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I alwasys wanted to keep peace and didn't mind him, but please see, how much he insulted me. how much he threatened me, JEsports and Theinvestor,
I reported to mods, and admin, after one week, I still didn't get this simple issue resolved. The insulting words are still in my iTrader. So let's make it public and let every DNF members see and judge.
Re: upkr.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorin
kr is for Korea.
You can get it at $250. Is that OK?
Best regards,
Dorin
I don't need a name for korea. I can do $130 if not I understand.
Re: upkr.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorin
ok. send to my paypal: lilipeng24@msn.com
give me your registration info at GoDaddy.
Best regards,
Dorin
I am sorry I just found out I only have $95 in paypal. ugh!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorin
I have got offer of $100 for this domain. You can send me $95 and the rest $35 later as you are trusted dnf member. I can transfer domain to you after receive $95. Sounds fair?
Best regards,
Dorin
I can send part from credit card. Would you take $112 total?
Re: upkr.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorin
didn't receive your payment yet.
just got home, can i still pay?
04-11-2008, 07:31 AM
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Re: upkr.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorin
You exceeded the bottom. If you do not pay to close the deal ,I will have no other choice but to leave you a negative comment in your iTrader.
You are a real JERK buddy! I will do the same for you. A REAL JERK. I would like to meet you in person. I will pay but I want you to CHOKE on the money. Can you do that for me? Can you come visit me if I pay your flight? My wife has been very sick and I have not been able to do anything.
Re: upkr.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorin
you do not pay and do not respond except this insulting reply. Should I cancel the deal and offer this domain to other buyers? Or you still able to pay in time to close the deal？Please reply as soon as possible.
Dorin
I do not approve of you using my name in the chat room. Do you want to just trade bad feedback then?
Re: upkr.com
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dorin
I didn't use your name, you can ask the admin to check the chatroom log
This has gotten crazy, how do we go about leaving bad feedback for each other
Rating Summary Options From Date
Do not buy from EVER. Bad person. SLANDER on chat like crazy. A poor excuse,
Buyer robertsz (14) 04-17-2008
Rating Summary Options From Date
really bad buyer,fistlyoffer,then said no enough money,thenquit,then threaten me
Seller Dorin (19) 04-17-2008
Dorin 04-17-2008, 02:27 PM
Originally Posted by Dorin
You exceeded the bottom. If you do not pay to close the deal ,I will have no other choice but to leave you a negative comment in your iTrader.
You are a real JERK buddy! I will do the same for you. A REAL JERK. I would like to meet you in person. I will pay but I want you to CHOKE on the money. Can you do that for me? Can you come visit me if I pay your flight? My wife has been very sick and I have not been able to do anything.
robertsz 04-17-2008, 02:38 PM
nice cut paste, and edit. Never deal with this scammer
Hmmmmm... Lets hear what the defendants have to say!Originally Posted by Dorin
can you repost it and clear it up slightly ? - cant catchup on anything who is the other person- i only see "Dorin"
I know who the other person is and I am not trying to defend his actions - I would just like to say that I have dealt with him previously and closed a great deal with absolutely no problems. I don't know if somebody should be banned because of a single issue, especially one that deals with such little sum of money (relatively).
I posted the PM records and the itrader he left for me without any "cut, edit" which is said by him in my itrader.
"robertsz 04-17-2008, 02:38 PM
nice cut paste, and edit. Never deal with this scammer"
What he said are all lying.
