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**jberryhill** · 09-03-2003, 04:44 PM

Top Story at WINS radio in FL......

http://1010wins.com/topstories/winst...246121834.html

"Officials said it was the first prosecution in the nation under a provision of the new Amber Alert legislation that makes it a crime to use a misleading Web address to entice children to pornography."

I particularly liked this part:

"There was no immediate information on an attorney for Zuccarini, who authorities said is originally from Philadelphia. Past attorneys have said they lost track of his whereabouts."

**NameGuy** · 09-03-2003, 04:53 PM

"Zuccarini registered thousands of Internet domain names"

"A section of the law called Truth in Domain Names makes it a crime to use a misleading domain name "with the intent to deceive a minor into viewing material that is harmful to minors." It calls for a prison sentence of up to four years."

Well, I guess this will put him away for a few thousand years.

Banned: bidawinner · 09-03-2003, 04:54 PM

"The FTC said Zuccarini has lost 53 state and federal lawsuits and has had about 200 Web addresses taken from him and transferred to copyright holders."

what a moron

**DotLeader** · 09-03-2003, 05:14 PM

he gets the :clown:

**jberryhill** · 09-03-2003, 08:31 PM

Here is a list of his domains:

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/.../typo-domains/

Banned: bidawinner · 09-03-2003, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jberryhill
Here is a list of his domains:

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/.../typo-domains/

he reged anncoulter.com !

That's one witch you dont want to get on the bad side of ..

Banned: bidawinner · 09-03-2003, 08:42 PM

Hey John , 4 years is pretty light considering he will do only 18-24 months or so..just long enough for him to relax and gather his composer after being "hounded" the past few years.

Any chance they will try and seperate say a group of names.. each registered at different times as 1 count(4 years max) , another group as another count (4 year max)etc..

**LewR** · 09-03-2003, 08:56 PM

It gives you a warm fuzzy feeling....LOL

**DotLeader** · 09-03-2003, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bidawinner
Hey John , 4 years is pretty light considering he will do only 18-24 months or so..just long enough for him to relax and gather his composer after being "hounded" the past few years.

Any chance they will try and seperate say a group of names.. each registered at different times as 1 count(4 years max) , another group as another count (4 year max)etc..

with a bick stack of cash waiting for him

**lotsofissues** · 09-03-2003, 09:15 PM

Is it possible he will be charged with more serious crimes?

**Chad** · 09-03-2003, 09:16 PM

>>4 years is pretty light considering he will do only 18-24 months or >>so..just long enough for him to relax

He wont be relaxing. Folks in prison dont like people who mess with little children. He'll be watching his back everyday and he better hope he gets into protective custody where he might have a chance.

**NameGuy** · 09-04-2003, 12:11 AM

4 years * 8800 domains = 35,200 years

Ok, let's say he gets 1 day in jail per domain, that's still 24 years.

**Momentum** · 09-04-2003, 03:47 AM

That guy is the lowest of the low and sheds a bad light on the whole industry especially if this becomes a big news story. If they let him out on bail, then I bet he will definitely flee the country. Probably go to France.

**HOWARD** · 09-04-2003, 08:40 AM

And HE wanted ME to go to jail for HIM!!!

**DotLeader** · 09-04-2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HOWARD
And HE wanted ME to go to jail for HIM!!!

your kidding right?

**lotsofissues** · 09-04-2003, 05:16 PM

And guess Zuccarini didn't even reveal all the details. Why does JohnZ stir Howard so much?

**jberryhill** · 09-04-2003, 08:32 PM

"Why does JohnZ stir Howard so much?"

