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crabby · 10-29-2002, 05:22 PM

RNC is an acronym for many things, including Republican National Committee. So look who owns RNC04.com:

Organization:
Democratic National Committee
DNC Webmaster
430 S Capitol St SE
Washington, DC 20003
US
Phone: 202-863-8000
Email: webmaster@democrats.org

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: rnc04.com

Perhaps the experts here can tell me if this is cybersquatting. Thanks for your opinions.

**James Names** · 10-29-2002, 05:41 PM

Pretty clear case of cybersquatting when you register a competator's mark. Did you find this one? Has the media caught wind of this yet? They'll have a field day.

crabby · 10-29-2002, 05:46 PM

Yes, I found that example. It's another reminder that laws are legislated for different classes of citizens, rather than all citizens.

**HOWARD** · 10-30-2002, 08:47 AM

Hey! It COULD stand for REGISTER NEW CITIZENS IN 2004! or REELECT NICE CONGRESSMEN!

Banned: bidawinner · 10-30-2002, 09:45 AM

What am I missing ..I see no cybersquatting, I see no trademarks, I see no websites..

If it was RNC.com well then yeah..nobody is typing in rnc04..big deal..

This is the type of thing if I was a Judge/Panelist..get that trivial nonsense out out here.

Although it would be interesting and amusing to see all the names the Dems and Republicans have registered..

I sold ProDemocrat.com and ProRepublican.com a couple years ago.. I see they are for sale at another speculartors site today..

crabby · 10-30-2002, 10:25 AM

So if IBM registered apple04.com, and just sat on it, Apple wouldn't win a UDRP?

**dtobias** · 10-30-2002, 12:12 PM

The Republican and Democratic national committees should properly be in .org domains anyway, since they're noncommercial organizations. (The Libertarian Party gets this right; its site is at lp.org.)

10-30-2002, 12:26 PM

.com is where it's at, so why shouldn't a non-profit organization have a .com domain?

**James Names** · 10-30-2002, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bidawinner
What am I missing ..I see no cybersquatting, I see no trademarks, I see no websites..

If it was RNC.com well then yeah..nobody is typing in rnc04..big deal..

You must be a Democrat? :razz: The Replublican National Committee uses RNC.ORG as their website address.

Banned: bidawinner · 10-30-2002, 02:21 PM

Democrat..actually as much as they let you I try not to vote straight tickets...

You do that you end up with views that border on religiously radical..right or left.. I prefer the middle where I can give them hell

Banned: bidawinner · 10-30-2002, 02:26 PM

that should of course be BOTH hell ..

5 points for every typo , missing words, and the rest of more horribly lazy attempt at my native language, english !

some ones going to get dnf rich !

disclaimer: I may at any time claim my version of english as the official version of english

10-30-2002, 03:54 PM

The "04" obviously refers to 2004.

Probably the stupidest name more than 10 characters I ever reg'd was "CourtAppointedPresident.com" the day after Bush was elected. (I'm an independent, but a spade is a spade.) I tried to interest Democrats.com in the name for a parody site, they politely turned me down. The name expired a quiet death.

RacerX · 10-30-2002, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silverwire
The "04" obviously refers to 2004.

Probably the stupidest name more than 10 characters I ever reg'd was "CourtAppointedPresident.com" the day after Bush was elected. (I'm an independent, but a spade is a spade.) I tried to interest Democrats.com in the name for a parody site, they politely turned me down. The name expired a quiet death.

The accurate domain to register would have been something like:

BushwontheFloridavotecountby400+votesrecountafterr ecoutn-anddespiteChicagolandDaleyvoterigging-anddespiteDemocractictotalineptitude-flusteredbyasimpleballot.com

**dtobias** · 10-30-2002, 10:31 PM

Why shouldn't a nonprofit have a .com domain? Because it screams "We're a bunch of morons who don't even know the correct TLD for noncommercial sites!", that's why.

**dtobias** · 10-30-2002, 10:33 PM

I constantly feel like throwing a brick through my TV every time they advertise a noncommercial site with a .com domain... fortunately, I manage to restrain myself because TVs are expensive.

10-31-2002, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dtobias
Why shouldn't a nonprofit have a .com domain? Because it screams "We're a bunch of morons who don't even know the correct TLD for noncommercial sites!", that's why.

Although I agree you are correct that non-profits should be using .org, the problem is not really so much that we're a bunch of morons as much as most users have little or no understanding of the difference. Dot com is simply the most recognized and credible brand name, and it may be foolish to use the .org if you don't also own the .com. So, best to use .org and redierct the .com to it.

btw, Dan, I do like your site, but you should either lose the pink or add some flowers

Quote:

Originally posted by RacerX

The accurate domain to register would have been something like:

BushwontheFloridavotecountby400+votesrecountafterr ecoutn-anddespiteChicagolandDaleyvoterigging-anddespiteDemocractictotalineptitude-flusteredbyasimpleballot.com

lol, i'm not gonna ask what the metatags would look like.

