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**Keyword Factory** · 12-20-2006, 09:33 PM

http://www.weblo.com/domain/

I saw someone selling one of these "virtual" domains (Mobile.com) on Ebay.

**simon** · 12-20-2006, 09:35 PM

may be its mobile.weblo.com?

**Keyword Factory** · 12-20-2006, 09:46 PM

here is the specific "virtual" domain

http://www.weblo.com/domain/mobile.com/398058/

**jberryhill** · 12-20-2006, 10:05 PM

I must be positively stupid. I looked at this Weblo thing before, and I still don't understand WTF it is about.

**iBizStart** · 12-20-2006, 10:07 PM

Its a virtual world where you can buy and sell pretty much everything
the more popular version of it is second life

**Keyword Factory** · 12-20-2006, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jberryhill

I must be positively stupid. I looked at this Weblo thing before, and I still don't understand WTF it is about.

They want you to play a game of buying and selling items like stock market games where you don't actually put money up. However, if I understand things correctly, you set up this virtual site and it has real advertising with real revenue. It also has some type of "virtual" value as well based on traffic.

I think you can buy and sell with virtual money but you can also buy and sell these virtual assets with real money. Someone is selling a "virtual" mobile.com for $100K BIN on Ebay and he has 2 offers below the BIN. Of course Weblo avoids liability because they advertise a strict takedown policy.

I am sure there are a few lawsuits in there somewhere.

**Dave Zan** · 12-20-2006, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by consumers

I am sure there are a few lawsuits in there somewhere.

In the real world or the virtual world?

**Acro** · 12-20-2006, 11:47 PM

I get it. But a lawyer's time is not virtual so I wonder when will they get the first lawsuit for attempting to play "Monopoly" with copies of real money.

**Creature** · 12-21-2006, 12:59 AM

I slightly get it I think. You can own the virtual generic domains like say diamonds .com. I would guess that you can only use the virtual diamonds .com domain using either the Weblow site or Weblow software. I think that Weblow may be hiding behind the word 'virtual'. Seems misleading.

**cambkey** · 12-21-2006, 11:51 AM

Well, it is a game. and domains are part of it. as are celebrities and mayors.

It is not virtual in the 3d sense of the word but it is a made up world and I am sure people still have to take notice of trademark law and it might take the threat of a lawsuit to stamp any abuse out.

But just as in the real world there are generics and they have value.

Earlier this week I sold the mayorship of Seattle in Weblo for $2000, which is about $1100 more then my highest real world domain sale of the year.

Was it a one off? maybe. Is everyone going to get rich just by registering any rubbish? Absolutely not.

All I know is that Dollars earned in a virtual world buy exactly the same as those earnt in the real world

**nrmillions** · 12-21-2006, 03:05 PM

I am also on weblo and I think it could end up being a good investment as long as you stay away from TMs. Just because it is "virtual" doesnt mean companies cant protect their intellectual property. I would only buy generic words that dont have a TM. Some generic words might also have a TM with the .com extension in it such as hotels.com. Hotels is a generic word so you could own the .net or .org but if you owned hotels.com even in weblo it would be a TM violation since the .com extension is part of the company's name. If weblo becomes big then its only a matter of time before companies enforce their TMs on weblo as well.

**maxo** · 12-21-2006, 03:13 PM

Why do you waste your time?

**jberryhill** · 12-22-2006, 12:59 PM

I still don't get it.

Can someone provide a link to a website using one of these "Weblo domains"?

**Dave Zan** · 12-22-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jberryhill

Can someone provide a link to a website using one of these "Weblo domains"?

Does a weblo domain need a website?

I'll really be darned if a weblo user makes an actual killing out of such.

**biggedon** · 12-22-2006, 09:40 PM

seems more like another "new .NET" thingy

it's more like an improvement of that.

good idea to make your own little "www"

**DomainEngineer** · 12-22-2006, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jberryhill

I must be positively stupid. I looked at this Weblo thing before, and I still don't understand WTF it is about.

Very well said. What a way to make people fool.

**nrmillions** · 12-23-2006, 12:07 PM

weblo allows you to register .com, .net, .org or any existing extension name. It also places google ads onto your site and you earn ad revenue from it too. weblo sites also show up on real life google search results. they also let you own a city, state, or any property that exists in real life too and there are ads on those pages as well for you to earn revenue from.

