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**haythemk** · 10-18-2007, 12:32 PM

EVeryone beware of Johnvassalo... Fraud alert

**tonyfloyd** · 10-18-2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haythemk

EVeryone beware of Johnvassalo... Fraud alert

?? What kind of fraud?? What happened??

**Doc Com** · 10-18-2007, 12:36 PM

Fraud??? On this forum???

Not a chance.

**biggedon** · 10-18-2007, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haythemk

EVeryone beware of Johnvassalo... Fraud alert

Don't accuse anyone of fraud, unless you can provide proof.

**haythemk** · 10-18-2007, 01:00 PM

All the evidence has been sent JOhnn He will be posting shortly... He purchased a domain, sent a money via paypal.. As I was going to push the domain, paypal put the money on hold, and send the transaction could be unauthorized and needed to be investigated. I relayed the info to the buyer, and he said release the domain, and then I will release the funds... I then contacted Johnn about the transaction, and he told me not to continue with transaction, and to forward transcript of transaction.. Do you need any more Biggie?

He tried to buy EZX.net from me yesterday at about 5:15 pm.. Payment was made to my pay pal shortly after... Within 15 minutes later Pay Pal put a hold on the payment saying it is unauthorized.. I called payment to figure out what was going, they said they were waiting to get in conatact with the buyer beacuse in their system it shows that this wan an unauthorized payment..

**Johnn** · 10-18-2007, 01:04 PM

haythemk,

Please provide the details:
- The domain name
- Date & time of the negotiation/Offer
- Details of the dispute: no-payment, fraud payment, etc....

I received email from haythemk but he needs to provide the details here and let hear what Johnvassalo has to say.

We will take action once we have the evidence.

Thanks,
John

**EG.domains** · 10-18-2007, 01:08 PM

Banned: johnvassallo · 10-18-2007, 01:18 PM

I dont understand , I have paid the domain for my part all have passed. For what reasons it has hold I do not know.

**Johnn** · 10-18-2007, 01:18 PM

PM sent to Johnvassalo and invite him to explain the situation.

Banned: johnvassallo · 10-18-2007, 01:34 PM

http://www.dnforum.com/post8-post-1281502.html

**DNcom** · 10-18-2007, 01:43 PM

Waiting to see the result..

**karter9977** · 10-18-2007, 02:24 PM

John,

I sent you a PM.

Now...

Let me clear this up a bit. Haythemk is selling domains he currently doesnt not own. As you can see by the Whois info he doesnt own them. I made some contacts and this a response from one of those contacts.

"Yes, those are FRAUDULENT listings. Do not buy.

He "won" the domains on SnapNames, but has not yet paid for them.

He is trying to sell the domains before he actually owns them, in order to pay for them, and make a profit, all without any investment.

We are talking with the management at SnapNames now, and they will be throwing him off SnapNames today.

Thanks,"

**Johnn** · 10-18-2007, 02:40 PM

haythemk,

Care to explain?

**elivate** · 10-18-2007, 02:41 PM

So a potential fraudster starts a post warning us about another potential fraudster, perhaps to take the focus off of himself? the plot thickens...

**GUA** · 10-18-2007, 02:43 PM

Guys I am making a deal with john atm.
I asked to go through escrow which he was happy to do. I am not saying he is, or is not legit, but we will see.

**Acro** · 10-18-2007, 02:47 PM

Are moderators able to deliver warnings and issue bans?

I was told to notify Adam on two incidents instead. However, from my understanding Adam is at TRAFFIC and even if he weren't, he's a busy man.

I need some resolution with two issues please.

**haythemk** · 10-18-2007, 02:54 PM

Yeah, I won the auctions on Snap Names... My payments were declined, because my credit card have limits on online spending, I didnt know that at the time... I was selling them for the same price I won them and give people the right to have first position in the auction... I just got off the phone with jeremy at Snapnames and he said what I have to do is, Send a wire transfer... It is in process. I can forwad any emails.

**GUA** · 10-18-2007, 03:03 PM

SO haythemk, all I want to know is, is john a scammer, or not and if so why?

**haythemk** · 10-18-2007, 03:08 PM

By what paypal is telling me the payment was unauthorized.