Chatroom record:- saved on Thu Apr 17 14:05:55 UTC+0800 2008 -
mikesherov: HA
Dorin I didn't mind you for good willing. but you constantly insult me
ryansmith2020: dorin you up to cancel neg?
robertsz: Are you crazy?
theinvestor: Dorin....Robert...finish transaction and take back negatives
robertsz: No
mikesherov: look, isn't it obvious that tempers flared here over misconstruals?
robertsz: I will only take back the neg
robertsz: I am writing it now
mikesherov: wait, just wait
mikesherov: let's examine facts here
mikesherov: you both claim the other is talking smack and insulting the other
mikesherov: you're BOTH RIGHT
mikesherov: in most cases like this
mikesherov: neither can accurately recall how started the insults firs
mikesherov: or come to any agreement
ryansmith2020 hey this isnt worth the crap up to you but i would just end this and dont bother with him he is too emotional LOL
mikesherov: let's just chalk this up to tempers flaring
theinvestor: mike this isn't about insults...it's about transaction not completed.
mikesherov: no, it's not
mikesherov: it's about insults
theinvestor: you leave feedback based on transaction results
mikesherov: RIGHT
theinvestor: mike..transaction was not completed
robertsz: Hello, If agreed by user "Dorin" I would like to remove my negative comment from his feedback if he agrees to do the same. We both are respected members here and I feel we had a misunderstanding. Thank you kindly Robert
robertsz: We AGREED not to do the transaction
mikesherov: theinvestor, Robert has a PM from Dorin to not do the deal
robertsz: He has admitted to it
mikesherov: at the end of the day
robertsz: YUP
mikesherov: this isn't about the transaction
theinvestor: Dorin do you want the transaction completed? yes or no
robertsz: I just sent that note
mikesherov: it's about the way the non-transaction was handled
robertsz: There is NO DEAL
robertsz: Dorin...
robertsz: I just sent that to the admin
oemedia left the room. (Logged out)
mikesherov: Look, Dorin just said it was done for 3 days
mikesherov: until he saw that robert was still talking about it
robertsz Hello, If agreed by user "Dorin" I would like to remove my negative comment from his feedback if he agrees to do the same. We both are respected members here and I feel we had a misunderstanding. Thank you kindly Robert
mikesherov: this whole thing is about the users talking about each other
robertsz: want to know the funny thing Mike?
mikesherov: it's obvious there was some situation going on in robert's life at the time
robertsz: It was the investor you brought it up when I came in
mikesherov: that cause him to be a bit hot headed
mikesherov: OR NOT
mikesherov: whatver
robertsz: It was me and him talking about it
robertsz: LOL
robertsz: He started bombarding me
theinvestor: robert...actually it was Wired
mikesherov: the point is, this is about the two users getting angry over the discourse used to pull back the transaction
robertsz: Well it was someone
mikesherov: we don't all need the details
mikesherov: in the end
theinvestor: i just continued the discussion
Dorin robertsz: apologize to me, then this deal is over
robertsz: I just sent the letter
mikesherov: Dorin is lucky that he didn't sell for $130!
mikesherov: Hell, I'll buy it for $130 to get everyone to shut up!
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz I am sure you are a nice guy. I am as well. We got a misunderstanding.
ryansmith2020: let mike pay and ill take the name LOL
mikesherov: HA
ryansmith2020: lol
mikesherov: even better
mikesherov: look
theinvestor: hahaha
mikesherov: we're all reasonable people here
Dorin robertsz: apologization is a decent way for you
theinvestor: ryan's hilarious
robertsz I have sent that email to admin to remove
mikesherov: let's all just apologize
theinvestor: let's all hold hands and sing kumbaya
ryansmith2020: lol
mikesherov: and agree that we're all buffoons for wasting our precious time on this
mikesherov: all of us
mikesherov: I'm a huge buffoon
mikesherov: I could've been doing work
robertsz Well Dorin, here is the thing. You are not undertanding what happend right. I apologies that you are confused and feel bad. I am looking to move on and sent the letter to remove neg.
Dorin robertsz: it is not a shame to apologize, just keep you decent.
mikesherov: instead I'm in hear butting my nose where it don't belong
theinvestor: maybe he doesn't feel he did anything wrong
robertsz Well I feel its your fault. But I do apologies you took it the way you did.