http://www.gigalaw.com/library/elect...-10-30-p1.html

EB made several attempts at service. After being informed by Howard Neu, Esquire, an attorney who had represented Mr. Zuccarini in other matters, that he was not retained to represent Mr. Zuccarini in this matter, counsel for EB left two voice messages for Mr. Zuccarini informing him of the filing of the complaint and motion for temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction. (First Weiner Decl. at 2). That evening, counsel for EB left another voice message informing Mr. Zuccarini of the entry of the temporary restraining order and directives of the Court's August 10 Order. (First Weiner Decl. at 3). In each message, counsel for EB requested that Mr. Zuccarini return his call or retain counsel to return his call. (First Weiner Decl. at 3-4). Mr. Zuccarini did not respond and no one responded on his behalf. (First Weiner Decl. at 4). In addition, plaintiff's counsel forwarded a copy of the complaint and motion for a temporary restraining order to Mr. Neu. (First Weiner Decl. at 7; Neu letter, First Weiner Decl. at Exh. 1). Via letter to counsel for EB dated August 10, 2000, Mr. Neu stated that he would forward the pleadings in this matter to Mr. Zuccarini by United States mail. (Neu letter, First Weiner Decl. at Exh. 1). Also on August 10, 2000, EB sent a process server to Mr. Zuccarini's residence. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 2). Under oath on February 23, 2000, Mr. Zuccarini confirmed his address and stated that he has lived there for "[a]pproximately 15 years." (Pl. Exh. 5, Zuccarini Dep. at 9, Shields v. Zuccarini, No. 00-494 (E.D. Pa)). Mr. Zuccarini lives in an apartment unit inside a building with an outer security door. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 2). In order to gain access to the individual apartment units, a resident must unlock the security door. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 2). A sign was posted on this outer security door reading, "Deliveries for D-6[.] There is no one available to accept deliveries for D-6 nor will there be for a number of days. Please return to sender all items." (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 3). The process server rang the buzzer for Mr. Zuccarini's apartment, but no one answered. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 4). The next day, the process server returned and spoke to an individual in the management office who confirmed that Mr. Zuccarrini was still paying rent and had refused service of process by other persons. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 5). The same note remained on the security door and no one answered when the server rang the buzzer. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 5). On August 11, 2000, a process server attempted to effect service by ringing the buzzer on the security door and by knocking directly on Mr. Zuccarini's apartment door. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. C 4-6). There was no response. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. C 4-6). Neighbors identified Mr. Zuccarini's car which was in a parking lot near the apartment building.

See also,

http://www.keytlaw.com/Cases/shields.htm

**LewR** · 09-04-2003, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Momentum
That guy is the lowest of the low and sheds a bad light on the whole industry especially if this becomes a big news story. If they let him out on bail, then I bet he will definitely flee the country. Probably go to France.

1) It is already big news
2) We should let him go to France - they deserve each other.

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Howard, UNREAL!!!

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I just hope the Feds didn't make any mistakes - hate to see this guy sliding because of some technical...

**morel** · 09-04-2003, 10:47 PM

What would this guy's legal defense be?

**jberryhill** · 09-04-2003, 11:03 PM

"What would this guy's legal defense be?"

If he doesn't cut a deal, he should run the gamut, starting with the circumstances of the arrest, then you have a laundry list...

Constitutionality - Are domains "speech"? Is the law too vague? It's the first time out of the box for this law. (burden on the defense for this one)

Ex Post Facto - Did he set up his system to run on automatic prior to the law?

Jurisdiction - Are the servers/registrars/etc. located outside of the US?

Intent - Lately all of his stuff has led to a warning page, instead of directly to porn. Is that enough to avoid the intent to deceive, or an intent to deceive minors in particular?

Insanity - Technically not a "defense", but an "excuse"

My vote - deal. But everyone knows that's usually my vote.

He was arrested in Florida. Maybe he knows a good

FL lawyer....

09-03-2003, 04:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
jberryhill Philadelphia Lawyer Last Online: 09-18-2009 01:17 AM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,987 DNF$: 6,350	Zuccarini Arrested in Florida Top Story at WINS radio in FL...... http://1010wins.com/topstories/winst...246121834.html "Officials said it was the first prosecution in the nation under a provision of the new Amber Alert legislation that makes it a crime to use a misleading Web address to entice children to pornography." I particularly liked this part: "There was no immediate information on an attorney for Zuccarini, who authorities said is originally from Philadelphia. Past attorneys have said they lost track of his whereabouts." __________________ John Berryhill Ph.d., esq. John-AT-johnberryhill.com Please do not send private messages via dnforum.com, email me directly.

09-03-2003, 05:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
DotLeader Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 09-08-2009 09:20 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 769 DNF$: 349	he gets the :clown: __________________ =============================== WebsPassage Directory - PR5 - $2 per listing ===============================

09-03-2003, 08:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
jberryhill Philadelphia Lawyer Last Online: 09-18-2009 01:17 AM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,987 DNF$: 6,350	Here is a list of his domains: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/people/.../typo-domains/ __________________ John Berryhill Ph.d., esq. John-AT-johnberryhill.com Please do not send private messages via dnforum.com, email me directly.

09-03-2003, 08:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
LewR DNF Regular Last Online: 10-31-2009 04:59 PM iTrader: (8) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 751 DNF$: 52	It gives you a warm fuzzy feeling....LOL __________________ Lew Richards (LewR) LewR@Budweiser.com

09-03-2003, 09:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
lotsofissues Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 10-27-2004 01:00 AM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 353 DNF$: 108	Is it possible he will be charged with more serious crimes? __________________ The First Name Email its<at>mercurylink.net with a desired account name to get setup. After catch auction system now

09-03-2003, 04:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
NameGuy Last Online: 11-17-2009 12:33 PM iTrader: (100) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,769 DNF$: 7,744 Location: .us	"Zuccarini registered thousands of Internet domain names" "A section of the law called Truth in Domain Names makes it a crime to use a misleading domain name "with the intent to deceive a minor into viewing material that is harmful to minors." It calls for a prison sentence of up to four years." Well, I guess this will put him away for a few thousand years.

