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**azanmi** · 04-05-2009, 04:46 PM

Hi I need some good sound advice on a domain that filters traffic and sales to 5 major companies. The domain was registered and still had more than a year left before expiration. I noticed a few months ago that the site was down and decided to backorder it (based on traffic and search metrics it seemed like a great idea). The domain was released back to the registry with plenty of time left on registration and I won it. I was VERY surprised and the traffic is rediculous. I am currently entertaining offers from competitrs but I am unsure if I have clear title to sell.
Please PM for details, I really need to know what I'm doing. Most of the offers are coming with a release of indemnification in case the original owner decides they want it back.

**fab** · 04-05-2009, 04:52 PM

What are those links?

**azanmi** · 04-05-2009, 04:54 PM

My stupid SEO toolbar in Firefox. It just drops them in there. I can't edit the post either for some reason.

maybe a mod could delete them? Thanks in advance...

**fab** · 04-05-2009, 04:57 PM

Quote:

My stupid SEO toolbar in Firefox. It just drops them in there. I can't edit the post either for some reason.

No editing in legal forum. My hunch, would be to speak to a domain lawyer.

**azanmi** · 04-05-2009, 04:58 PM

Can you recommend one? Post or pm if you like

**xmax22** · 04-05-2009, 05:07 PM

Ill say its a 100% yours now. When you do sell it, sell it with sedo.com or any other domain brokers for extra layer of protection. Do not sell it on your on even if you use online escrows.

**aZooZa** · 04-05-2009, 05:14 PM

Bad advice I think plus some posturing. Re-read his post. Silly advice from xmax22.

**xmax22** · 04-05-2009, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZooZa

Bad advice I think plus some posturing. Re-read his post. Silly advice from xmax22.

What are you talking about?

**azanmi** · 04-05-2009, 05:54 PM

Well sedo does prequalify based on wether or not there are tm issues but this was puposely released and advertising and content were cut a couple of weeks ago. I have a legit offer of 150k if the legal side checks out but I'm getting 500 - 900 clicks per day parked and over 3000 searches!

**aZooZa** · 04-05-2009, 05:58 PM

Jeez...

**azanmi** · 04-05-2009, 06:20 PM

Hey guys thanks for the discussion. I would be really interested in a consultation with a domain lawyer. If anyone knows a good lawer, PLEASE pm me with the details!

**south** · 04-05-2009, 06:23 PM

http://www.dnforum.com/f295/

**DomainsInc** · 04-05-2009, 07:10 PM

What backordering platform did you use? Just curious.

**james2002** · 04-05-2009, 07:10 PM

If the domain is not trademarked, why should there be problem? You got it with backorder and I see no problem with it .

**Cartoonz** · 04-05-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azanmi

...The domain was registered and still had more than a year left before expiration.

That statement makes no sense. Does the name now have the date of your acquisition as the original registration date or was this a "lateral transfer" at the Registrar level?

Quote:

Originally Posted by azanmi

The domain was released back to the registry with plenty of time left on registration and I won it.

sorry, that is the confusing part...

**Johnn** · 04-05-2009, 07:27 PM

Consult an Attorney as Scott (South) pointed out:
http://www.dnforum.com/f295/

I don't think any one here would have the knowledge to answer your question without additional details (which you can reveal to the Attorney).

Good luck!
John

**kengreenwood** · 04-05-2009, 07:32 PM

I agree with Johnn - just consult an attorney because the details you're providing here just make the whole thing sound fishy.

Cause as far as I know (and I may be wrong) - domains don't just get released by to the registry while they are still under a current registration regardless of whether a website is up or down.

**azanmi** · 04-05-2009, 07:44 PM

yeah it is strange I got the domain on saturday and the expiration is now 12/2011! thats more that 1.5 years... Every other backorder I have ever done has come in with a year registration...

**kengreenwood** · 04-05-2009, 08:32 PM

Everything about this is odd - I have to say that my opinion is that you'll lose the domain for some reason. If you indeed to own it at the moment - it's probably temporary. Sounds like a mistake.

**copper** · 04-05-2009, 08:42 PM

previous owner could cancel the registration for what ever reason there might be, no?

04-05-2009, 04:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
azanmi Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:06 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 DNF$: 795 Location: Mesa, AZ Country:	Legal Help! Acquired Domain with 600k + visits per month Hi I need some good sound advice on a domain that filters traffic and sales to 5 major companies. The domain was registered and still had more than a year left before expiration. I noticed a few months ago that the site was down and decided to backorder it (based on traffic and search metrics it seemed like a great idea). The domain was released back to the registry with plenty of time left on registration and I won it. I was VERY surprised and the traffic is rediculous. I am currently entertaining offers from competitrs but I am unsure if I have clear title to sell. Please PM for details, I really need to know what I'm doing. Most of the offers are coming with a release of indemnification in case the original owner decides they want it back. __________________ Need Auto Parts? Want to give back? www.AutomotiveParts.org 5% of profits to The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society Last edited by Johnn; 04-05-2009 at 04:58 PM..

