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01-25-2007, 04:08 PM
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Country: | What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! I really try to avoid TM issues with my domain name purchases, but on occasion one slips by with 12,000 domains under my control. I received ZERO C&D notices in 2006... pretty good!
Monday of this week, the mailman knocks on my door and has me sign the green slips for a law firm I've never heard of... you know what that means. It's for a domain containing the word "Java", and Sun Microsystems is upset. I do some checking online and the a TM on a very simiilar domain phrase does exist, but by a totally different company. I pull up the page to see what ads Adsense is serving -- and see nothing related to EITHER of those companies.
Within the hour, I get an purchase order for Nolo.info, and I immediately accept because they matched my asking price. Then I notice the email address of the buyer is Nolo.com... Wait, I've bought their self-help books, they're a bunch of lawyers that publish books about things like protecting trademarks! Uh Oh...
I do some checking... Nolo is not a word in any other language, as I thought. crap. I check the TM... they have a USPTO reg'd TM on "Nolo". DOUBLE CRAP! I look at what Adsense is serving on the domain... competitive ads to the Nolo company... TRIPLE CRAP! I AM SCREWED!
Now I'm sure I've been set up for a UDRP. I peer through the peephole for the mailman with his green "RSVP for a Lawsuit" forms... all's quiet. That's odd.
Then, today, 3 days later... FULL PAYMENT.
I have to say that I am REALLY impressed that they didn't just bend me over and have their way with me. I'll certainly remember them when I see their books in the store or online, and I would encourage the rest of you to deal with ETHICAL companies like this.
Nolo.com, thank you!
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01-25-2007, 04:10 PM
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Name: Justin Godfrey Last Online: 09-05-2008 11:23 AM Join Date: Apr 2005
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Country: | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! congrats on the sale. |
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01-25-2007, 06:52 PM
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Name: Darren Last Online: Yesterday 11:59 PM Join Date: Feb 2006
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Country: | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! Great story. It's always good when things work out.
Not all lawyers are slime. [flamesuit on] |
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01-25-2007, 07:26 PM
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DNF$: 9,584 | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! Are you sure that you are out of the woods? |
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01-25-2007, 07:51 PM
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Name: Dan Anderson Last Online: 08-21-2008 02:26 AM Join Date: Jun 2005
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Country: | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! Was the price more than a UDRP would cost? If the total price was less than legal fees im not surprised.
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01-25-2007, 08:51 PM
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Name: Dave Zan Last Online: Yesterday 02:19 AM Join Date: Aug 2004
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DNF$: 0 Location: Manila | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! How about sending a thank you note after making your next nolo purchase?
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01-26-2007, 09:58 AM
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DNF$: 4,731 Location: Columbia, MD | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! Great story.. it made me laugh.
Some companies do just buy the domain if they feel it is reasonable. It may happen more than people might think. I hope it goes well with java.
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01-26-2007, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Duckinla Are you sure that you are out of the woods? | I assume so - just waiting for transfer from Escrow.com. I've not heard of a UDRP filing after a completed sale.
It was $1,499... so they saved $1 
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01-27-2007, 07:25 PM
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DNF$: 3,187 | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! Quote: |
Nolo is not a word in any other language
| They took the name of their publishing company from the plea of " No lo contendere" - the charge is not contested, commonly called a "no lo" plea.
It was most famously made by Vice President Spiro Agnew in response to a charge of tax evasion. It is a guilty plea without admission.
You got lucky: http://www.arb-forum.com/domains/decisions/831176.htm Complainant is Nolo (“Complainant”), represented by Richard Stim, of Nolo, 950 Parker Street, Berkeley, CA 94710. Respondent is Domain Administration Limited c/o David Halstead (“Respondent”), PO Box 37410, Parnell Auckland, Auckland, VIC 1033, NZ.
REGISTRAR AND DISPUTED DOMAIN NAME(s)
The domain name at issue is <nololaw.com>, registered with Enom, Inc.
[...] Complainant asserts rights in the NOLO.COM mark through registration with the USPTO. The Panel finds that Complainant’s registration and use of the NOLO.COM mark is sufficient to establish rights pursuant to Policy ¶ 4(a)(i).
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01-28-2007, 04:02 AM
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Name: Leonard Holmes Last Online: 07-23-2008 09:41 PM Join Date: Mar 2003
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DNF$: 243 Location: Narnia | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! Quote:
Originally Posted by jberryhill | Or he priced it right.
Probably some of both. |
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01-28-2007, 02:46 PM
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DNF$: 5,822 Location: Canada
Country: | Re: What the #%@%? Ethical behavior by a bunch of LAWYERS?!! Ehthics aside - just seems like a good business decision. Pay you nominal amount vs. time and money required to persure a UDRP or other action.
Congrats and thx for sharing!
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