If I knew what I was doing was wrong, then why would put a thread up... I just misunderstood what and what I couldnt do..

**PRED** · 10-18-2007, 03:24 PM

serious business, but turned into soap opera, lol

find out who's guilty, next week!

nb: Mods and Adam , i'm still waiting to hear back on that fraudster who didnt sell emthose 3 names. Thread reported 3 times, adam even posted in thread. Zilch done dudes.

10-18-2007, 12:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
haythemk Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-17-2009 06:31 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 122 DNF$: 100 Location: blaine	Possible Fraud on our Forum, Beware!!! EVeryone beware of Johnvassalo... Fraud alert

10-18-2007, 12:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Doc Com Dances With Dogs Name: info [@] gerry.mobi Last Online: Today 02:34 AM iTrader: (73) Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 10,317 DNF$: 25,569 Country:	Fraud??? On this forum??? Not a chance. __________________ Conservative With A Conscience

10-18-2007, 01:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
haythemk Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-17-2009 06:31 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 122 DNF$: 100 Location: blaine	All the evidence has been sent JOhnn He will be posting shortly... He purchased a domain, sent a money via paypal.. As I was going to push the domain, paypal put the money on hold, and send the transaction could be unauthorized and needed to be investigated. I relayed the info to the buyer, and he said release the domain, and then I will release the funds... I then contacted Johnn about the transaction, and he told me not to continue with transaction, and to forward transcript of transaction.. Do you need any more Biggie? He tried to buy EZX.net from me yesterday at about 5:15 pm.. Payment was made to my pay pal shortly after... Within 15 minutes later Pay Pal put a hold on the payment saying it is unauthorized.. I called payment to figure out what was going, they said they were waiting to get in conatact with the buyer beacuse in their system it shows that this wan an unauthorized payment.. Last edited by haythemk; 10-18-2007 at 01:11 PM..

10-18-2007, 01:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Johnn NameIntell.com Last Online: Today 07:22 AM iTrader: (326) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,608 DNF$: 41,853 Location: Pennsylvania Country:	haythemk, Please provide the details: - The domain name - Date & time of the negotiation/Offer - Details of the dispute: no-payment, fraud payment, etc.... I received email from haythemk but he needs to provide the details here and let hear what Johnvassalo has to say. We will take action once we have the evidence. Thanks, John __________________ EnameMart.com - Names For Sale - It's easy as 1-2-3 Click - Select - Send Offer! TechSupportBoard.com HotWebTools.com Last edited by Johnn; 10-18-2007 at 02:36 PM..

10-18-2007, 01:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
EG.domains GenericDomainMarket.com Name: Sameh Last Online: 10-28-2009 09:37 AM iTrader: (76) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,421 DNF$: 308	.. __________________ oaio.com & disappears.com for sale! Generic & Premium Domains Last edited by EG.domains; 10-19-2007 at 03:14 AM..

10-18-2007, 01:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
Banned: johnvassallo Account Terminated Last Online: 02-11-2008 04:14 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29 DNF$: 392 Location: Cpng Country:	I dont understand , I have paid the domain for my part all have passed. For what reasons it has hold I do not know.

10-18-2007, 01:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Johnn NameIntell.com Last Online: Today 07:22 AM iTrader: (326) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,608 DNF$: 41,853 Location: Pennsylvania Country:	PM sent to Johnvassalo and invite him to explain the situation. __________________ EnameMart.com - Names For Sale - It's easy as 1-2-3 Click - Select - Send Offer! TechSupportBoard.com HotWebTools.com

10-18-2007, 01:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
Banned: johnvassallo Account Terminated Last Online: 02-11-2008 04:14 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 29 DNF$: 392 Location: Cpng Country:	http://www.dnforum.com/post8-post-1281502.html

10-18-2007, 01:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
DNcom Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 04-21-2009 11:48 AM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 51 DNF$: 230 Location: USA Country:	Waiting to see the result.. __________________ SeekVirgin.com\|MythTour.com\|FloridGirl.com\|FloridClub.com LoanLoan.us\|NipponDomain.com\|NipponHouse.com\|Nippo nProperty.com RealtyTrading.net\|BathingBeauty.us\| Enjoying Life With Friends!