04-05-2009, 04:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
fab Last Online: Yesterday 06:34 PM iTrader: (26) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,391 DNF$: 182 Location: Elad Country:	What are those links? __________________ Text Link Ads WhyPark.com - Stop Parking Your Domains - 48 Hour $100 Domain Fire Sale

04-05-2009, 04:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
azanmi Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:06 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 DNF$: 795 Location: Mesa, AZ Country:	My stupid SEO toolbar in Firefox. It just drops them in there. I can't edit the post either for some reason. maybe a mod could delete them? Thanks in advance... __________________ Need Auto Parts? Want to give back? www.AutomotiveParts.org 5% of profits to The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society Last edited by azanmi; 04-05-2009 at 04:56 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-05-2009, 04:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
azanmi Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:06 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 DNF$: 795 Location: Mesa, AZ Country:	Can you recommend one? Post or pm if you like __________________ Need Auto Parts? Want to give back? www.AutomotiveParts.org 5% of profits to The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society

04-05-2009, 05:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
xmax22 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 07-03-2009 04:43 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 172 DNF$: 630 Location: USA Country:	Ill say its a 100% yours now. When you do sell it, sell it with sedo.com or any other domain brokers for extra layer of protection. Do not sell it on your on even if you use online escrows. __________________

04-05-2009, 05:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
aZooZa Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 12:09 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,868 DNF$: 5,845 Location: Exeter, England Country:	Bad advice I think plus some posturing. Re-read his post. Silly advice from xmax22. __________________ UK Drop Catching Services: Dropsystem.co.uk New! Canada TBR Drop Catching: Dropping.ca New! QUALITY MiniSites: NOTsoMINI.com

04-05-2009, 05:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
azanmi Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:06 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 DNF$: 795 Location: Mesa, AZ Country:	Well sedo does prequalify based on wether or not there are tm issues but this was puposely released and advertising and content were cut a couple of weeks ago. I have a legit offer of 150k if the legal side checks out but I'm getting 500 - 900 clicks per day parked and over 3000 searches! __________________ Need Auto Parts? Want to give back? www.AutomotiveParts.org 5% of profits to The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society

04-05-2009, 05:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
aZooZa Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 12:09 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,868 DNF$: 5,845 Location: Exeter, England Country:	Jeez... __________________ UK Drop Catching Services: Dropsystem.co.uk New! Canada TBR Drop Catching: Dropping.ca New! QUALITY MiniSites: NOTsoMINI.com

04-05-2009, 06:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
azanmi Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:06 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 DNF$: 795 Location: Mesa, AZ Country:	Hey guys thanks for the discussion. I would be really interested in a consultation with a domain lawyer. If anyone knows a good lawer, PLEASE pm me with the details! __________________ Need Auto Parts? Want to give back? www.AutomotiveParts.org 5% of profits to The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society

04-05-2009, 06:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
south DNF Addict Name: Scott Last Online: Yesterday 08:25 AM iTrader: (132) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,074 DNF$: 2,431 Location: 33143/04930 Country:	http://www.dnforum.com/f295/ __________________ All offers valid for 72 hours except running auctions. SJCParking.com \| PrivateNursing.net \| LaGuardiaParking.net

04-05-2009, 07:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
DomainsInc Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 01:43 AM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,398 DNF$: 437 Location: Ottawa Country:	What backordering platform did you use? Just curious.

04-05-2009, 07:10 PM	#14 (permalink)
james2002 DeliciousNames.com Last Online: 11-04-2009 11:56 AM iTrader: (52) Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,852 DNF$: 6,120 Location: DeliciousNames Country:	If the domain is not trademarked, why should there be problem? You got it with backorder and I see no problem with it . __________________ >>> C D z . c o m <<< Sale=> Toysale.com , GreeceTours.com; CasinoSite.com , CasinoWebsite.com

04-05-2009, 07:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
Johnn NameIntell.com Last Online: Yesterday 08:50 PM iTrader: (324) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,502 DNF$: 40,948 Location: Pennsylvania Country:	Consult an Attorney as Scott (South) pointed out: http://www.dnforum.com/f295/ I don't think any one here would have the knowledge to answer your question without additional details (which you can reveal to the Attorney). Good luck! John __________________ HotWebTools.com NameIntell.com - Names For Sale TechSupportBoard.com

04-05-2009, 07:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
kengreenwood Platinum Lifetime Member Name: That shouldn't be too hard to figure out... Last Online: 10-29-2009 08:46 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 377 DNF$: 4,437 Location: Tampa Country:	I agree with Johnn - just consult an attorney because the details you're providing here just make the whole thing sound fishy. Cause as far as I know (and I may be wrong) - domains don't just get released by to the registry while they are still under a current registration regardless of whether a website is up or down. __________________ KJG OneWorldMedia, ZFBot Last edited by kengreenwood; 04-05-2009 at 07:37 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-05-2009, 07:44 PM	#18 (permalink)
azanmi Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:06 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 192 DNF$: 795 Location: Mesa, AZ Country:	yeah it is strange I got the domain on saturday and the expiration is now 12/2011! thats more that 1.5 years... Every other backorder I have ever done has come in with a year registration... __________________ Need Auto Parts? Want to give back? www.AutomotiveParts.org 5% of profits to The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society

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04-05-2009, 08:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
kengreenwood Platinum Lifetime Member Name: That shouldn't be too hard to figure out... Last Online: 10-29-2009 08:46 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 377 DNF$: 4,437 Location: Tampa Country:	Everything about this is odd - I have to say that my opinion is that you'll lose the domain for some reason. If you indeed to own it at the moment - it's probably temporary. Sounds like a mistake. __________________ KJG OneWorldMedia, ZFBot

04-05-2009, 08:42 PM	#20 (permalink)
copper CrossLogix.com Last Online: Yesterday 04:44 PM iTrader: (65) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,237 DNF$: 2,163 Location: Matthews, NC. U	previous owner could cancel the registration for what ever reason there might be, no? __________________ Domain Names For Sale

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