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Old 06-30-2004, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

Continue from the previuos thread.

Keyworddomains, how do you now about the traffic?

What is the quickest way to get the domain back? It's a big issue right now.

More info, the domain was registered with Register.com. The company called Register and they said "nothing they can do". They called godaddy where the domain was fraudulently transfered to, they said they can't do anything without court order.

Need advice to get the domain back and track the theif down. thank you.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

Hi,

This is not a problem, and thread will not be closed, discussing stolen domains helps everyone, however, if you have any Sedo related issues, please deal with Sedo directly regarding this issue!

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Continue from the previuos thread.

Keyworddomains, how do you now about the traffic?

What is the quickest way to get the domain back? It's a big issue right now.

More info, the domain was registered with Register.com. The company called Register and they said "nothing they can do". They called godaddy where the domain was fraudulently transfered to, they said they can't do anything without court order.

Need advice to get the domain back and track the theif down. thank you.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

I understand, that's why this thread removed Sedo and didn't put the link to the previous thread.. thanks.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

Thank you!

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I understand, that's why this thread removed Sedo and didn't put the link to the previous thread.. thanks.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

Did it expire? Do you have proof through a whois record from June 18, 2004 that shows the domain name was not mistakenly expiring? I have heard of former owners accusing drop catchers of "stealing" the name.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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whois registration date in 2001, expired in 2006.
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Old 06-30-2004, 02:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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whois registration date in 2001, expired in 2006.
That's not what I asked, activating PM module...
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Old 06-30-2004, 02:23 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

Register.com confirmed it was transfered out. He doesn't have IP of the person who transfer domain out. Probably GoDaddy has it.
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Old 06-30-2004, 02:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Could Register.com be held responsibility for the fraud? Remember sex.com case that the court asked to hold Network Solutions responsible for mismanaging the dispute.
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Old 06-30-2004, 02:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

stop trying to find people to sue and get the name back...
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Old 06-30-2004, 02:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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stop trying to find people to sue and get the name back...
If you don't go after them, how would they be more helpful? If you don't go after afternic like Indiana.com's case, will Afternic take care of the issue?

Or are you saying that I should just get the name back and let the theif continue stealing other people's domain for a living?
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Old 06-30-2004, 03:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Domain Stolen is not yet sorted out, please don't close the thread

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If you don't go after them, how would they be more helpful? If you don't go after afternic like Indiana.com's case, will Afternic take care of the issue?
Or are you saying that I should just get the name back and let the theif continue stealing other people's domain for a living?
We have communicated via PM, and it seems you are making some progress.

Along the lines of GTs post, your newspaper client might be better served if you shuffled your prioirites to :
1. Get the domain name back.
2. Catch the thief for this crime
3. Stop this thief for all time.
4. Find the guilty parties who allowed the transfer and get restitution for the "$10,000/day loss".
5. Find any PPC vendor who might have made a nickel for a few days and get that money back.

You started the last thread at number five when you went after the PPC vendor, which IMHO is the least of priorities and the last place I'd start. You're asking for assistance and guidance, that is what we offer, suggestions.

Not legal advice, suggestions on actions to take.
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Old 06-30-2004, 03:04 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Thanks boca and all. I appreciated your comment. The register.com is investigating in this matter right now.
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I sent an email to a contact at GoDaddy regarding the name, so hopefully they can help expedite matters.
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Old 06-30-2004, 03:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I thought you said this domain belonged to a BIG newspaper company in Asia? I wonder where their attorneys and technology people are? Aren't THEY supposed to be PAID to do this instead of you? Or are you and your partner representing them (as they are your client)? Just curious.
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Domain selling is not a business in that country. Believe it or not, they don't know about domain reselling or domain stealing matter. Their techicians have absolutely no idea what to do. My friend works for the company as a news reporter in the U.S. who also doesn't familiar with this matter. So, we're now representing them to get back the domain.

GeorgeK, do you have a good contact with GoDaddy?
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.biz: your PM box is full. Email me directly at:

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george, email sent. pm box cleared.

i'm leaving for a meeting in 10 mins. and will be back at night.
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GeorgeK, while you are at it, see if you can compare notes on similar Thai adventures.
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Thank you all for helping and advice. The company filed the case with local police and FBI.
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