**Wolf** · 10-31-2002, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dtobias
I constantly feel like throwing a brick through my TV every time they advertise a noncommercial site with a .com domain... fortunately, I manage to restrain myself because TVs are expensive.

Plus you can never find a brick when you need one.

10-31-2002, 07:00 AM

There is no such thing as a "correct TLD". There are just bad TLDs, not so great TLDs, good TLD's, and .com. Any organization who uses .org without bothering with the .com (if it is available to them) is not a very sophisticated organization and is just allowing someone else the opportunity to buy the .com domain to capitalize on their .org site.

Fact is people tend to type in .com when they type in a url.

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"Why shouldn't a nonprofit have a .com domain? Because it screams "We're a bunch of morons who don't even know the correct TLD for noncommercial sites!", that's why."

10-29-2002, 05:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
crabby Registered User - Must Upgrade To Post Last Online: 08-10-2003 09:34 AM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 88 DNF$: 329 Location: Los Angeles	Is This Cybersquatting? RNC is an acronym for many things, including Republican National Committee. So look who owns RNC04.com: Organization: Democratic National Committee DNC Webmaster 430 S Capitol St SE Washington, DC 20003 US Phone: 202-863-8000 Email: webmaster@democrats.org Registrar Name....: Register.com Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com Domain Name: rnc04.com Perhaps the experts here can tell me if this is cybersquatting. Thanks for your opinions.

10-30-2002, 08:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
HOWARD Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 12-01-2005 11:02 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 224 DNF$: 1,216 Location: Davie, Fl	Hey! It COULD stand for REGISTER NEW CITIZENS IN 2004! or REELECT NICE CONGRESSMEN! __________________ Howard Neu, Esq.

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Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,155 Location: MN Country:	What am I missing ..I see no cybersquatting, I see no trademarks, I see no websites.. If it was RNC.com well then yeah..nobody is typing in rnc04..big deal.. This is the type of thing if I was a Judge/Panelist..get that trivial nonsense out out here. Although it would be interesting and amusing to see all the names the Dems and Republicans have registered.. I sold ProDemocrat.com and ProRepublican.com a couple years ago.. I see they are for sale at another speculartors site today..

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dtobias Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-13-2009 03:36 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 590 DNF$: 105 Location: Boca Raton, FL	The Republican and Democratic national committees should properly be in .org domains anyway, since they're noncommercial organizations. (The Libertarian Party gets this right; its site is at lp.org.)

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domainquestion Guest Last Online: 12-31-1969 07:00 PM Posts: n/a DNF$: 0 [Check]	.com is where it's at, so why shouldn't a non-profit organization have a .com domain?

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Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,155 Location: MN Country:	Democrat..actually as much as they let you I try not to vote straight tickets... You do that you end up with views that border on religiously radical..right or left.. I prefer the middle where I can give them hell

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Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,155 Location: MN Country:	that should of course be BOTH hell .. 5 points for every typo , missing words, and the rest of more horribly lazy attempt at my native language, english ! some ones going to get dnf rich ! disclaimer: I may at any time claim my version of english as the official version of english

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Silverwire Guest Last Online: 12-31-1969 07:00 PM Posts: n/a DNF$: 0 [Check]	The "04" obviously refers to 2004. Probably the stupidest name more than 10 characters I ever reg'd was "CourtAppointedPresident.com" the day after Bush was elected. (I'm an independent, but a spade is a spade.) I tried to interest Democrats.com in the name for a parody site, they politely turned me down. The name expired a quiet death.

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dtobias Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-13-2009 03:36 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 590 DNF$: 105 Location: Boca Raton, FL	I constantly feel like throwing a brick through my TV every time they advertise a noncommercial site with a .com domain... fortunately, I manage to restrain myself because TVs are expensive.

10-31-2002, 07:00 AM	#18 (permalink)
domainquestion Guest Last Online: 12-31-1969 07:00 PM Posts: n/a DNF$: 0 [Check]	There is no such thing as a "correct TLD". There are just bad TLDs, not so great TLDs, good TLD's, and .com. Any organization who uses .org without bothering with the .com (if it is available to them) is not a very sophisticated organization and is just allowing someone else the opportunity to buy the .com domain to capitalize on their .org site. Fact is people tend to type in .com when they type in a url. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Why shouldn't a nonprofit have a .com domain? Because it screams "We're a bunch of morons who don't even know the correct TLD for noncommercial sites!", that's why."