Help - Flippa transaction fraudulent

[condoleezza]

Hi guys,

I had an email from flippa to say a domain name i bought through their site yesterday was sold to me by a fraudster. Paypal won't give me the details of the fraudster and are still holding the funds and althogh i have raised a dispute, they will still release the funds to the fraudster if he answers the dispute saying he has sent me the domain!!! What a joke.................

Does anyone have the telephone number of flippa please?

Thanks George

[silentg]

Flippa doesn't collect details of the users or verify if they are legit. You are better off calling PayPal.

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Flippa number: +61.390908200 (Australia)

[DomainsInc]

seems to be lots of scammers on flippa...

[condoleezza]

Thanks Guys.

Much appreciated.

George

[Acro]

The new verification process by flippa leaves a lot to be desired but it's a step towards the right direction. Sorry to hear you were caught in the last day of the old system.

[Gerry]

Who holds payment? Or is payment directed to the seller from the close of the auction?

Is there no verification process (ie, buyer receives domain before payment released to seller)?

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Thanks Guys.

Much appreciated.

George

PayPal will be NO HELP AT ALL!

They do not issue refunds for "Intangible" Goods and PayPal will not even investigate.

Because of the above, if you file a claim...don't be surprised to get a follow up email from PayPal WITHIN HOURS notifying you that the case is closed.

[Acro]

Doc, Flippa does not offer escrow services. It's simply a marketplace. Once buyer and seller exchange the domain and the funds the process continues, e.g. feedback etc. It's the same as if the domains were listed on DNF.

[Gerry]

Doc, Flippa does not offer escrow services. It's simply a marketplace. Once buyer and seller exchange the domain and the funds the process continues, e.g. feedback etc. It's the same as if the domains were listed on DNF.

There is a sense of trust here (everyone always suspicious of nOObs).

But how in the hell can someone get away with having an auctioning service without any type of escrow or confirmation process is beyond me.

Flippa setting themselves up for a major ass-kicking lawsuit.

Even if they say they are not-responsible , guess what? The courts would most likely say they are! This is a huge misunderstanding among consumers. Saying you are not responsible for (something) does not relieve someone from responsibility. Too many court cases have shown this. Even agreeing to the TOS does not make things as cut and dry as they seem.

[katherine]

seems to be lots of scammers on flippa...

I dunno, but it's more difficult to sell tainted domains on DNF - too many watchful persons
Scammers must therefore move on to softer targets.

[Gerry]

...move on to softer targets.

The new-age "terrorists" of domaindom...move on to soft targets.

[Acro]

The game will change or the people will leave, simple as that. Flippa acts irresponsibly right now by remaining inactive towards trademark domains.

[condoleezza]

Hi Guys,

I am waiting to here back from flippa. The police have been round to my home and have allocated a crime reference number which i have passed onto paypal. The police internet fraud squad are now dealing with this and they are astounded by paypal's attitude towards victims of fraud who are not covered by paypals insurance. It seems that paypal are only interested in chasing fraud cases in which they have insurance cover and put the uninsured fraud cases to the bottom of the priority list. I will keep you posted on what develops.

Kind regards

[David G]

Don't waste time with PayPal who will never be on your side involving intangible goods such as downloads and domains. You are guaranteed of losing 100% of the time. I once had a case involvig high dollars where buyer said he never ordered but even after I sent paypal all the emails from him regarding the order where he talks about ordering and using the service successfully they refused to even look at them on the grounds they may be doctored-up and it was intangibles anyway. Not only won't they do anything but they do not require or even ask that the product be returned. Paypal is OK with the buyer keeping it and not paying.

[Onward]

There is a sense of trust here (everyone always suspicious of nOObs).

Right..there is no better way to flesh out a domain related scammer than doing business on DNF.com

[Gerry]

Hi Guys,

I am waiting to here back from flippa. The police have been round to my home and have allocated a crime reference number which i have passed onto paypal. The police internet fraud squad are now dealing with this and they are astounded by paypal's attitude towards victims of fraud who are not covered by paypals insurance. It seems that paypal are only interested in chasing fraud cases in which they have insurance cover and put the uninsured fraud cases to the bottom of the priority list. I will keep you posted on what develops.

Kind regards

Also, you need to file a police report in the seller's jurisdiction.

This is no lie...I was able to recover domains I paid for (19 in total ) to someone in England by simply contacting the internet fraud division in the UK. Within 3 days the seller was contacting me wanting to know where I would like them transferred.

[nuco]

Always use escrow.com matter of few $$$