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| DNF Addict Name: Robert Last Online: 11-02-2009 12:00 AM iTrader: (58) Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,736
DNF$: 1,283 Location: Montreal
Country: | Stolen CC.com in my posession - Escrow.com, Netsol and FBI involved Hey everyone so many months back I bought a CC.com for 10,000$, from a domain broker who now I know is a thief. The funny thing is, this thief was actually the whois email of a very good LLL.com (a company), so I had no idea trusting the seller at the time. I went through escrow.com, sent the payment, and when it came time for transfer (at netsol), the domain was under a "temporary lock". I called netsol to see whats up with the domain, ask if it's stolen, and the rep assured me that everything was fine with the domain, and the lock was there simply because of protection for the account. The rep then offered to merge the account in which the CC.com was and my account, and then she did. So now I have the domain name in my netsol account. Many weeks after I purchased the name, Netsol calls me up telling me that the domain I have is stolen, and the previous owner wants it back. I immediately tell them that as I would be more than happy to return this (25k+) CC.com as long as I get my 10,000$ back. (fair enough, right?) I also assured netsol that I won't be transfering the domain out, and that I am there for their full cooperation if they needed my help for anything. I forwarded them all emails and did everything they asked. So now, NetSol is calling me up telling me how I am partially to blame because I did not investigate this locked status (me calling and explicitly making sure everything is fine with the domain name wasn't enough obviously). They also tell me to speak to Escrow to see how I can get my money back. Turns out Escrow can't get my money back without the bank owner's (the hijacker's) consent, which we all know we aren't getting. Now the situation is that Netsol called the FBI about the situation, and the FBI will contact escrow asking for the bank information of the hijacker. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ End of story Netsol is obviously to blame here: allowing account to be hacked, allowing domain to be transfered, telling me everything is good with the domain name... What do I do? Do I hire a lawyer? Does it look like I will be taking a 10,000$ hit? It is also important to note that I am a Canadian, so what can the FBI possibly do for me? Help a friend out! |
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| Making Everything Click Name: Chris Last Online: Today 04:23 PM iTrader: (111) Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 9,402
DNF$: 15,330 Location: Dirty South
Country: | Unfortunately bro, plan on losing 10k and the name ;( Call John Berryhill, maybe he can offer you his services... http://www.johnberryhill.com |
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| Canadian Emcee Last Online: 03-09-2008 09:17 PM iTrader: (13) Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 857
DNF$: 2,106 Location: Ontario
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![]() Good luck bdjuf, I almost fell for it on another cc.com, same guy. | |
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| Domains Biatch! Last Online: Today 09:14 PM iTrader: (13) Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,150
DNF$: 12,243 Location: Nirvana
Country: | Make as much noise as you can about netsol's role in all this. If everything you said here is accurate it sounds like they are going to do everything they can to avoid any responsibility. |
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| Dn Guru© Name: 3ldo Thomas Last Online: Today 03:17 PM iTrader: (41) Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 552
DNF$: 538 Location: Neighbourhood | Robert,whois email on DVQ.com seems to be changed now to bobalan@sbcglobal.net. This is damn problem with netsol.try consulting with some lawyers.don't tell em the you will let it go for 10k IMO.coz,you invested the money for many months ago.
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| Name: Mike Pirie Last Online: 10-14-2009 09:41 AM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 622
DNF$: 494 Location: Canada
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They've got a record somewhere whether its on your file, that you called with detail or on the voice recording system.. never forget those "We may record your call for quality assurance blah blah blah" Having a good lawyer in your corner is always recommended, but pretty quickly youll have to decide whether its about principles or dollars - good lawyers cost .. Best of luck | |
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| DNF Member Name: Stephen Douglas Last Online: 11-10-2009 11:34 AM iTrader: (16) Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 465
DNF$: 2,276 Location: Sunny California
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1) You have a domain seller and buyer 2) You have a top three registrar controlling the transfer 3) You have the #1 domain escrow service (escrow.com) handling the deal 4) You paid five figures for the domain 5) The whole deal, which you entered into with good faith and followed the rules, has now set you up with a lunch date (more likely early breakfast) party with the Feds (U.S style! Freedom rules in our country! *cough*) I'd post this story on all the other forums too, but I'd try to contact DNjournal (sorry for the pressure, RJ) because they have the most visible power in the industry to get a story out and get good results from it. Plus RJ is a major figure for fairness in the domain industry. good luck bro. If you need some further guidance, don't hesitate to PM me.
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| Account Terminated Last Online: 06-19-2008 12:08 PM iTrader: (22) Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,891
DNF$: 12,649 Location: my home is where my bank account is
Country: | to add to this noise~ i have one of mine domains looked at netsol for almost two years and cant recover it as they say i need "first registrants" permission to cut long story short~ i would definitely sue them at the first suitable time........ i hope they are getting sued properly currently |
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| Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-09-2009 03:50 PM iTrader: (7) Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 139
DNF$: 526 Location: Moon | BDjuf - There are a number of posts in the warning forum on another board about the username Rosenbloom. Feel free to PM me if you want info on the url as i dont want to post about another forum in the thread. |
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| Account Terminated Last Online: 11-03-2008 08:30 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 115
DNF$: 4,542 Location: Lithuania
Country: | transfer name to joker.com as fast as you can because you can lose your money and domain . If you do not like this company just go to another europe or russian company. I suggesting you to transfer your domain to russian company because of law they not coop width vipo or fbi . If you need any assistance feel free to contact, but hurry up . Last edited by ernestjev; 03-01-2008 at 09:48 AM.. |
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| Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 09-04-2009 02:22 PM iTrader: (5) Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 724
DNF$: 1,631 Location: singapore | Quote:
at this point, i don't think netsol will let him transfer the name. | |
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| Canadian Emcee Last Online: 03-09-2008 09:17 PM iTrader: (13) Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 857
DNF$: 2,106 Location: Ontario
Country: | Yes but transferring the name makes him look like he is not willing to cooperate, right? If he knows he has stolen property he can't hide it, he has to "turn it in". He will have to take the thief or NetSol to court, and from the way it sounds, NetSol did a terrible job insuring both parties safety during the transaction. |
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| Account Terminated Last Online: 11-03-2008 08:30 AM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 115
DNF$: 4,542 Location: Lithuania
Country: | hm , but fbi takes this domain to previous owner. cc is width letters or width numbers ? Last edited by ernestjev; 03-01-2008 at 10:11 AM.. |
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