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**Domagon** · 04-18-2008, 09:31 PM

Something is very wrong all around...

FTC.net is listed as registered to the Federal Trade Commission, and even redirects there.

BUT the name servers are wrong - FTC.gov uses ns1 and ns2.ftc.gov for its nameservers, NOT ns1 and ns2.afraid.org

Afraid.org is a dynamic redirect service.

Most likely the whois change / redirection is simply a ruse to throw people off as to who really owns ftc.net ...

But another, more disturbing, possibility is FTC.net is redirecting as part of a planned phish scheme.

Ron

Banned: domain newbie · 04-18-2008, 09:56 PM

ftc.net whois info is faked, maybe even all purpose of this scam was to get hold all ftc.net ?

maybe even better idea to file a complain about ftc.net to ftc directly https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01

(identity theft)

**Credit** · 04-18-2008, 09:57 PM

Talked to him on aim yesterday regarding the purchase, he was very eager to sell the names. First said the auction ends in 12 hours, then 8, then he asked me what I was willing to pay, then sold them prematurely. Strange, indeed, seemed like a nice guy though.

Mr. Deleted · 04-18-2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

part of a planned phish scheme

Phishing? how would anyone phish the ftc? They seem more of a fraud prevention organization, and I see no use for such info for a scammer.

**Domagon** · 04-18-2008, 10:19 PM

I doubt they'd phish the FTC ... I would hope the FTC folks are smarter than that LOL!

But a more likely scenerio is using ftc.net in some manner to phish unsuspecting surfers who may believe ftc.net is truly the FTC website.

Most likely the ftc.net whois change / redirection is simply a ruse to confuse people as to who truly owns the domain, but the phish angle, while a longshot, is a possibility and is why I mentioned it.

Ron

**Restecpa** · 04-18-2008, 10:32 PM

I will say it again... Good old 2002.

Mr. Deleted · 04-18-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restecpa

I will say it again... Good old 2002.

what was that about?

**Restecpa** · 04-18-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Deleted

what was that about?

That's when I first joined dnforum... Nice times, really. Unlike today, there were hardly any scammers around. Lately though, it almost seems as if there are more scammers around than genuine members. Domain reselling industry has really turned rotten... Jup, good old 2002. We actually had fun back then... imagine that.

meganerd · 04-18-2008, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restecpa

That's when I first joined dnforum... ... Jup, good old 2002.

Are you sure?

check your join date

**Restecpa** · 04-19-2008, 12:04 AM

Yes, I'm sure.

Once forum changed hands and they introduced "paid subscriptions", I decided to create a new account. Before 2003, this forum was actually "free". I've been around for some 6 years now...

**FuseFX** · 04-19-2008, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichInCollege

Strange, indeed, seemed like a nice guy though.

Scammers are ALWAYS pretty slick at gaining confidence and looking like "nice guys". That's a pre-requisite to scam people!

**draggar** · 04-19-2008, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Restecpa

up, good old 2002. We actually had fun back then... imagine that.

I'll go back to the internet back in the early to mid 90s when you could post personal information (name, address, phone number) and the only people who would take it and use it were the people who it was intended for.

I miss telnetting to sites, MUDs, using Gopher and the (original) UseNet (I think that's what it was called) and PINE for email.

**south** · 04-19-2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar

I'll go back to the internet back in the early to mid 90s when you could post personal information (name, address, phone number) and the only people who would take it and use it were the people who it was intended for.

I miss telnetting to sites, MUDs, using Gopher and the (original) UseNet (I think that's what it was called) and PINE for email.

Yup, I ran a BBS back in the 90's. Learned more about computers during those few years than ever since.. And people got along well for the most part. Door games, downloads, messages, fun. - Good old fidonet.

pcproffenno · 04-19-2008, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by south

Yup, I ran a BBS back in the 90's. Learned more about computers during those few years than ever since.. And people got along well for the most part. Door games, downloads, messages, fun. - Good old fidonet.

I ran a BBS as well back in the 90's .. The golden era for sure .. Legend of the Red Dragon anyone?

**sdsinc** · 04-19-2008, 09:00 AM

I also have the feeling there are more scammers here. Already a few have been busted and we are still early into 2008.

**south** · 04-19-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcproffenno

I ran a BBS as well back in the 90's .. The golden era for sure .. Legend of the Red Dragon anyone?

Yes... LORD! Was really addicted to BRE though

Take a look here http://bbslist.textfiles.com/305/

The Glass House was me.. wow, that was a long time ago.. miss it!

**draggar** · 04-19-2008, 10:18 AM

AH, the safest days of the net, BBSs. Never saw Red Dragon but we had "Yankee Trader", "Kannons and Katapults", and many Dope Wars clones (Cartel, anyone?). ANd dialing for ever just to get on (sounds like AOL?). Cool SysOps, SigOps, etc..

If you told them your check was in the mail for a paid subscription, they upgraded you right there since it was trustworthy enough (plus they could kill your account).

Of course, there was one SysOp that no one liked so we continually hacked his BBS, even most hackers were honorable back then.

Back on topic, stuff like this will continually happen. The community might be able to cut it down a little with vigilance and close monitoring but in the long run scams will always be there. I wonder how many people this year will send money to Nigerian royalty?

meganerd · 04-19-2008, 11:22 AM

So in other words, only knowledgeable people with sense and brains were online back then. Man, I wish I was around! Wait....I think I just made a funny on myself.

I was too worried about boys and skipping school in the 90's. Too bad. But I can look back to today and say "Remember the good ole days when you only got 100 spam mails in your inbox, when bandwidth wasn't throttled and when you could have information in your whois without waking up murdered the next day?"

