Is it Fraud to claim you are going

[bidawinner]

to release reserved names on a certain day ..then a few days before drop they extend the time for another 30 days...this scam has been going on month after month after month after month.....

the reserved names are suppose to be for any "interested" government agency..they are using it as "sales pitch" to the Government agencies..


GOVERNMENT AGENCIES: REGISTER RESERVED .US NAMES NOW!
DEADLINE APRIL 30, 2003!
The United States Department of Commerce (DOC) and NeuStar invite your agency to register .US domain name(s) that were specifically reserved for federal, state and local government agencies several months ago. Click on the link below that best describes your agency, and follow the instructions for registering your reserved .US names.

Although the original deadlines for federal, state and local agencies to claim .US names have passed, NeuStar is currently offering a grace period until April 30, 2003 to accommodate government officials' requests and to work through logistical issues. Government agencies are urged to finalize their choice of .US names as soon as possible, as this grace period is of limited duration.


The same statement every month...they can reserve them for ever..I dont even care anymore..but just cut the deceptive sales pitch...


It's like the damn furniture store thats going out of buisiness ..but never does...

Anyway..I was under the impression that type of marketing was illegal ?

[bidawinner]

The same statement..they just change the date every month..

[Sharpy]

I agree bid. There seems to be a lot of things going on right now that many feel are illegal. It's a cruel world.

[Banned: timechange.com]

Which domains have they reserved?

[DaddyHalbucks]

This seems like just another reason to hate .US

[dtobias]

I refuse to hate any TLD just because the people who are currently running its registry are acting like jerks... if I did, I'd probably hate pretty near all TLDs. Verisign sucks, so you should hate .COM and .NET. Afilias sucks, so hate .INFO. Neulevel/Neustar sucks, so hate .BIZ and .US. I haven't really figured out yet whether the .ORG and .EDU registries suck.

[DNS Kidd]

That same statement has been there for over a year. What names are you thinking of?

The reserved names list has gone from version 1 to 2 to 3 at this point. Current list shows 52,053 reserved .us names.

[David G]

Originally posted by bidawinner .....It's like the damn furniture store thats going out of buisiness ..but never does...[/B]

Excellent example, I have seen that happen many times, one well known local furniture store here had a heavily marketed ficticious "going out of business sale" for 2-yrs. After 2-yrs they finally said this was it and they closed, but only for a week and remodeled and opened up again using the same name. This type fraud happens all the time both brick and mortar and online.

Did anyone ever wonder why the .us registry reserved zillions of city, county and even small town names nationwide but amazingly did not reserve several of the largest cities, such as CityOfPhoenix.us?

[DNS Kidd]

Phoenix is reserved under two names, one for Arizona, one for Oregon.

CITY OF PHOENIX AZ.US
CITY OF PHOENIX OR.US

Some good opportunities to grab some popular city names. These are not regged:

CITY OF BRIDGEPORT.US
CITY OF BURLINGTON.US
CITY OF CALIFORNIA.US
CITY OF CAMBRIDGE.US
CITY OF SANTACLARA.US
CITY OF PRINCETON.US
CITY OF POMONA.US
CITY OF PITTSFIELD.US

Most of these type of names have already been regged by Ojen Amini.

[dtobias]

Just why is "cityofphoenixaz.us" supposed to be better than the traditional, logically structured (and un-cybersquattable), ci.phoenix.az.us?

[DNS Kidd]

Too many dots?

[_Yakov_]

Hallo, is anyone here minds to share the list of domains on hold along witht he expected release day ?

[David G]

Originally posted by dtobias Just why is "cityofphoenixaz.us" supposed to be better than the traditional, logically structured (and un-cybersquattable), ci.phoenix.az.us?

Shorter and less dots and targeted toward the important city only.

[dtobias]

Actually, "ci.phoenix.az.us" has fewer characters than "cityofphoenixaz.us". And why does everyone think dots are so terrible? They're logical hierarchical separators. If cities and states used the consistent structured domains provided in the system instead of the crazy-quilt of different names they use when they forsake that, the sites would actually be easier for clueful people to find. (Unfortunately, clueless people are more numerous.)

[dtobias]

DNS Kidd seems to think that a domain like "cityofphoenixaz.us" needs some sort of separator to keep the words from running together... unfortunately, he uses spaces for this, but those are illegal characters in a domain name. If people really think that the domain is "City of phoenix az.us", they'll get errors when they try typing that into a browser.

[David G]

Originally posted by dtobias DNS Kidd seems to think that a domain like "cityofphoenixaz.us" needs some sort of separator to keep the words from running together... unfortunately, he uses spaces for this, but those are illegal characters in a domain name. If people really think that the domain is "City of phoenix az.us", they'll get errors when they try typing that into a browser.

Hi Dan, I am familiar with and greatly respect your knowledge and work but the reason the old .us system for govt's was not good was all the abbreviations and dots in structured names like ci.phoenix.az.us?

Actually, I was referring to CityOfPhoenix.us not the one with AZ in it. This name is a zillion times better than your example. Plus, it is possible it could even get some type-in traffic. The ones with all the dots would rarely get traffic even is they somehow remember how the name looked, they would still likely enter it incorrectly, right?

CityOfPhoenix.us (and others like it) are much better than the ones with all the dots and the state name abbreviations.

[RON2]

In case anyone is looking for the link to what names are reserved

http://www.nic.us/reserved/state/index.html

[dtobias]

An interesting essay about the usefulness of local government sites using the consistent addressing system (lots of dots and all), which ironically seems to undermine itself by its own URL (within a stupid dot-com address used by a county government), is at:

http://www.scottcountyiowa.com/usdomain.html

[David G]

Originally posted by -RJ- In case anyone is looking for the link to what names are reserved http://www.nic.us/reserved/state/index.html

It's very odd why they missed reserving several large cities thruout the nation such as CityOfPhoenix.us but reserved zillions of medium and small size city names like CityOfScottsdale.us CityOfSierraVista.us etc in the same State and most large cities thruout the nation.

There are many such examples including CityOfDenver.us and several other major cities but most all the other cities were us reserved names. Perhaps Dan Tobias may know why since he is expert on the structured us name system.

[bidawinner]

Originally posted by dtobias
Actually, "ci.phoenix.az.us" has fewer characters than "cityofphoenixaz.us". And why does everyone think dots are so terrible? They're logical hierarchical separators. If cities and states used the consistent structured domains provided in the system instead of the crazy-quilt of different names they use when they forsake that, the sites would actually be easier for clueful people to find. (Unfortunately, clueless people are more numerous.)

The reason they are "terrible" is that the human brain dosent look at life as a file cabinet, complete with directories and folders.

While ci.phoenix.az.us may seem logical for a file clerk most of the populations want and expect a natural translation of speech to text.

either Phoenix.us or CityOfPhoenix.us are clearly more natural thus a superior identification to everyone except the file clerk.

I do agree a standard usage should be implemented though.