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DogFaceBoy · 12-08-2005, 08:01 PM

Lawyer advised me to remove this post.

**ShaunP** · 12-08-2005, 08:32 PM

Is this that site about selling "traffic"? If it is, not sure if you are going to get a lot of sympathy here. IMHO.

Shaun

**Jonathan** · 12-08-2005, 08:41 PM

It was really dumb of him to raise the price, but I can't say I'm very sympathetic to your cause since this was one of those quick sites where you get in and out fast and hope the buyer doesn't catch on, gets lucky or doesn't care enough to do anything about it.

**jdk** · 12-08-2005, 09:20 PM

Another sticky situation you have got yourself into DFB. You are saying in two weeks he has made $0.10 profit. Is this $1,000.10 he has made? If this is the case he shouldn't be complaining since you usually expect to run at a loss for at least 6-24 months in most cases.

**diverge** · 12-08-2005, 11:22 PM

While you may have every legal right to refuse refund, the upstanding thing to do is to try to make it right. If you don't have the money now, work out a refund payment schedule. Admittedly, doing the right thing is hard. But by refusing payment, you are in effect admitting that the site is not worth the $1000 he paid -- which places you dangerously close to being a scammer.

P.S. I don't know anything about the site in question. I am only saying these things in general.

**GT Web** · 12-09-2005, 12:41 AM

I will make two quick points:

1) Same type of thing happened to me a while ago - sold a website, the buyer changed the pages, traffic dropped because of the changes + the buyer decided he didn't like the quality of the existing traffic. He filed a chargeback, Paypal didn't help me at all, and I lost about 60% of the funds (since he didn't fund all with his credit card).

2) You made sales because of forum postings - depending on how you explained your marketing methods to the buyer, it might be an issue. Its like me putting a link to a domain in my sig, making many posts on many forums and then selling the domain as having "traffic". The visits may be there, but only if the buyer continues the marketing. Of course, this means my domain was worthless as anyone can put links in their sig. I hope your website experienced some sales without you having to make promotional posts, otherwise it could be considered fraudulent.

DogFaceBoy · 12-09-2005, 10:41 AM

Thanks for all the info and great responses. My lawyer has advised me to remove this post from here, so I am going to blank out the above post.

Regards.

**GT Web** · 12-09-2005, 01:15 PM

Instead of hiring a lawyer for a low $x,xxx sale, why not find a way to refund the buyer, get the site back and look to sell it again (disclosing full information to the next buyer of course)?

**MrDude** · 12-09-2005, 04:47 PM

Its dumb hiring a lawyer, If you can afford a lawyer why not refund? All seems stupid to me.

DogFaceBoy · 12-09-2005, 07:29 PM

My dad is a lawyer for free. Also no money to give back for a refund.

**DNWizardX9** · 12-09-2005, 08:47 PM

seems shady that you removed your original post... like you are hiding something now

**GT Web** · 12-09-2005, 09:44 PM

That isn't an excuse not to give a refund if the buyer deserves one.

**gariben** · 12-10-2005, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Also no money to give back for a refund.

In that case, your dad should offer a refund to the buyer. Or you can borrow your friends' money, sell your websites, etc.

12-08-2005, 08:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
DogFaceBoy Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Kyle Last Online: 09-14-2009 04:58 PM iTrader: (20) Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,025 DNF$: 10 Location: Canada Country:	Wants a refund - Please help FAST! Lawyer advised me to remove this post. __________________ Buy targeted traffic to your website! \| The Blog of Secrets Last edited by DogFaceBoy; 12-09-2005 at 10:43 AM..

12-08-2005, 08:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
ShaunP DNF Regular Last Online: 11-21-2009 04:10 AM iTrader: (8) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 800 DNF$: 690 Location: BC Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! Is this that site about selling "traffic"? If it is, not sure if you are going to get a lot of sympathy here. IMHO. Shaun __________________ kelowna.com

12-08-2005, 08:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jonathan DNF Addict Last Online: 11-09-2009 04:42 PM iTrader: (52) Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,351 DNF$: 208 Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! It was really dumb of him to raise the price, but I can't say I'm very sympathetic to your cause since this was one of those quick sites where you get in and out fast and hope the buyer doesn't catch on, gets lucky or doesn't care enough to do anything about it.