Banned: ernestjev · 04-19-2008, 11:54 AM

pcproffenno · 04-19-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by south

Yes... LORD! Was really addicted to BRE though

Take a look here http://bbslist.textfiles.com/305/

The Glass House was me.. wow, that was a long time ago.. miss it!

Haha definitely ..

I ran a System/x scene-bbs in Norway. Focusing on the demo/art-scene. It was good times hehe..

04-18-2008, 09:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
Domagon DNF Addict Name: Ron Bennett Last Online: 07-14-2009 02:31 PM iTrader: (26) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,372 DNF$: 7,978 Location: Wyomissing, PA Country:	Something is very wrong all around... FTC.net is listed as registered to the Federal Trade Commission, and even redirects there. BUT the name servers are wrong - FTC.gov uses ns1 and ns2.ftc.gov for its nameservers, NOT ns1 and ns2.afraid.org Afraid.org is a dynamic redirect service. Most likely the whois change / redirection is simply a ruse to throw people off as to who really owns ftc.net ... But another, more disturbing, possibility is FTC.net is redirecting as part of a planned phish scheme. Ron __________________ Domagon Consulting Services - Business Help and Problem Solving SeedCash.com - sow those economic green shoots. Make An Offer!

04-18-2008, 09:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
Credit Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 07:37 PM iTrader: (95) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,869 DNF$: 1 Location: Chicago Country:	Talked to him on aim yesterday regarding the purchase, he was very eager to sell the names. First said the auction ends in 12 hours, then 8, then he asked me what I was willing to pay, then sold them prematurely. Strange, indeed, seemed like a nice guy though. __________________ New York Work

04-18-2008, 10:19 PM	#25 (permalink)
Domagon DNF Addict Name: Ron Bennett Last Online: 07-14-2009 02:31 PM iTrader: (26) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,372 DNF$: 7,978 Location: Wyomissing, PA Country:	I doubt they'd phish the FTC ... I would hope the FTC folks are smarter than that LOL! But a more likely scenerio is using ftc.net in some manner to phish unsuspecting surfers who may believe ftc.net is truly the FTC website. Most likely the ftc.net whois change / redirection is simply a ruse to confuse people as to who truly owns the domain, but the phish angle, while a longshot, is a possibility and is why I mentioned it. Ron __________________ Domagon Consulting Services - Business Help and Problem Solving SeedCash.com - sow those economic green shoots. Make An Offer!

04-18-2008, 10:32 PM	#26 (permalink)
Restecpa Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Z Last Online: 04-22-2009 02:40 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 539 DNF$: 26 Location: EU	I will say it again... Good old 2002. __________________ \|\|\| TraceRT \|\|\| \|\|\| Fitness Community \|\|\|

04-19-2008, 12:04 AM	#30 (permalink)
Restecpa Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Z Last Online: 04-22-2009 02:40 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 539 DNF$: 26 Location: EU	Yes, I'm sure. Once forum changed hands and they introduced "paid subscriptions", I decided to create a new account. Before 2003, this forum was actually "free". I've been around for some 6 years now... __________________ \|\|\| TraceRT \|\|\| \|\|\| Fitness Community \|\|\|

04-18-2008, 09:56 PM	#22 (permalink)
Banned: domain newbie Account Terminated Last Online: 06-19-2008 12:08 PM iTrader: (22) Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,891 DNF$: 12,670 Location: my home is where my bank account is Country:	ftc.net whois info is faked, maybe even all purpose of this scam was to get hold all ftc.net ? maybe even better idea to file a complain about ftc.net to ftc directly https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01 (identity theft)

04-19-2008, 09:00 AM	#35 (permalink)
sdsinc Missing in action Name: Kate Last Online: Today 06:42 PM iTrader: (41) Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,667 DNF$: 28,093 Location: .cz Country:	I also have the feeling there are more scammers here. Already a few have been busted and we are still early into 2008. __________________ VeryOldNames.com

04-19-2008, 10:18 AM	#37 (permalink)
draggar The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Today 07:25 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,329 DNF$: 311 Location: South Florida Country:	AH, the safest days of the net, BBSs. Never saw Red Dragon but we had "Yankee Trader", "Kannons and Katapults", and many Dope Wars clones (Cartel, anyone?). ANd dialing for ever just to get on (sounds like AOL?). Cool SysOps, SigOps, etc.. If you told them your check was in the mail for a paid subscription, they upgraded you right there since it was trustworthy enough (plus they could kill your account). Of course, there was one SysOp that no one liked so we continually hacked his BBS, even most hackers were honorable back then. Back on topic, stuff like this will continually happen. The community might be able to cut it down a little with vigilance and close monitoring but in the long run scams will always be there. I wonder how many people this year will send money to Nigerian royalty? __________________ Get a Parked.com account today! What's on Draggar's mind? Find out at http://www.draggar.net I'm always looking for dog breed domains Last edited by draggar; 04-19-2008 at 10:19 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-19-2008, 11:22 AM	#38 (permalink)
meganerd Name: Tia Wood Last Online: Today 07:19 PM iTrader: (75) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,608 DNF$: 210 Location: Missouri Country:	So in other words, only knowledgeable people with sense and brains were online back then. Man, I wish I was around! Wait....I think I just made a funny on myself. I was too worried about boys and skipping school in the 90's. Too bad. But I can look back to today and say "Remember the good ole days when you only got 100 spam mails in your inbox, when bandwidth wasn't throttled and when you could have information in your whois without waking up murdered the next day?" __________________ MY BLOG \| Parking & PPC Alternative Graphic Designer & Web Developer, yes. But overall, I am an artist. Give me a mouse and I'll show you art.

04-19-2008, 11:54 AM	#39 (permalink)
Banned: ernestjev Account Terminated Last Online: 11-03-2008 08:30 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 115 DNF$: 4,544 Location: Lithuania Country:	wow

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