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| Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Mark Last Online: 09-06-2009 05:46 PM iTrader: (5) Join Date: Apr 2008
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DNF$: 165 Location: Jasper, Alberta
Country: | Hi, I have been reading threads here and at other forums over the past couple of years about Paypal always taking the side of scammers due to their policy of "non-tangible" items, and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of anybody taking Paypal to court? After all, ownership of domains is verified by the registrar, so IMHO, if you own a domain, it is your legal property. |
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| Last Online: Yesterday 04:58 PM iTrader: (26) Join Date: Dec 2004
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Country: | Oh, you got me excited. I thought based upon your title that you were actually reporting on a case where paypal was taken to court. Too bad I missed the question mark! |
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| DNF Member Last Online: Yesterday 05:33 PM iTrader: (46) Join Date: Jan 2007
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Country: | Only problem with taking them to court is how much it would cost,,, and what are you trying to recover ... you would have to weight it out. It would be good to set a standard case but... I don't have the bucks to tangle with Paypal, and Im sure in those contracts we agreed too that we didnt read there is a lot of fine print. JMO
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| N00B @ Learning Name: Albert Tai Last Online: 11-15-2009 06:36 PM iTrader: (13) Join Date: Feb 2009
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Ebay has been sued already 2-3 times this year and lost the 2 times. They had to pay millions. People were selling fake brands on ebay and then the buyer sued ebay. As ebay was the broker they had responsiblities. Mhmmmmmm paypal is ebay's so someone should sue them.Cost alot though.
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| DNF Addict Name: Ron Bennett Last Online: 07-14-2009 02:31 PM iTrader: (26) Join Date: Oct 2003
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DNF$: 7,978 Location: Wyomissing, PA
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On a related note, some domainers who sell via PayPal, will send the buyer the login / transfer details by postal mail as per PayPal / eBay SPP guidelines (delivery confirmation for under $250; signature confirmation $250+) to the delivery address shown on the "Ship To" screen. There a lot to SPP, and it keeps changing - in general, eBay transactions seem to afford more protection to both buyer and seller; more countries covered. Rambling on, but in a nutshell, some domainers will send the login / transfer info via regular mail, which in a dispute becomes the tangible item, which is typically covered - no guarantee this approach will work in one's favor in a dispute, but it has for some domainers. Quote:
Even though one may have a Deed to their home, that doesn't mean the person necessarily owns it free and clear - and hence the need (often required by mortgage lenders) to research ownership, and insure against the unlikely, but possible threat of another person claiming ownership, disputing boundaries, etc of the property sometime in the future. Point is that registrars often have no way to truly verify ownership, and related issues (ie. TMs), of a domain, in particular, for domains that have existed for awhile... Registrars simply register domains - they generally don't take responsibility for verifying ownership; absolve themselves of such responsibilty and leave it to the parties to deal with the problem on their own via negotiation, mediation, litigation, udrp, etc. Ron
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| CrossLogix.com Last Online: Yesterday 09:24 PM iTrader: (65) Join Date: Mar 2006
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DNF$: 2,183 Location: Matthews, NC. U | Don't use it with someone you don't know. In the beginning, Paypal was meant for easy way to send and receive money between friends and families, I think.
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| N00B @ Learning Name: Albert Tai Last Online: 11-15-2009 06:36 PM iTrader: (13) Join Date: Feb 2009
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And try to pay in small bits if the person lets you. This way if you do get scammed it's not alot of money. Regards, Al
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| Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Mark Last Online: 09-06-2009 05:46 PM iTrader: (5) Join Date: Apr 2008
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DNF$: 165 Location: Jasper, Alberta
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I live in a National Park and at even owning a home here does not stop the government from seizing our land and property (It's only been done once in the past 40 years) That is the deal we sign that it is a "possibility" when you purchase here! Granted though, they would have to have a damn good reason, but they can. As for paying with Paypal for domains, I was scammed once last year and I am a hell of a lot more careful when selling now. It's just a shame that there are sooooo many scamming, freak bastards out there that add worry to hard working people that are only trying to make an honest living. | |
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| Exclusive Lifetime Member | It's high time paypal introduces domain escrow for small amounts like moneybookers. Also they need to stop holding accounts hostage over small amounts like 10$ or so.(It's a pain to email them,everytime - The only reason why i don't accept paypal for small transactions.) OR they could atleast open up support centres in all the big countries they serve. |
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| Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 04:18 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003
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Country: | Nobody actually 'owns' domains per se. It's like a tenancy as opposed to a freehold.
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| Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 04:18 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003
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DNF$: 5,893 Location: Exeter, UK
Country: | Interestingly, the paypalsucks.com forum has been dead for a while -- no posts for a couple of months or more -- strange?
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| Name: Dale Hubbard Last Online: Yesterday 04:18 PM iTrader: (45) Join Date: Jan 2003
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DNF$: 5,893 Location: Exeter, UK
Country: | PayPal to a forum as like boiling water to a chocolate teapot.
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| CrossLogix.com Last Online: Yesterday 09:24 PM iTrader: (65) Join Date: Mar 2006
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DNF$: 2,183 Location: Matthews, NC. U | Why would Paypal want anyone on Forums? They are one of the most successful online business without it whether you like it or not ![]()
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