12-20-2006, 09:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Keyword Factory DNF Addict Last Online: 11-14-2009 07:38 PM iTrader: (115) Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,694 DNF$: 5,360 Location: New Jersey Country:	New type of trademark claim? http://www.weblo.com/domain/ I saw someone selling one of these "virtual" domains (Mobile.com) on Ebay. __________________ Trademarks.org - trademark information

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Keyword Factory DNF Addict Last Online: 11-14-2009 07:38 PM iTrader: (115) Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,694 DNF$: 5,360 Location: New Jersey Country:	Re: New type of trademark claim? here is the specific "virtual" domain http://www.weblo.com/domain/mobile.com/398058/ __________________ Trademarks.org - trademark information

12-20-2006, 10:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
jberryhill Philadelphia Lawyer Last Online: 09-18-2009 01:17 AM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,987 DNF$: 6,350	Re: New type of trademark claim? I must be positively stupid. I looked at this Weblo thing before, and I still don't understand WTF it is about. __________________ John Berryhill Ph.d., esq. John-AT-johnberryhill.com Please do not send private messages via dnforum.com, email me directly.

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Creature Last Online: Today 08:38 AM iTrader: (10) Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,544 DNF$: 6,864 Location: UK	Re: New type of trademark claim? I slightly get it I think. You can own the virtual generic domains like say diamonds .com. I would guess that you can only use the virtual diamonds .com domain using either the Weblow site or Weblow software. I think that Weblow may be hiding behind the word 'virtual'. Seems misleading. __________________ 'Those who stand for nothing fall for anything' - Alexander Hamilton in 1978

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cambkey Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 12-28-2008 05:17 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 34 DNF$: 156 Location: uk	Re: New type of trademark claim? Well, it is a game. and domains are part of it. as are celebrities and mayors. It is not virtual in the 3d sense of the word but it is a made up world and I am sure people still have to take notice of trademark law and it might take the threat of a lawsuit to stamp any abuse out. But just as in the real world there are generics and they have value. Earlier this week I sold the mayorship of Seattle in Weblo for $2000, which is about $1100 more then my highest real world domain sale of the year. Was it a one off? maybe. Is everyone going to get rich just by registering any rubbish? Absolutely not. All I know is that Dollars earned in a virtual world buy exactly the same as those earnt in the real world __________________ LTE.mobi - On Sedo Auction - Reserve Met

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nrmillions DNF Regular Name: Neil Last Online: 11-22-2009 03:50 PM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 948 DNF$: 670 Location: Boston, MA Country:	Re: New type of trademark claim? I am also on weblo and I think it could end up being a good investment as long as you stay away from TMs. Just because it is "virtual" doesnt mean companies cant protect their intellectual property. I would only buy generic words that dont have a TM. Some generic words might also have a TM with the .com extension in it such as hotels.com. Hotels is a generic word so you could own the .net or .org but if you owned hotels.com even in weblo it would be a TM violation since the .com extension is part of the company's name. If weblo becomes big then its only a matter of time before companies enforce their TMs on weblo as well.

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jberryhill Philadelphia Lawyer Last Online: 09-18-2009 01:17 AM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,987 DNF$: 6,350	Re: New type of trademark claim? I still don't get it. Can someone provide a link to a website using one of these "Weblo domains"? __________________ John Berryhill Ph.d., esq. John-AT-johnberryhill.com Please do not send private messages via dnforum.com, email me directly.

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biggedon iSpoof.com Last Online: Today 09:53 AM iTrader: (112) Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 11,001 DNF$: 51,481 Location: 96.net	Re: New type of trademark claim? seems more like another "new .NET" thingy it's more like an improvement of that. good idea to make your own little "www" __________________ worldiptv.com * svc.net * belisted.com * mobi.us.com * sop.net * qfm.net * upyo.com * vioz.com * Need A SedoPro Account PM Me Last edited by biggedon; 12-22-2006 at 09:43 PM..

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nrmillions DNF Regular Name: Neil Last Online: 11-22-2009 03:50 PM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 948 DNF$: 670 Location: Boston, MA Country:	Re: New type of trademark claim? weblo allows you to register .com, .net, .org or any existing extension name. It also places google ads onto your site and you earn ad revenue from it too. weblo sites also show up on real life google search results. they also let you own a city, state, or any property that exists in real life too and there are ads on those pages as well for you to earn revenue from.

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