Register.com Yanked My Name!

**Fearless** · 11-03-2003, 08:12 AM

Register.com yanked my locked domain name moutaindew.com from my Enom account. I was running my name checker and discovered this. I saw this before but thought it was a fluke. No telling what else I lost. This comes after Register.com recently put BuyPC.com into the UDRP winner's name even though a court case was keeping it on hold. WTF is going on?

**mole** · 11-03-2003, 09:10 AM

You mean mountaindew.com, greg? Do you check your email for c&ds, or does your spam killer wipe it all away into digital wasteland

**mole** · 11-03-2003, 09:13 AM

btw... interesting you mentioned Register.com yanking your name away.

I had a .co.uk suddenly tagged to Register.com from eNom without my knowledge a few weeks ago. Had to get some internal help to reverse it back to eNom as tag holder.

It's okay if you only have a few names to monitor like me. If you have hundreds, good luck.

**Fearless** · 11-03-2003, 09:16 AM

It's www.moutaindew.com. The name servers are still mine. No emails about ownership of this name.

**mole** · 11-03-2003, 09:27 AM

Address lookup
canonical name moutaindew.com.
aliases
addresses 65.17.199.240

Domain Whois record
Querying whois.internic.net with "dom moutaindew.com"...

Whois server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
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for detailed information.

Domain Name: MOUTAINDEW.COM
Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.register.com
Referral URL: http://www.register.com
Name Server: NS.MSSI.COM
Name Server: NS2.MSSI.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 27-mar-2003
Creation Date: 11-jul-2001
Expiration Date: 11-jul-2005

>>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 06:21:30 EST <<<

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currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration
date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring
registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to
view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.

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Querying whois.register.com with "moutaindew.com"...

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Organization:
PepsiCo, Inc
Domain Name Administrator Law Department
700 Anderson Hill Road
Purchase, NY 10577
US
Phone: 914 253 2000
Fax..: 914 253 3123
Email: domain.billing@PBSG.COM

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: MOUTAINDEW.COM

Created on..............: Wed, Jul 11, 2001
Expires on..............: Mon, Jul 11, 2005
Record last updated on..: Fri, Jul 25, 2003

Administrative Contact:
Pepsi Co, Inc
Domain Name Administrator Law Department
700 Anderson Hill Road
Purchase, NY 10577
US
Phone: 914-253-2000
Fax..: 914-253-3123
Email: domain.billing@PBSG.COM

Technical Contact:
PepsiCo, Inc.
PBSG Net IP Services
5600 Headquarters
PLANO, TX 75024
US
Phone: 914-253-2000
Fax..: 914-253-3123
Email: ExternalDNSRequests@pbsg.com

Zone Contact:
PepsiCo, Inc.
PBSG Net IP Services
5600 Headquarters
PLANO, TX 75204
US
Phone: 914-253-2000
Fax..: 914-253-3123
Email: ExternalDNSRequests@pbsg.com

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.MSSI.COM 66.70.91.109
NS2.MSSI.COM 66.70.91.110

Register your domain name at http://www.register.com

Network Whois record
Querying whois.arin.net with "65.17.199.240"...

OrgName: DataPipe
OrgID: DATAPI-2
Address: 80 River Street, 5th Floor
City: Hoboken
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 07030
Country: US

NetRange: 65.17.192.0 - 65.17.223.255
CIDR: 65.17.192.0/19
NetName: DATAPIPE-NETBLK5
NetHandle: NET-65-17-192-0-1
Parent: NET-65-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS1.DATAPIPE.NET
NameServer: NS2.DATAPIPE.NET
NameServer: NS3.DATAPIPE.NET
NameServer: NS4.DATAPIPE.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2003-07-18
Updated: 2003-07-18

TechHandle: DH1029-ARIN
TechName: DataPipe Hostmaster
TechPhone: +1-201-792-1918
TechEmail: hostmaster@datapipe.com

OrgTechHandle: DH1029-ARIN
OrgTechName: DataPipe Hostmaster
OrgTechPhone: +1-201-792-1918
OrgTechEmail: hostmaster@datapipe.com

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-11-02 19:15
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

DNS records
name class type data time to live
moutaindew.com IN NS ns.mssi.com 86400s (1d)
moutaindew.com IN NS ns2.mssi.com 86400s (1d)
moutaindew.com IN A 65.17.199.240 7200s (2h)
moutaindew.com IN MX preference: 10
exchange: networksolutions.com
7200s (2h)
moutaindew.com IN SOA server: ns.mssi.com
email: gregr@mssi.com
serial: 984527312
refresh: 3600
retry: 900
expire: 632000
minimum ttl: 7200
7200s (2h)
199.17.65.in-addr.arpa IN SOA server: ns1.datapipe.net
email: hostmaster@datapipe.net
serial: 2003091000
refresh: 10800
retry: 3600
expire: 604800
minimum ttl: 14400
14400s (4h)

Service scan
FTP - 21 Error: Connection refused
SMTP - 25 Error: Connection refused
HTTP - 80 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:26:12 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux)
Accept-Ranges: bytes
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.2.2
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

POP3 - 110 Error: Connection refused
NNTP - 119 Error: Connection refused

Traceroute
Tracing route to moutaindew.com [65.17.199.240]

hop rtt rtt rtt ip address fully qualified domain name
1 0 0 0 216.46.228.241 port-216-3073265-dal16509b-drtn.devices.datareturn.com
2 0 0 0 64.29.192.237 daa.g901.disb.datareturn.com
3 0 0 10 64.29.192.226 daa.g921.ispb.datareturn.com
4 0 0 0 209.246.152.201 gigabitethernet3-0-101.ipcolo2.dallas1.level3.net
5 0 0 0 209.244.15.105 gigabitethernet11-1.core1.dallas1.level3.net
6 0 0 0 209.247.10.105 so-4-0-0.bbr2.dallas1.level3.net
7 40 40 40 64.159.3.253 unknown.level3.net
8 40 41 40 64.159.17.67 gige6-1.ipcolo1.newyork1.level3.net
9 40 40 30 209.244.12.182 unknown.level3.net
10 40 40 40 64.156.0.30 core1.ewr.datapipe.net
11 40 40 40 64.106.128.6 vlan11.aggr2.ewr.datapipe.net
12 40 30 30 65.17.199.240

Trace complete

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**mole** · 11-03-2003, 09:29 AM

Hmm.. Pepsico took back a mispelling. Must have got their lawyers on the case.

