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    Sold a domain on eBay buyer used stolen PayPal account ...

    Hey,

    I recently sold a 4 letter .com on eBay last night. The guy paid by PayPal, all was well, I sent the domain name, and then he did an 'unauthorized transaction' complaint and a chargeback. It looks to me that the buyer was using a stolen eBay and Paypal account. The domain now resides under an address in Turkey (and not Canada which was the address of the eBay and Paypal account).

    I guess its the oldest trick in the book and I've fallen for it due to no proper Escrow. The domain is still with Godaddy and has not moved registrars.

    Have I just lost the name 100%? Anything I can bother to try?

    Thanks

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    Do you have screenshots?
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    Of what exactly?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymic View Post
    The domain is still with Godaddy and has not moved registrars.
    Unfortunately that doesn't help you much. AFAIK, GoDaddy won't do anything if you have pushed the domain yourself. They can take action only in the case your GoDaddy account is hacked and domain stolen.

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    Anyone fancy hacking my account then? You can transfer a couple of my crap names to make it look real.

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    Screenshots of the paypal transaction, any email correspondence etc.
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    Domain name: LFFF.com
    Ebay auction: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=260445361955
    Winning bidder: fingerz20
    Email: fingerz20@hotmail.com
    Correspondence: 1 | 2 | 3

    Paypal receipt: http://i29.tinypic.com/2dwdvyf.jpg
    Amount (pending): $511.00 USD
    Transaction ID: 6TA61427R1013513U
    Buyer's Email: antiflag202@hotmail.com
    Shipping Details
    Address:
    3739 Bloomington Crescent
    1932 Chemin de St-Jean
    Mississauga, Canada

    Chargeback/unauthorized claim: http://i32.tinypic.com/34ovksx.jpg

    New owner: http://whois.sc/lfff.com
    Jack Fingerz
    jamal,45 street
    Istanbul, 322400
    Turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by zymic View Post

    New owner: http://whois.sc/lfff.com
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    Istanbul, 322400
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    You can report it because it uses fake info on the whois. That won't help you directly though, but the thief will have hard times.

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    I would contact GoDaddy with this information, from what I can see, this is the only chance you will have of claiming your name back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayB View Post
    I would contact GoDaddy with this information, from what I can see, this is the only chance you will have of claiming your name back.
    Exactly - if its still with them you have a far better chance at getting it back than if you didn't.

    Don't email, don't use a web forum, CALL THEM. People like to day you can't get the domain back but if you call them, that's the worst that'll happen leaving you where you are now - so at least it's an attempt to get it back.

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    I did send them an email, because it is more documented and let me paste links and details. I will phone them now but I've always assumed they don't help what so ever.

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    Originally Posted by zymic
    Anyone fancy hacking my account then? You can transfer a couple of my crap names to make it look real.
    Also, The case you are trying to resolve, is fraud. Making posts like this is defiantly not going to help. Just a word of warning
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    Yes, you should try calling them and explain the situation. You have nothing to lose.

    Please keep us informed, I would love to see your domain back.

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    I guess jokes on the internet are not allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayB View Post
    Also, The case you are trying to resolve, is fraud. Making posts like this is defiantly not going to help. Just a word of warning
    That should be taken as a joke

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    I respect that, but as GoDaddy employees are on this board, seeing such a comment, is not likely to help your case, even if it is in jest.

    Again, just my 2 cents, hope you get your name back, keep us posted.
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    Called and the guy said "Best thing to do is to email undo@godaddy.com". Doing that now.

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    Thanks for the help guys, I have to go out and will update you all tonight if I get a response.

    Are the any tips for eBay sellers to prevent this from happening? I have another domain mmmh.com for sale.

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    I believe if you accept payment via PayPal MassPay, its harder to reverse the payment. I will look into this for you.

    Jay

    I found this article on DotWeekly, explains 'MassPay' quite well.

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