tomclowes- abusive blackmailer ~i haven't done deals with him ~ he left me neg fb !

[Banned: domain newbie]

tomcloves got angry and abusive, send me numerous abusive pm's , blackmailed that he will leave me neg fb if i wont sell him domains, which he did

(i have never agreed to sell him anything in the first place)

selling thread is here :

http://www.dnforum.com/f5/all-premiu...ad-278723.html

how to deal with these people ??

have all abusive pm's saved on request

[Devil Dog]

need to fund with $500 asap, so here is premium LLLL.com's, would like to sell two of those ~ all at GoDaddy~ newly renewed

This is how I interpret your post: You needed to sell 2 domains at $500, he offered 1k for 5, correct?

[Banned: domain newbie]

first pm from tomclowes was:

SGIR.COM
SGOG.COM
DNLN.COM

$550 for the 3.

SGIR.COM
SGOG.COm
LGPP.COM
GGPM.COM
DNLN.COM

$900 for the 5.

Instant payment. Valid 30 minutes.
Tom

(on which i replied: if you add 100$ to first deal, i will take it, or replace one of the domains with tlkv)

second pm from was

Not interested, BUT

SGIR.COM
SGOG.COm
LGPP.COM
GGPM.COM
DNLN.COM

Ill add $100 to this offer. $1,000 for the 5. Payment by paypal mass pay and thus no fees either. Valid 20 minutes. Instant payment/deal.

This is my final offer.
Thanks

then MC pm came out with

500$ offer for sgir and ggmp, which i took

after Tomeclowes went ahead with abusing and blackmailing

[GUA]

Matey,

I didnt blackmail, or abuse you. Do not lie!

I sent a PM to mediahound asking him to read the PM discussion and then remove your pointless and inaccurate TR.

You asked for $500 for 2 or 3 names. I offered $550 for 3 names. Deal...
Then MG cam on (although he is not in the wrong here in any way), didnt realise my PM offer, and offered $500 for 2. That was the better deal, you took it. Unproffesional, end of.

I assume by blackmail you mean I said that I would leave negative TR if you didnt fulfill your end of the transaction. That isnt blackmail. That is what any honest trade would say.

Accusing someone of blackmail and abuse is a very serious thing. I have given MH permission to read our PM discussion, and I feel a ban is in order here.
You simply can not excuse me of very serious crimes such as b;ackmail and abuse when I have done no such thing.

What is more, leaving retaliatory feedback simply because you got it for being a bad trader is simply immature.

[Devil Dog]

You asked for $500 for 2 or 3 names. I offered $550 for 3 names. Deal...
Then MG cam on (although he is not in the wrong here in any way), didnt realise my PM offer, and offered $500 for 2. That was the better deal, you took it. Unproffesional, end of.

Where did domain newbie say 2 or 3 names?

[Acro]

Just as I was wondering whatever happened to the Saturday night DNF flick

[GUA]

Where did domain newbie say 2 or 3 names?

In his 3rd post of his thread/in our PM discussion.

TBH I have no more to say on the matter. MediaHound has access to all the info the staff will need. He can sort this. I dont like being rude, so I am not going to say what I feel.

What I would say is what is happening to simple etiquette, and proffesionalism?
The number of scammers, the number of liers, the number of morons. It is just ridiculous.

[Banned: domain newbie]

Where did domain newbie say 2 or 3 names?

TC apparently made this up in his brain ~ yes i agree , Mediahound can read the pm

neither i agreed on anything with tomecloves, nether i posted any bin's

first blackmailing tomecloves pm :

On that basis I feel a negative TR is deserved if you are not open to sorting this.

I met your criterion, and on that basis you have broken a deal.
I will take the 5 for $1,250 (which is generous considering realisiticly you should only be getting $1k, OR 2 FOR $500.

That is extremely generous of ME given the situation.
I am not happy!

This is the last:

I was extremely generous, even when you went behind my back and 'accepted' a higher offer, I met it as I want the names. Otherwise I wouldnt be here.