Dorin ok, Robertsz apologized.
robertsz: I didnt
robertsz: Its not my fault
robertsz: He misunderstood and I feel sorry about that
robertsz: I am a nice person
robertsz: I try and be kind
theinvestor: as long as you try
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz: I feel bad that he is so confused
Dorin 13:15 robertsz tells you: Well I feel its your fault. But I do apologies you took it the way you did.
robertsz: LOL
robertsz: Look Dorin
theinvestor: Dorin...that's not an apology
robertsz: I sent the letter
robertsz: NOPR
robertsz: NOPE
robertsz: I never claimed it was
robertsz: Did I
theinvestor: Dorin maybe you should apologize to robert.
mikesherov: Listen
mikesherov: this is stupid
robertsz: Bottom line is I feel bad it all happened
mikesherov: Just apologize for the miscommunication
ryansmith2020: we are going backwards lol
mikesherov: put away the ego for two minutes
robertsz: I apologies that it happend and feel sorry
mikesherov: and let's get this over with
theinvestor: why cant the deal finish?
robertsz: I sent in my letter
theinvestor: i don't understand
Dorin I want to finish this issue, but you constantly insulting
robertsz: Where?
theinvestor: if you're apologizing guys...finish the deal
robertsz: in your head
mikesherov: Oh god
robertsz: lol
mikesherov: Robert, watch this
robertsz: DUDE I am sorry for the misunderstanding
mikesherov: Hey Guys, I'm sorry
robertsz: Have a good night
robertsz: The email was sent
mikesherov: I didn't mean for the misunderstanding
robertsz: Mike is my advisor
theinvestor: yes the misunderstanding...good wording.
robertsz: he is now doing all my speaking
mikesherov: HA
theinvestor: i'll speak for Dorin
theinvestor: LOL
ryansmith2020: lol
theinvestor: ok mike..apologize to me
mikesherov: Dorin, do you accept the apology?
mikesherov: Um
mikesherov: OK
robertsz: It was a misunderstanding and lets move on
Dorin mikesherov: it is not an apology
mikesherov: Investor, do you accept the apology?
theinvestor: you didn't apologize yet mike...
mikesherov: Dorin, stay out of this!
mikesherov: This is between me and invesor now!
Dorin mikesherov: yes
mikesherov: LOL
ryansmith2020: i dont know what is going on but im pretty sure someone just got married here LOL
theinvestor: ha ha ha
robertsz: Dorin.. I love you. I always have. I am so sorry
mikesherov: HOORAY
robertsz: Please dont hurt me
theinvestor: you may now kiss the bride
ryansmith2020: lol
mikesherov: Wait, who married what now?
mikesherov: Did someone just have a kid?
Dorin robertsz: I am not a gay
robertsz: You are a very special person. Like a brother
mikesherov: HA
robertsz: Always have been
robertsz: Always will
mikesherov: you guys are unbelievable
robertsz: Nothing can tear us apart
mikesherov: you deserve each other!
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz: OK Dorin sorry
Dorin ok. Robertsz.
robertsz: But seriously I wish you all luck
robertsz: I am done
robertsz: My last chat room appearance
theinvestor: robertz what are you sorry for?
ryansmith2020: robert
ryansmith2020: no its not
robertsz: Being a member of this chat room
robertsz: dealingt with the investor
robertsz: mostly
robertsz:
theinvestor: you're sorry for dealing with me lol
theinvestor: well i'm glad this is out of the way
theinvestor: Dorin, do you plan to take back negative?
robertsz: So Dorin did you send your letter as well?
Dorin theinvestor: I do not mind,
robertsz: Honestly Ryan I am never coming back online
theinvestor: do not mind what dorin?
robertsz: this is it
ryansmith2020: robert come on
robertsz: So good luck to everyone
theinvestor: robert you're done with internet now?
robertsz: yup
robertsz: whole thing
theinvestor: robertsz: yea you are pulling off?
ryansmith2020: dont be like that
ryansmith2020: sell me your domains
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz: no just the chat room
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Everthing should be over after his wording apology, and I didn't mind him. But the next day, he threatened theinvestor saying will report to payal and close theinvestor's paypal account. He wants to report an honest DNF member as a scammer. This is also recorded by theinvestor with screen print.