10-18-2007, 02:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
karter9977 DNF Regular Name: Steven McDonald Last Online: Yesterday 09:09 PM iTrader: (26) Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 578 DNF$: 1,595 Location: Connecticut Country:	John, I sent you a PM. Now... Let me clear this up a bit. Haythemk is selling domains he currently doesnt not own. As you can see by the Whois info he doesnt own them. I made some contacts and this a response from one of those contacts. "Yes, those are FRAUDULENT listings. Do not buy. He "won" the domains on SnapNames, but has not yet paid for them. He is trying to sell the domains before he actually owns them, in order to pay for them, and make a profit, all without any investment. We are talking with the management at SnapNames now, and they will be throwing him off SnapNames today. Thanks," Last edited by karter9977; 10-18-2007 at 02:34 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-18-2007, 02:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
Johnn NameIntell.com Last Online: Today 07:22 AM iTrader: (326) Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11,608 DNF$: 41,853 Location: Pennsylvania Country:	haythemk, Care to explain? __________________ EnameMart.com - Names For Sale - It's easy as 1-2-3 Click - Select - Send Offer! TechSupportBoard.com HotWebTools.com

10-18-2007, 02:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
elivate Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Peter Last Online: Today 08:01 AM iTrader: (30) Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,571 DNF$: 0 Location: Canada Country:	So a potential fraudster starts a post warning us about another potential fraudster, perhaps to take the focus off of himself? the plot thickens...

10-18-2007, 02:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
GUA Exclusive Lifetime Member Name: Thomas Clowes Last Online: Today 08:21 AM iTrader: (55) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,475 DNF$: 6,838 Location: UK Country:	Guys I am making a deal with john atm. I asked to go through escrow which he was happy to do. I am not saying he is, or is not legit, but we will see. __________________ Read my blog, use my domain tools (Domain Portfolio Manger, Whois History, Domainer Directory and More) http://GUA.com

10-18-2007, 02:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
Acro Bloody lovely Last Online: Yesterday 02:57 AM iTrader: (394) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 23,904 DNF$: 4,079 Location: USA Country:	Are moderators able to deliver warnings and issue bans? I was told to notify Adam on two incidents instead. However, from my understanding Adam is at TRAFFIC and even if he weren't, he's a busy man. I need some resolution with two issues please. __________________ DomainGang.com - Domainers' Most Awesome News Source Acroplex - Web & Graphics Acro.net - My Blog My Countdown Counting down to: Snapnames rebate hitting my mailbox 77 days 14 hours 45 minutes

10-18-2007, 02:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
haythemk Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-17-2009 06:31 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 122 DNF$: 100 Location: blaine	Yeah, I won the auctions on Snap Names... My payments were declined, because my credit card have limits on online spending, I didnt know that at the time... I was selling them for the same price I won them and give people the right to have first position in the auction... I just got off the phone with jeremy at Snapnames and he said what I have to do is, Send a wire transfer... It is in process. I can forwad any emails.

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10-18-2007, 03:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
GUA Exclusive Lifetime Member Name: Thomas Clowes Last Online: Today 08:21 AM iTrader: (55) Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,475 DNF$: 6,838 Location: UK Country:	SO haythemk, all I want to know is, is john a scammer, or not and if so why? __________________ Read my blog, use my domain tools (Domain Portfolio Manger, Whois History, Domainer Directory and More) http://GUA.com

10-18-2007, 03:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
haythemk Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-17-2009 06:31 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 122 DNF$: 100 Location: blaine	By what paypal is telling me the payment was unauthorized. If I knew what I was doing was wrong, then why would put a thread up... I just misunderstood what and what I couldnt do.. Last edited by haythemk; 10-18-2007 at 03:12 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

10-18-2007, 03:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
PRED Last Online: Yesterday 05:20 PM iTrader: (118) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,968 DNF$: 1,085 Country:	serious business, but turned into soap opera, lol find out who's guilty, next week! nb: Mods and Adam , i'm still waiting to hear back on that fraudster who didnt sell emthose 3 names. Thread reported 3 times, adam even posted in thread. Zilch done dudes. __________________ For Sale for a Limited Time. Offers via PM

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