**DaddyHalbucks** · 11-04-2003, 08:53 PM

Another reason I don't like/ use Register.com!

**LewR** · 11-04-2003, 10:25 PM

Ah yes, no need for a legal process - just take whatever you want.

These companies were too freaking stupid to reg the names in the first place - but now want the courts and ICAAN to give them all they were too stupid not to "dew".

I think the whole game should be changed to "First come, First served" and let the rest cry in their milk.

Bitter? Not me.....LOL

**Fearless** · 11-05-2003, 12:02 PM

Enom Response:

--- Agent Reply: Brad Bailey - 11/5/2003 9:53 AM ---

This domain name lokks to have been transferred away from eNom to Register.com. I have emailed my contact with Register.com in order to find out who requested the transfer as well as who approved it.

**Fearless** · 11-05-2003, 05:42 PM

Now Enom is jerking me around. Telling me it was never registered with them.

MESSAGES

--- Your Original Message - 11/3/2003 5:55 AM ---

How did my name moutaindew.com get yanked from my account?

--- Agent Reply: Brad Bailey - 11/5/2003 9:53 AM ---

This domain name lokks to have been transferred away from eNom to Register.com. I have emailed my contact with Register.com in order to find out who requested the transfer as well as who approved it.

--- Your Reply - 11/5/2003 10:02 AM ---

The name was locked. It should not have been possible to transfer. I never received any correspondence regarding this name. If I had not checked whois, I would never have known this.

--- Agent Reply: Brad Bailey - 11/5/2003 1:25 PM ---

I cannot tell who removed the lock and there are no comments explaining why the lock was removed so I cannot verify if the lock was removed by an eNom admin. Typically if we remove a lock we will first require the customer to contact the reseller. If they do not receive a response from the reseller, we will remove a lock ONLY if the request comes from the listed registrant contact. I was able to contact Register.com concerning this transfer and they were able to very that the domain was transferred in error. The domain has been transferred back to eNom and will be added to your account shortly.

--- Agent Reply: Brad Bailey - 11/5/2003 3:28 PM ---

This was an error. Our database admin as well as the global registry confirm that this domain name has never been registered with eNom. It was created through Register.com and is being transferred back.

**bidawinner** · 11-05-2003, 06:05 PM

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mountain%20dew

Illegally distilled corn liquor

The American HeritageÂ® Dictionary

**Fearless** · 11-05-2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by bidawinner
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mountain%20dew

Illegally distilled corn liquor

The American HeritageÂ® Dictionary

This is moutain dew. The legal version. :-D

**bidawinner** · 11-05-2003, 06:12 PM

Looks like ENOM has gone the way of all the others..

Here and now everyone ought to boycott them,..very simple people WE decide if ENOM survives..

Move you names out en-masse ..

No need for emotional outburst .. just start moving your names out...let Pepsico support ENOM... OH wait a second Pepsico uses register.com .. Sheeeet ENOM is going to be up a creek

**bidawinner** · 11-05-2003, 06:31 PM

Ok Greg..I have vented all I can for you..

Please send cash to me@righthere.com

**hollayo** · 11-07-2003, 06:09 AM

no time for me to read it all but i had a generic really good yanked from one of my ccounts (the reason i got into the biz) from namescout and put into register.com

After countless sleepless nights and ontacting everyone at register.om i finally got it back...

**DaddyHalbucks** · 11-07-2003, 10:39 AM

Yup, eNom sucks too.

**jberryhill** · 11-07-2003, 01:52 PM

Enom is also bottom-feeding along with its reseller "Domain Registry of America"

www.domainjacking.com

**seeker** · 11-07-2003, 02:57 PM

this is mind baffling!
How on earth can they do that? It is obviously spelled different than mountain dew. What court would allow them to do that, and If there was no court decision, shouldnt someone be getting sued big time??

It makes one loose faith (well, whats left of it) in the domain business.

**Domagon** · 11-07-2003, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by Gregr
Now Enom is jerking me around. Telling me it was never registered with them.

... snipped ...
--- Agent Reply: Brad Bailey - 11/5/2003 3:28 PM ---

This was an error. Our database admin as well as the global registry confirm that this domain name has never been registered with eNom. It was created through Register.com and is being transferred back.

If you look at the expiration date at the registry, it appears two additional years have been added on at the registry level since you first posted this thread...now expires in 2007 instead of 2005.

Do you know what the expiration year was prior to March-27-2003?

Do you have proof of payment for the domain for registration to July-11-2004? If you didn't renew it in July of this year (unless you registered it for 3 years initially or 2 years on renewal), then it's possible Enom somehow let it go...and while such actions are very shady, registrars have much latitude in how they conduct business.

If you can prove payment to Enom, then you may have some options...but they'll likely cost you much time and money...

And even assuming you get it back, then there's a good chance Pepsi will simply file a UDRP (I could find none currently for the domain)...and then you'd likely lose the domain name anyways, unless here again you are willing to spend even more time and even more money :(

Ron