Last edited by Dorin; 04-21-2008 at 01:22 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
All of this is over $130?
I spend more than that to fill up my SUV.
If you voted for our current President in 2008 to prove you weren't a racist,
please vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot. Thank you
Hmmmm....I posted the PM records and the itrader he left for me without any "cut, edit" which is said by him in my itrader.
"robertsz 04-17-2008, 02:38 PM
nice cut paste, and edit. Never deal with this scammer"
What he said are all lying.
Chatroom record:- saved on Thu Apr 17 14:05:55 UTC+0800 2008 -
mikesherov: HA
Dorin I didn't mind you for good willing. but you constantly insult me
ryansmith2020: dorin you up to cancel neg?
robertsz: Are you crazy?
theinvestor: Dorin....Robert...finish transaction and take back negatives
robertsz: No
mikesherov: look, isn't it obvious that tempers flared here over misconstruals?
robertsz: I will only take back the neg
robertsz: I am writing it now
mikesherov: wait, just wait
mikesherov: let's examine facts here
mikesherov: you both claim the other is talking smack and insulting the other
mikesherov: you're BOTH RIGHT
mikesherov: in most cases like this
mikesherov: neither can accurately recall how started the insults firs
mikesherov: or come to any agreement
ryansmith2020 hey this isnt worth the crap up to you but i would just end this and dont bother with him he is too emotional LOL
mikesherov: let's just chalk this up to tempers flaring
theinvestor: mike this isn't about insults...it's about transaction not completed.
mikesherov: no, it's not
mikesherov: it's about insults
theinvestor: you leave feedback based on transaction results
mikesherov: RIGHT
theinvestor: mike..transaction was not completed
robertsz: Hello, If agreed by user "Dorin" I would like to remove my negative comment from his feedback if he agrees to do the same. We both are respected members here and I feel we had a misunderstanding. Thank you kindly Robert
robertsz: We AGREED not to do the transaction
mikesherov: theinvestor, Robert has a PM from Dorin to not do the deal
robertsz: He has admitted to it
mikesherov: at the end of the day
robertsz: YUP
mikesherov: this isn't about the transaction
theinvestor: Dorin do you want the transaction completed? yes or no
robertsz: I just sent that note
mikesherov: it's about the way the non-transaction was handled
robertsz: There is NO DEAL
robertsz: Dorin...
robertsz: I just sent that to the admin
oemedia left the room. (Logged out)
mikesherov: Look, Dorin just said it was done for 3 days
mikesherov: until he saw that robert was still talking about it
robertsz Hello, If agreed by user "Dorin" I would like to remove my negative comment from his feedback if he agrees to do the same. We both are respected members here and I feel we had a misunderstanding. Thank you kindly Robert
mikesherov: this whole thing is about the users talking about each other
robertsz: want to know the funny thing Mike?
mikesherov: it's obvious there was some situation going on in robert's life at the time
robertsz: It was the investor you brought it up when I came in
mikesherov: that cause him to be a bit hot headed
mikesherov: OR NOT
mikesherov: whatver
robertsz: It was me and him talking about it
robertsz: LOL
robertsz: He started bombarding me
theinvestor: robert...actually it was Wired
mikesherov: the point is, this is about the two users getting angry over the discourse used to pull back the transaction
robertsz: Well it was someone
mikesherov: we don't all need the details
mikesherov: in the end
theinvestor: i just continued the discussion
Dorin robertsz: apologize to me, then this deal is over
robertsz: I just sent the letter
mikesherov: Dorin is lucky that he didn't sell for $130!
mikesherov: Hell, I'll buy it for $130 to get everyone to shut up!
