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**Johnn** · 05-15-2008, 03:25 PM

Hang on..................

**Sterling** · 05-15-2008, 04:02 PM

Looks like we need to move our names from Godaddy to Enom. At least Enom will get them back for ya when something like that happens.

**sdsinc** · 05-15-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kamil

His name is M a r t i n - Z a n k i c h -- and he seems to be legit person to me as his paypal account was verified as well and the same name in paypal profile too, whois of domains didnt change in 2 months .... maybe he just made wrong purchase of these domains in wrong place and later resold You... he doesn't visit dnforum afaik so You can't be sure when he is gonna be online next time :(

Maybe the paypal account belongs to a legit person and was hacked.

**Johnn** · 05-15-2008, 04:07 PM

Hold on - Martin will be here soon...............

**kamil** · 05-15-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sdsinc

Maybe the paypal account belongs to a legit person and was hacked.

He is using verified paypal account with his real name in paypal profile (I belive), but the only bad thing with his account is this that its free mail account with Yahoo..

I have read a lot about it and know that scammers crack tons of yahoo accounts on daily basis by using account cracking tools and proxies.. so having yahoo account attached to paypal is an invitation to problems imo

dnforum administration should keep eyes on password recovery requests because if account got hacked then even verified member seals wont help imo

**Johnn** · 05-15-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rockey

No offense Acro...are you "Verified" in dnforum?

Please do not post non-related topic.

Thanks,

**zDomain** · 05-15-2008, 04:48 PM

My account was hacked and I have been working with John to get it back. I did not sell any domains and I have not been in the forum for a little bit. I also have not sold any domains on here before so If you see a thread with zDomain in the past few days it is fake.

**jdk** · 05-15-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zDomain

My account was hacked and I have been working with John to get it back. I did not sell any domains and I have not been in the forum for a little bit. I also have not sold any domains on here before so If you see a thread with zDomain in the past few days it is fake.

I hope they help clear your name. Johnn is great. I suggest finding the IP address that logged into your account before and having it banned from DnForum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockey

No offense Acro...are you "Verified" in dnforum?

Not with the seal, but look at his join date and Trader Rating. Well, established if you ask me.

**Johnn** · 05-15-2008, 05:07 PM

non-related topic posts deleted -

Do not try to post non-sense again or point/infraction will be given.

**slimpickins** · 05-15-2008, 05:25 PM

zdomain: yourdnf acount was hacked or your enom account?

are you also the owner of rgbs.com? that is one of the names i was scammed on that stain79 reports received payment to the same email as in his scam.... or is this a multiple-enom-account hack? sp

**zDomain** · 05-15-2008, 11:36 PM

It was my dnf account that he hacked into and I do not own rgbs.com

**stain79** · 05-16-2008, 07:38 AM

thanks to all for your help so far.
looks like there's nothing i can do.
but i have one more question.
since i'm from germany i don't know the US law.

BUT - if i buy a domain and the "owner" pushes the domain to my enom account, then theoretically i'm the new owner - and i'm sure that it is my domain, so that i can pay the seller.
now after over 1 day enom takes MY new domain and gives it back to the old owner.
is that legit? either enom would have to make it up to the old one who lost the stolen domain, or enom has to make it up to me, since i OWNED the domains.

why should i trust that registrar any longer, if he can simply go into my account and remove domains out of it?

could somebody explain that to me?

thanks,
jens

**malmar2** · 05-16-2008, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stain79

BUT - if i buy a domain and the "owner" pushes the domain to my enom account, then theoretically i'm the new owner - and i'm sure that it is my domain, so that i can pay the seller.
now after over 1 day enom takes MY new domain and gives it back to the old owner.
is that legit? either enom would have to make it up to the old one who lost the stolen domain, or enom has to make it up to me, since i OWNED the domains.

why should i trust that registrar any longer, if he can simply go into my account and remove domains out of it?

could somebody explain that to me?

thanks,
jens

What's to explain? stolen is stolen.

eNom acted correctly on behalf of the real owner and got his domain back. Wouldn't you want that to happen if your domains were stolen?

**damage** · 05-16-2008, 11:04 AM

Has the guy contacted the Mods yet? This a clear case (as per Enom's notification) and that the guy should be banned.

**BELLC1** · 05-16-2008, 12:00 PM

I'm in a similar position. One of my domains disappeared out of my account. Enom swears I pushed it to someone else. Nope. Not a chance. They won't respond anymore.

**domaingenius** · 05-16-2008, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stain79

thanks to all for your help so far.
looks like there's nothing i can do.
but i have one more question.
since i'm from germany i don't know the US law.

BUT - if i buy a domain and the "owner" pushes the domain to my enom account, then theoretically i'm the new owner - and i'm sure that it is my domain, so that i can pay the seller.
now after over 1 day enom takes MY new domain and gives it back to the old owner.
is that legit? either enom would have to make it up to the old one who lost the stolen domain, or enom has to make it up to me, since i OWNED the domains.

why should i trust that registrar any longer, if he can simply go into my account and remove domains out of it?

could somebody explain that to me?

thanks,
jens

As a longshot, you could try emailing the Financial Services Authority (FSA) in the UK who are the body that oversees all financial companies such as Moneybookers .There are some very strict rules set by FSA and maybe, just maybe, you could do something with them as regards the receiver of the money ?.

DG

**Jonathan** · 05-16-2008, 12:04 PM

Wow, that's terrible. Aren't you supposed to get an email when a push happens at Enom?

**krossat** · 05-16-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zDomain

It was my dnf account that he hacked into and I do not own rgbs.com

Do u own ELO.net and GAP.net; coz someones been negotiating with me over the pm on these names from your account; proposing the payment mode to be either escrow or money bookers (preferred as mentioned)

When i went ahead and checked they both belong to the same guy, and the pages come up with some goverment affiliated company doing paperwork / ecom for clients with the govt?

If it wasnt you, this thread saved me some serious $$$

**stain79** · 05-17-2008, 05:02 AM

sure stolen is stolen. and good for the real owner that he got his domains back.

but i BOUGHT those domains, and enom pushed them into my account. do i have to wait some weeks to make sure that i really own the domains?! don't think that would work.
and that's why i'm thinking that enom should make something up to me imo.

**malmar2** · 05-17-2008, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by stain79

and that's why i'm thinking that enom should make something up to me imo.

I'm sure eNom sympathize with your situation, but they didn't sell you the domain.

eNom are providing an administrative platform for account holders to manage their domains, not an escrow service.

Clearly eNom are going to have a system for recovering domains pushed to the wrong account - they must get pushes to the wrong account all the time.