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**TriDomains** · 07-09-2008, 03:47 PM

I recently sold a domain through a third party and a week later they reversed the paypal payment. I emailed undo@godaddy.com and they said there was nothing they could do. There is a process they emailed me a link for http://www.icann.org/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm but those services cost thousands of dollars.

Is there a way to get my domain back?

**draggar** · 07-09-2008, 03:49 PM

File a complaint with your registrar (where you had the domain). You might be able to get it back that way (MIGHT).

**Acro** · 07-09-2008, 03:49 PM

Was it a TDNAM sale?

**TriDomains** · 07-09-2008, 03:57 PM

It was not a TDNAM sale and GoDaddy said this:

Dear Richard,

Thank you for your email. It appears you entered into a third party agreement regarding the domain name and initiated the account change. As such, we are not able to become involved in this dispute.

Any further dispute over the ownership of the domain name will need to be sent either to the registrant, through an ICANN-approved arbitration provider (http://www.icann.org/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm) or the court system. Please be assured that if we receive notice of a pending legal dispute we will lock the name so that it cannot be transferred or otherwise modified. Likewise, when we receive a decision we will update the name accordingly. If you file a dispute concerning the domain, please forward a copy to domaindisputes@godaddy.com.

If you find that you are unable to contact the registrant because information in the Whois database is invalid, such as containing a disconnected telephone number or an undeliverable mailing address, please send a detailed email to invalidwhois@godaddy.com. At that time we may attempt to contact our customer and request that they update the information.

Thank you,

Undo Department

**Acro** · 07-09-2008, 04:20 PM

PM Adam he might be able to iron things out.

**NicholasN** · 07-09-2008, 05:00 PM

Domain Transactions and Paypal:

Sending payments through paypal is like stashing cash in an envelope, sending it to Nigeria and waiting for the guy to transfer the domain to you after he receives it.

Receiving a payment from paypal is like accepting a check in the mail from the Nigerian guy, transferring the domain to him and then depositing the check.

Why will anyone do the above is beyond my comprehension. escrow.com instead, well worth the fees.

**TriDomains** · 07-09-2008, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicholasN

Domain Transactions and Paypal:

Sending payments through paypal is like stashing cash in an envelope, sending it to Nigeria and waiting for the guy to transfer the domain to you after he receives it.

Receiving a payment from paypal is like accepting a check in the mail from the Nigerian guy, transferring the domain to him and then depositing the check.

Why will anyone do the above is beyond my comprehension. escrow.com instead, well worth the fees.

I never learn my lesson. It's just so damned easy. I had a bad feeling about this one too

I need to listen to my gut more often.

**draggar** · 07-09-2008, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NicholasN

Why will anyone do the above is beyond my comprehension. escrow.com instead, well worth the fees.

$50 minimum is a killer especially for lower-valued domains. If I sell a domain for $100, I don't want to lose half of that for fees.

**TriDomains** · 07-09-2008, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar

$50 minimum is a killer especially for lower-valued domains. If I sell a domain for $100, I don't want to lose half of that for fees.

For sure.

**draggar** · 07-09-2008, 05:29 PM

Unfortunately there is no 100% secure option for lower-end domains.

You can go though Sedo, but you'll have to park it and it is only a 10% fee (or else it's a $50 minimum also) but can be messy and a bit of work if you're selling a site, plus I don't know how long a domain needs to be parked at Sedo before you get the 10% fee).

Paypal is very unsecure but good if you trust who you're dealing with.

Escrow.com is very secure but expensive and not worth while for domains under $1,000

Not sure about other means but I'd love to see an escrow service that is as secure as Escrow.com but has a fee structure like Paypal.

**TriDomains** · 07-09-2008, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar

...but I'd love to see an escrow service that is as secure as Escrow.com but has a fee structure like Paypal.

Said the future billionaire.