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz I am sure you are a nice guy. I am as well. We got a misunderstanding.
ryansmith2020: let mike pay and ill take the name LOL
mikesherov: HA
ryansmith2020: lol
mikesherov: even better
mikesherov: look
theinvestor: hahaha
mikesherov: we're all reasonable people here
Dorin robertsz: apologization is a decent way for you
theinvestor: ryan's hilarious
robertsz I have sent that email to admin to remove
mikesherov: let's all just apologize
theinvestor: let's all hold hands and sing kumbaya
ryansmith2020: lol
mikesherov: and agree that we're all buffoons for wasting our precious time on this
mikesherov: all of us
mikesherov: I'm a huge buffoon
mikesherov: I could've been doing work
robertsz Well Dorin, here is the thing. You are not undertanding what happend right. I apologies that you are confused and feel bad. I am looking to move on and sent the letter to remove neg.
Dorin robertsz: it is not a shame to apologize, just keep you decent.
mikesherov: instead I'm in hear butting my nose where it don't belong
theinvestor: maybe he doesn't feel he did anything wrong
robertsz Well I feel its your fault. But I do apologies you took it the way you did.
Dorin ok, Robertsz apologized.
robertsz: I didnt
robertsz: Its not my fault
robertsz: He misunderstood and I feel sorry about that
robertsz: I am a nice person
robertsz: I try and be kind
theinvestor: as long as you try
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz: I feel bad that he is so confused
Dorin 13:15 robertsz tells you: Well I feel its your fault. But I do apologies you took it the way you did.
robertsz: LOL
robertsz: Look Dorin
theinvestor: Dorin...that's not an apology
robertsz: I sent the letter
robertsz: NOPR
robertsz: NOPE
robertsz: I never claimed it was
robertsz: Did I
theinvestor: Dorin maybe you should apologize to robert.
mikesherov: Listen
mikesherov: this is stupid
robertsz: Bottom line is I feel bad it all happened
mikesherov: Just apologize for the miscommunication
ryansmith2020: we are going backwards lol
mikesherov: put away the ego for two minutes
robertsz: I apologies that it happend and feel sorry
mikesherov: and let's get this over with
theinvestor: why cant the deal finish?
robertsz: I sent in my letter
theinvestor: i don't understand
Dorin I want to finish this issue, but you constantly insulting
robertsz: Where?
theinvestor: if you're apologizing guys...finish the deal
robertsz: in your head
mikesherov: Oh god
robertsz: lol
mikesherov: Robert, watch this
robertsz: DUDE I am sorry for the misunderstanding
mikesherov: Hey Guys, I'm sorry
robertsz: Have a good night
robertsz: The email was sent
mikesherov: I didn't mean for the misunderstanding
robertsz: Mike is my advisor
theinvestor: yes the misunderstanding...good wording.
robertsz: he is now doing all my speaking
mikesherov: HA
theinvestor: i'll speak for Dorin
theinvestor: LOL
ryansmith2020: lol
theinvestor: ok mike..apologize to me
mikesherov: Dorin, do you accept the apology?
mikesherov: Um
mikesherov: OK
robertsz: It was a misunderstanding and lets move on
Dorin mikesherov: it is not an apology
mikesherov: Investor, do you accept the apology?
theinvestor: you didn't apologize yet mike...
mikesherov: Dorin, stay out of this!
mikesherov: This is between me and invesor now!
Dorin mikesherov: yes
mikesherov: LOL
ryansmith2020: i dont know what is going on but im pretty sure someone just got married here LOL
theinvestor: ha ha ha
robertsz: Dorin.. I love you. I always have. I am so sorry
mikesherov: HOORAY
robertsz: Please dont hurt me
theinvestor: you may now kiss the bride
ryansmith2020: lol
mikesherov: Wait, who married what now?
mikesherov: Did someone just have a kid?
Dorin robertsz: I am not a gay
robertsz: You are a very special person. Like a brother
mikesherov: HA
robertsz: Always have been
robertsz: Always will
mikesherov: you guys are unbelievable
robertsz: Nothing can tear us apart
mikesherov: you deserve each other!
