Orn.com domain laundry?

[Yum]

I am afraid "YES". I already checked whois info.
The seller pushed Orn.com and JVT.com to my account on Registerfly.com,It is really true.
But After payment sent,The seller got both names back.and i wrote an email back to A_J.
Then He pushed back again ,and got back again.This just happened 3-4 times.
For this reason,i called registerfly and ask why this happened so many times.
it was on NOV 16 2006 that this happened.
This neme really stolen?why this happened so many times?I don't know why.
Ok,i will show you these emails.

from Ben <my email,but no tell>
to a_j@safe-mail.net
date Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 6:23 AM
subject hi,BUY from dnforum
mailed-by gmail.com

hide details 11/16/06

HI,a_j
Nice to meet u in dnforum.
ORN.com +JVT.com =$7k
Thanks.

from a_j@safe-mail.net
to <my email,but no tell>
date Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 7:50 AM
mailed-by safe-mail.net
signed-by Safe-mail.net

hide details 11/16/06
Ok, are u Mr. Buy?

I have some PMs ,but cleared.
COntinue

from Ben <my email,but no tell>
to "a_j@safe-mail.net" <a_j@safe-mail.net>
date Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 9:03 AM
mailed-by gmail.com

hide details 11/21/06

hi,A_J
i was told
The following domain(s) were transfered from account ??? into account JonVT.

Domain List:
jvt.com

please tell me what's wrong and push back.
Thanks.

from a_j@safe-mail.net
to my email,but no tell
date Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 10:02 AM
mailed-by safe-mail.net
signed-by Safe-mail.net

hide details 11/21/06

Wait some min. It is antifraud of RegisterFly due domain stealing. I'll write them in few minutes, say that all is ok, and domain will be in ur account again.

[/quote]
from a_j@safe-mail.net
to my email,but no tell
date Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 10:05 AM
mailed-by safe-mail.net
signed-by Safe-mail.net

hide details 11/21/06

Done. Check it.
Let's chat in icq about domains I sent you.
[/quote]
And i really got these 2 names in my rgefly account.

from Ben <my email,but no tell>
to a_j@safe-mail.net
date Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 2:04 PM
mailed-by gmail.com

hide details 11/21/06

hi,i also lost ORN.com
please push back.
Thanks.

and i worte 3 emails but no reply after that.

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And i don't know why RL update the whois info of ORN.com this day.I checked the whois info after sell listing.

[Tim Schoon]

ehm... this all happened in 2006, and you're posting it now? how did the story end?

[katherine]

I would never accept a push at Registerfly.com

[Yum]

I see Orn.com listed for sale at RL.com
So,i 'd like to tell the domainers.It is a stupid name.

---------- Post added at 09:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 AM ----------

I think it is a domain laundry.

---------- Post added at 09:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:46 AM ----------

Btw,if you got scammed before,what will happen once you see the name again?

[DomainsInc]

Some russian guy owned in 2006 so im not surprised. Then a domainer bought it from him from the looks of it. Not sure how he didn't get scammed on that one though. Then it goes into digipawns hands and then into Latonas name. While I understand you got ripped by someone down the line it really has no relevence on who has the name and what they are doing with it now.

[Yum]

Some russian guy owned in 2006 so im not surprised. Then a domainer bought it from him from the looks of it. Not sure how he didn't get scammed on that one though. Then it goes into digipawns hands and then into Latonas name. While I understand you got ripped by someone down the line it really has no relevence on who has the name and what they are doing with it now.

So it is a Domain Laundry.From black to white.

[Credit]

What the hell is a domain laundry? I don't want to get washed up in one of these.

[Yum]

What the hell is a domain laundry? I don't want to get washed up in one of these.

As known,the seller cannot sell it in public.He sold it in secret.The black name becomes white.Not the present owner but the previous seller.

[GUA]

So Rick has bought a name which was stolen at some point in its history?

At the end of the day, you and the original owenr had ample time to bring this up.. over 3 years in fact. You will not recover your money, nor will the owner get his domain back.

Its tough luck this time im afraid.

[DomainsInc]

So Rick has bought a name which was stolen at some point in its history?

At the end of the day, you and the original owenr had ample time to bring this up.. over 3 years in fact. You will not recover your money, nor will the owner get his domain back.

Its tough luck this time im afraid.

Unfortunately this shows that you really can get away with stealing domains sometimes.

[Tim Schoon]

Unfortunately this shows that you really can get away with stealing domains sometimes.

True, it teaches us a lesson tho, only use trustworthy registrars.

[Cartoonz]

So Rick has bought a name which was stolen at some point in its history?

At the end of the day, you and the original owenr had ample time to bring this up.. over 3 years in fact. You will not recover your money, nor will the owner get his domain back.

Its tough luck this time im afraid.

Yum's your other thread got closed because of the libelous comments he made on this same issue...

The evidence shows that it was the supposed thief that Yum had a bad experience with.
The only reason Yum lost the name is that the real owner got it back.
So WTF is the issue now about this name somehow being "laundered" or "tainted" huh?

---------- Post added at 04:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:39 PM ----------

Unfortunately this shows that you really can get away with stealing domains sometimes.

--sigh--- no, it actually shows the exact opposite. look at the facts again, Yum dealt with a thief, the real owner recovered the name.

For all we know, Yum was all part of the theft. Wow.. bet that feels good to see in print, huh?

[GUA]

Yum's your other thread got closed because of the libelous comments he made on this same issue...

The evidence shows that it was the supposed thief that Yum had a bad experience with.
The only reason Yum lost the name is that the real owner got it back.
So WTF is the issue now about this name somehow being "laundered" or "tainted" huh?

---------- Post added at 04:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:39 PM ----------



--sigh--- no, it actually shows the exact opposite. look at the facts again, Yum dealt with a thief, the real owner recovered the name.

For all we know, Yum was all part of the theft. Wow.. bet that feels good to see in print, huh?

To clarify, no facts were presented with the post/case.

It was understood by the phrasing of 'Yum's message that the original owner did not get it back.

None the less, it seems apparent that this name IS NOT stolen, or tainted in anyway.

Best of luck Rick.

[Yum]

Yes,GUA
This name is not stolen.Because he pushed back again 3-4 times.
So i call regfly and ask WHY.

[TheLegendaryJP]

Wow...