07-09-2008, 03:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
TriDomains Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Richard Last Online: 07-09-2008 06:07 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21 DNF$: 11 Location: USA Country:	Domain Payment Reversal I recently sold a domain through a third party and a week later they reversed the paypal payment. I emailed undo@godaddy.com and they said there was nothing they could do. There is a process they emailed me a link for http://www.icann.org/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm but those services cost thousands of dollars. Is there a way to get my domain back?

07-09-2008, 03:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
draggar The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Today 12:47 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,349 DNF$: 506 Location: South Florida Country:	File a complaint with your registrar (where you had the domain). You might be able to get it back that way (MIGHT). __________________ Get a Parked.com account today! What's on Draggar's mind? Find out at http://www.draggar.net I'm always looking for dog breed domains

07-09-2008, 03:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
Acro Bloody lovely Last Online: 11-21-2009 08:07 PM iTrader: (394) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 23,903 DNF$: 4,071 Location: USA Country:	Was it a TDNAM sale? __________________ DomainGang.com - Domainers' Most Awesome News Source Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog My Countdown Counting down to: Snapnames rebate hitting my mailbox 79 days 11 hours 8 minutes

07-09-2008, 03:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
TriDomains Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Richard Last Online: 07-09-2008 06:07 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21 DNF$: 11 Location: USA Country:	It was not a TDNAM sale and GoDaddy said this: Dear Richard, Thank you for your email. It appears you entered into a third party agreement regarding the domain name and initiated the account change. As such, we are not able to become involved in this dispute. Any further dispute over the ownership of the domain name will need to be sent either to the registrant, through an ICANN-approved arbitration provider (http://www.icann.org/dndr/udrp/approved-providers.htm) or the court system. Please be assured that if we receive notice of a pending legal dispute we will lock the name so that it cannot be transferred or otherwise modified. Likewise, when we receive a decision we will update the name accordingly. If you file a dispute concerning the domain, please forward a copy to domaindisputes@godaddy.com. If you find that you are unable to contact the registrant because information in the Whois database is invalid, such as containing a disconnected telephone number or an undeliverable mailing address, please send a detailed email to invalidwhois@godaddy.com. At that time we may attempt to contact our customer and request that they update the information. Thank you, Undo Department __________________ My Portfolio: TriDomains.com - Goo.cc - GreatMPEG.com Totally Reliable Internet Hosting Coupon "first100" gets 50% off first billing cycle.

07-09-2008, 04:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Acro Bloody lovely Last Online: 11-21-2009 08:07 PM iTrader: (394) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 23,903 DNF$: 4,071 Location: USA Country:	PM Adam he might be able to iron things out. __________________ DomainGang.com - Domainers' Most Awesome News Source Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog My Countdown Counting down to: Snapnames rebate hitting my mailbox 79 days 11 hours 8 minutes

07-09-2008, 05:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
NicholasN Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 09-15-2009 03:32 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 36 DNF$: 49 Location: Miami Country:	Domain Transactions and Paypal: Sending payments through paypal is like stashing cash in an envelope, sending it to Nigeria and waiting for the guy to transfer the domain to you after he receives it. Receiving a payment from paypal is like accepting a check in the mail from the Nigerian guy, transferring the domain to him and then depositing the check. Why will anyone do the above is beyond my comprehension. escrow.com instead, well worth the fees.

07-09-2008, 05:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
draggar The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Today 12:47 PM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,349 DNF$: 506 Location: South Florida Country:	Unfortunately there is no 100% secure option for lower-end domains. You can go though Sedo, but you'll have to park it and it is only a 10% fee (or else it's a $50 minimum also) but can be messy and a bit of work if you're selling a site, plus I don't know how long a domain needs to be parked at Sedo before you get the 10% fee). Paypal is very unsecure but good if you trust who you're dealing with. Escrow.com is very secure but expensive and not worth while for domains under $1,000 Not sure about other means but I'd love to see an escrow service that is as secure as Escrow.com but has a fee structure like Paypal. __________________ Get a Parked.com account today! What's on Draggar's mind? Find out at http://www.draggar.net I'm always looking for dog breed domains

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