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| Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-26-2009 09:11 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002
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DNF$: 524 Location: Australia | !!! Was the domain I bought stolen property ??? !!! I just recieved the following email which seems to be from Enom. I paid a reasonable sum, for the quality name in question, earlier this year. I have records of the whois previous to my ownership. What should I do? How can I show that I am lawfully entitled to be the owner of the name? Thanks to anyone who can help! We have received credible information that the domain name listed in the subject of this email was transferred to eNom and/or that the WHOIS information for this domain name was altered, all as part of a scheme to illegally assume control of the domain name. I will transfer this domain back to the claimant by the end of the day on August 21, 2003, unless you contact me before then and make a reasonable demonstration that you are lawfully entitled to be listed as the registrant for this domain name. Please be aware that any communication by you in response to this email will not be confidential and may be shared with the claimant. Regards, Martin Garthwaite General Counsel eNom, Incorporated 16771 NE 80th Street, Ste. #100 Redmond, WA 98052 425-883-8860 ext. 270 ![]() |
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| Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 08:15 PM iTrader: (25) Join Date: Feb 2003
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DNF$: 174 Location: New Jersey | Just send them proof of payment
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| Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-26-2009 09:11 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002
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DNF$: 524 Location: Australia | Quote:
I bought the name through Escrow.com. Will this help me at all? | |
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| Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002
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DNF$: 8,166 Location: MN
Country: | This is a prime example of why anyone should be able to review past owners of domains, and why every domain name that does not have correct account information..as in a legal person or business complete with name , address and phone. All others should be deleted.. Before others in chime in..I could care less that you "wish" to remain private.. go crawl in a hole then.. Domain names are of public record and those records should be accurate |
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| Last Online: Today 02:21 PM iTrader: (87) Join Date: Mar 2003
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DNF$: 6,593 Location: Washington,DC | Bid, I agree with you. I wish there was an efficient service that offered the info. Just like you could get to trace ownership of a piece of land or a car. I know Western Law and a couple others offer a service. But, it is expensive. Or, incomplete. I often wonder why someone in this industy hasn't jumped on this opportunity. |
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| Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-26-2009 09:11 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002
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DNF$: 524 Location: Australia | I've been advised by snoopy (at Domain State DOT com) to check http://openaccess.dialog.com/ip/ and alexa.com for "whowas" type information. I'll also be getting in touch with a laywer today. I'll keep this thread updated in the hopes that the info may assist other domain developers in avoiding such situations. |
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| Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 04:20 PM iTrader: (12) Join Date: Mar 2003
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DNF$: 1,808 Location: White Rock, BC
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Just becuase you bought stolen property does not meen you are off the hook. If it was truthfuly stolen, it should get returned to the person it was stolen from. But I hope enom is smarting than those idiots who dont renew a domain name and than claim it was stolen/hijacked. Keep Us Posted. | |
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| Cool Member | "..unless you contact me before then and make a reasonable demonstration that you are lawfully entitled to be listed as the registrant for this domain name." What kind of BS is that ?! Like, i always thought it was innocent til proven guilty, not the other way around ? What if you would happen to not have stored any documentation about that name - that would give enom the right to take your name away ? Very strange understanding of the law on enom's side in my view. I even think if they would indeed take the name away without any court order, you then could sue them and would have a good chance in court. |
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DNF$: 52 Location: Boston, MA | Quote:
I hope you can avoid this, Manic. Hopefully someone didn't sell you stolen goods. Even in the real world, "I didn't know" doesn't really cut it unfortunately. Caveat Emptor. Quote:
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| Philadelphia Lawyer | "I even think if they would indeed take the name away without any court order, you then could sue them and would have a good chance in court." If anyone seriously believes that the registration contract is not written to give the registrar broad discretion to handle situations like this, they are kidding themselves. I have not read Enom's service contract, nor have I looked closely at the section posted above. But the probability of them entering into a suicide pact each time they register a domain name when there may be another party claiming fraud or illegality, is about nil. "Enom or any prudent registrar is no different in protecting themselves against retribution for what they may need to do." ...absolutely. And it would be surprising if they have not.
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| Last Online: Today 07:02 PM iTrader: (86) Join Date: Aug 2003
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DNF$: 3,142 Location: San Diego, CA
Country: | I think I posted this on another forum, but I'll say it here too... I've had to deal with Martin (eNom's legal council) recently, and found him to be very fair and reasonable. Wait a minute... maybe we should check his background, he CAN'T be a lawyer! Ironicly, I hired Steve Cohen in 1988 to write a use contract for my BBS. You probably know of Steve Cohen... he was later jailed for 5 years for practicing law without a license, but REALLY became famous we he forged a letter to NetSol to gain control of sex.com, then skipped to Mexico with several million $ when they came to collect. - Dale |
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