As I mentioned you are not obliged, but forum etiquette would say as a proffessional you should honour the suggested, and implied deal.

I met the implied deal. $550 for 3. Realisitcally no deal with MG should take place as I met all the criterion, and importantly first.

I have the TR window open, and everything typed, but I dont want to click submit until I get a definitive answer.

Deal (good) OR No Deal (neg TR)?

Thanks

and all in between.., you decide ~

[GUA]

domain_newbie, I am off to bed as it is the early hours here in the UK.
I dont see why you have gone to the effort of posting this thread. I PM'd MH, and told you. He will sort it. I am confident I am right, you are wrong. He will decide.

Perhaps you are trying to reassure yourself by posting half truths, missing bits out to make me look like some super villain. My TR shows differently (apart from your extremely useful "friking sick maniac" LOL).

To all reading... lets wait and see. I myself have grabbed some popcorn for this comedy. Seems pretty obvious to me...

TC

[Banned: domain newbie]

TC- i don't see any sense in your posts here so far, except from what i understood you pm'd MH and DCG (from your posts here and in my pm)

i haven't posted any "half truths" and "missing bits" as you say- just stated the facts, not getting in to drama here - you should sort your head up

you left me NG feedback for no reason and without apparent rights for it , so i feel obliged to defend my self and its why i started this thread

[Dale Hubbard]

Tom, you can sort it out, Now is a good time matey.

[Banned: domain newbie]

Tom, you can sort it out, Now is a good time matey.

Can you elaborate Azooza, what you mean here ??

[Acro]

DN - Did Tom send any payment? If you didn't explicitly agree to a sale and did not receive any money per your request, then the negative feedback you received should be removed.

[Banned: domain newbie]

DN - Did Tom send any payment? If you didn't explicitly agree to a sale and did not receive any money per your request, then the negative feedback you received should be removed.

no- he never sent any payment ~ i have never asked for it and i have never agreed on sale with him ~

it's what exactly I'm trying to say here

[jdk]

DN - Did Tom send any payment? If you didn't explicitly agree to a sale and did not receive any money per your request, then the negative feedback you received should be removed.

I agree, if you did not specifically agree to a domain combination for a certain price then there was no agreement on your part. Just because you said to add $100 to the first offer doesn't mean $100 should be added and then any names picked; however, he did say take it or leave it as the offer was good for Valid 30 mins.

[Dale Hubbard]

Can you elaborate Azooza, what you mean here ??

My meaning becomes clearer as the thread elaborates I think. But I'm not taking sides. Yet.

[anderson33]

DN - Did Tom send any payment? If you didn't explicitly agree to a sale and did not receive any money per your request, then the negative feedback you received should be removed.

I think I agree with Acro on this. Unless I am missing something, it looks like there never was an agreement in the first place, thus there should be no negative feedback.

[Banned: domain newbie]

however, he did say take it or leave it as the offer was good for Valid 30 mins.

yes~ exactly, so i didn't took his offer, i took MC's offer ~ so does it give him the rights to blackmail me and leave negative fb ??

i can post more pm's - they all the same- "if i dont sell to him he will leave neg fb..etc"

[jdk]

More PM's is not necessary as I do not care of the outcome as I do not know all the facts. Not saying you have not posted everything, but many times members only post parts of PM's which help their story, but clearly the question is not selling the domains to the other member rather the fact your negative feedback was unwarranted.

[afloat.com]

domain_newbie, I am off to bed as it is the early hours here in the UK.
I dont see why you have gone to the effort of posting this thread. I PM'd MH, and told you. He will sort it. I am confident I am right, you are wrong. He will decide.

Perhaps you are trying to reassure yourself by posting half truths, missing bits out to make me look like some super villain. My TR shows differently (apart from your extremely useful "friking sick maniac" LOL).

To all reading... lets wait and see. I myself have grabbed some popcorn for this comedy. Seems pretty obvious to me...

TC

Tom, with all the drama you have dealing with people on this forum I'm amazed anyone will deal with you at all any more..