12-08-2005, 09:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
jdk DNF Addict Name: Doug Last Online: 11-19-2009 06:09 PM iTrader: (175) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,886 DNF$: 68,548 Location: Florida Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! Another sticky situation you have got yourself into DFB. You are saying in two weeks he has made $0.10 profit. Is this $1,000.10 he has made? If this is the case he shouldn't be complaining since you usually expect to run at a loss for at least 6-24 months in most cases. __________________ Domain Research Tool - Save $125!! Discounted DNF$ For Sale - Pimp RPG Game Alphabetize.org

12-08-2005, 11:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
diverge DNF Addict Name: Sam Pfanstiel Last Online: 10-17-2009 06:25 PM iTrader: (93) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,471 DNF$: 484 Location: USA Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! While you may have every legal right to refuse refund, the upstanding thing to do is to try to make it right. If you don't have the money now, work out a refund payment schedule. Admittedly, doing the right thing is hard. But by refusing payment, you are in effect admitting that the site is not worth the $1000 he paid -- which places you dangerously close to being a scammer. P.S. I don't know anything about the site in question. I am only saying these things in general. __________________ Sam -- I'm just waiting 'til the shine wears off.

12-09-2005, 12:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
GT Web DNF Addict Name: Daniel Last Online: 10-25-2009 04:41 PM iTrader: (24) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,910 DNF$: 9,193 Location: Vancouver, Canada Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! I will make two quick points: 1) Same type of thing happened to me a while ago - sold a website, the buyer changed the pages, traffic dropped because of the changes + the buyer decided he didn't like the quality of the existing traffic. He filed a chargeback, Paypal didn't help me at all, and I lost about 60% of the funds (since he didn't fund all with his credit card). 2) You made sales because of forum postings - depending on how you explained your marketing methods to the buyer, it might be an issue. Its like me putting a link to a domain in my sig, making many posts on many forums and then selling the domain as having "traffic". The visits may be there, but only if the buyer continues the marketing. Of course, this means my domain was worthless as anyone can put links in their sig. I hope your website experienced some sales without you having to make promotional posts, otherwise it could be considered fraudulent. __________________

12-09-2005, 10:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
DogFaceBoy Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Kyle Last Online: 09-14-2009 04:58 PM iTrader: (20) Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,025 DNF$: 10 Location: Canada Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! Thanks for all the info and great responses. My lawyer has advised me to remove this post from here, so I am going to blank out the above post. Regards. __________________ Buy targeted traffic to your website! \| The Blog of Secrets

12-09-2005, 01:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
GT Web DNF Addict Name: Daniel Last Online: 10-25-2009 04:41 PM iTrader: (24) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,910 DNF$: 9,193 Location: Vancouver, Canada Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! Instead of hiring a lawyer for a low $x,xxx sale, why not find a way to refund the buyer, get the site back and look to sell it again (disclosing full information to the next buyer of course)? __________________

12-09-2005, 04:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
MrDude Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Paul Rogers Last Online: 11-17-2009 11:15 PM iTrader: (10) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,251 DNF$: 0 Location: UK Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! Its dumb hiring a lawyer, If you can afford a lawyer why not refund? All seems stupid to me. __________________ Get your first month free at hostgator

12-09-2005, 07:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
DogFaceBoy Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Kyle Last Online: 09-14-2009 04:58 PM iTrader: (20) Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,025 DNF$: 10 Location: Canada Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! My dad is a lawyer for free. Also no money to give back for a refund. __________________ Buy targeted traffic to your website! \| The Blog of Secrets

12-09-2005, 08:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
DNWizardX9 DNF Addict Last Online: Today 02:38 PM iTrader: (8) Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,767 DNF$: 2,428 Location: home Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! seems shady that you removed your original post... like you are hiding something now

12-09-2005, 09:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
GT Web DNF Addict Name: Daniel Last Online: 10-25-2009 04:41 PM iTrader: (24) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,910 DNF$: 9,193 Location: Vancouver, Canada Country:	Re: Wants a refund - Please help FAST! That isn't an excuse not to give a refund if the buyer deserves one. __________________

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