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz: OK Dorin sorry
Dorin ok. Robertsz.
robertsz: But seriously I wish you all luck
robertsz: I am done
robertsz: My last chat room appearance
theinvestor: robertz what are you sorry for?
ryansmith2020: robert
ryansmith2020: no its not
robertsz: Being a member of this chat room
robertsz: dealingt with the investor
robertsz: mostly
robertsz:
theinvestor: you're sorry for dealing with me lol
theinvestor: well i'm glad this is out of the way
theinvestor: Dorin, do you plan to take back negative?
robertsz: So Dorin did you send your letter as well?
Dorin theinvestor: I do not mind,
robertsz: Honestly Ryan I am never coming back online
theinvestor: do not mind what dorin?
robertsz: this is it
ryansmith2020: robert come on
robertsz: So good luck to everyone
theinvestor: robert you're done with internet now?
robertsz: yup
robertsz: whole thing
theinvestor: robertsz: yea you are pulling off?
ryansmith2020: dont be like that
ryansmith2020: sell me your domains
ryansmith2020: lol
robertsz: no just the chat room
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Everthing should be over after his wording apology, and I didn't mind him. But the next day, he threatened theinvestor saying will report to payal and close theinvestor's paypal account. He wants to report an honest DNF member as a scammer. This is also recorded by theinvestor with screen print.
no deal, no money, whats the problem?
BobGuzzo.comdomains.
The problem is TIME imo
I dont want people claiming a domain name and start dancing around when its time to make the payment and complete the deal..
It would be better to mention about buyer making payment within xxhrs. in sales thread to avoid conflicts later imo.
next persons who quotes one mile long posts will be shot
yeah, batboy needs to find some bat scissors
In summary, I do not mind he didnt pay, but he threatened me, then JEsponts, then theinvestor, He posted in my itrader saying I am a scammer. he threatened theinvestor to report to paypal to close his account. he wanted to report honest member to be scammer. these are what I can not bear .
Batman just tried to take backup of some posts, but in this section of forum it isnt really required as poster cant edit the post.
I am dumber for having read that whole chat.
Just searching the site. I see a week later Dorin is still on his voyage. I have a PM from him saying the deal did not need to be completed. He admitted that to everyone in the room. Why else would Rich and other people defend this. Plus I have the freaking PM from him! He constantly talked about me and this deal in the dnforum room which is uncalled for. Every time I came into chat someone told me he was speaking bad about me. Though I cant verify he actually did or if it was just two knuckleheads trying to cause an issue. Thus I called it a misunderstanding and agreed things got out of control. I am allowed to defend myself. I like the cut and paste job he did. He tried his best to edit out the portion where he admits he agreed not to do the deal. But as you can reed there is still small portions of it. The bottom line is I sent an PM to the admin to take away my neg from him if that is possible. He picked to leave me a negative first AFTER saying he agreed we had no deal. Was I supposed to not give him one back?? I had 100% feedback and always payed on time and still do. Yes, everyone is dumber for reading this. Bottom line is I am going to spend time with my newborn and wife and wont be on here to post again on this matter. It's a waste of time. Get a life.
Just quit the name calling and move on. Only way to end it from here.
Dorin is obviously losing sleep over this. I just left him a positive feedback explaining the other was a misunderstanding. Hopefully he can now sleep at night and be able to move on with his life. But
First off I don't really get how this is a legal issue. To me it seems that the deal went bad and even if negative feedback was left for each other Dorin whats the point in posting new threads about it? What are you really going to get out of it other than more finger pointing or name calling?
Obviously you two can't get along and its over and done with. I would chalk it up as a lesson learned on both sides and move on.
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Agreed pink. I was away since last week and came back to this post. It's silly. Just wanted to put my side out there. Though I don't think anyone even cares about this. I was hoping a mod would close it b/c it's wasting peoples time with real legal issues
why people resort to insults and name calling is beyond me. You need a thick skin in this business and in any business especially when deals go bad.
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