09-03-2003, 04:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,157 Location: MN Country:	"The FTC said Zuccarini has lost 53 state and federal lawsuits and has had about 200 Web addresses taken from him and transferred to copyright holders." what a moron

09-03-2003, 08:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Banned: bidawinner Account Terminated Last Online: 05-08-2009 02:24 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,677 DNF$: 8,157 Location: MN Country:	Hey John , 4 years is pretty light considering he will do only 18-24 months or so..just long enough for him to relax and gather his composer after being "hounded" the past few years. Any chance they will try and seperate say a group of names.. each registered at different times as 1 count(4 years max) , another group as another count (4 year max)etc..

09-03-2003, 09:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chad Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-03-2009 02:43 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 153 DNF$: 1,286	>>4 years is pretty light considering he will do only 18-24 months or >>so..just long enough for him to relax He wont be relaxing. Folks in prison dont like people who mess with little children. He'll be watching his back everyday and he better hope he gets into protective custody where he might have a chance. __________________ Your domains are never completely worthless, they can always be used as a bad example.

09-04-2003, 12:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
NameGuy Last Online: 11-17-2009 12:33 PM iTrader: (100) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,769 DNF$: 7,744 Location: .us	4 years * 8800 domains = 35,200 years Ok, let's say he gets 1 day in jail per domain, that's still 24 years.

09-04-2003, 03:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
Momentum DNF Member Last Online: 10-22-2009 05:31 PM iTrader: (2) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 326 DNF$: 5,287 Location: Jacksonville, FL	That guy is the lowest of the low and sheds a bad light on the whole industry especially if this becomes a big news story. If they let him out on bail, then I bet he will definitely flee the country. Probably go to France. __________________ One Word Domains and Good Keyword .com's for sale >> http://www.ModernDomains.com

09-04-2003, 08:40 AM	#14 (permalink)
HOWARD Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 12-01-2005 11:02 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 224 DNF$: 1,216 Location: Davie, Fl	And HE wanted ME to go to jail for HIM!!! __________________ Howard Neu, Esq.

09-04-2003, 05:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
lotsofissues Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 10-27-2004 01:00 AM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 353 DNF$: 108	And guess Zuccarini didn't even reveal all the details. Why does JohnZ stir Howard so much? __________________ The First Name Email its<at>mercurylink.net with a desired account name to get setup. After catch auction system now

09-04-2003, 08:32 PM	#17 (permalink)
jberryhill Philadelphia Lawyer Last Online: 09-18-2009 01:17 AM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,987 DNF$: 6,350	"Why does JohnZ stir Howard so much?" http://www.gigalaw.com/library/elect...-10-30-p1.html EB made several attempts at service. After being informed by Howard Neu, Esquire, an attorney who had represented Mr. Zuccarini in other matters, that he was not retained to represent Mr. Zuccarini in this matter, counsel for EB left two voice messages for Mr. Zuccarini informing him of the filing of the complaint and motion for temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction. (First Weiner Decl. at 2). That evening, counsel for EB left another voice message informing Mr. Zuccarini of the entry of the temporary restraining order and directives of the Court's August 10 Order. (First Weiner Decl. at 3). In each message, counsel for EB requested that Mr. Zuccarini return his call or retain counsel to return his call. (First Weiner Decl. at 3-4). Mr. Zuccarini did not respond and no one responded on his behalf. (First Weiner Decl. at 4). In addition, plaintiff's counsel forwarded a copy of the complaint and motion for a temporary restraining order to Mr. Neu. (First Weiner Decl. at 7; Neu letter, First Weiner Decl. at Exh. 1). Via letter to counsel for EB dated August 10, 2000, Mr. Neu stated that he would forward the pleadings in this matter to Mr. Zuccarini by United States mail. (Neu letter, First Weiner Decl. at Exh. 1). Also on August 10, 2000, EB sent a process server to Mr. Zuccarini's residence. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 2). Under oath on February 23, 2000, Mr. Zuccarini confirmed his address and stated that he has lived there for "[a]pproximately 15 years." (Pl. Exh. 5, Zuccarini Dep. at 9, Shields v. Zuccarini, No. 00-494 (E.D. Pa)). Mr. Zuccarini lives in an apartment unit inside a building with an outer security door. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 2). In order to gain access to the individual apartment units, a resident must unlock the security door. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 2). A sign was posted on this outer security door reading, "Deliveries for D-6[.] There is no one available to accept deliveries for D-6 nor will there be for a number of days. Please return to sender all items." (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 3). The process server rang the buzzer for Mr. Zuccarini's apartment, but no one answered. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 4). The next day, the process server returned and spoke to an individual in the management office who confirmed that Mr. Zuccarrini was still paying rent and had refused service of process by other persons. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 5). The same note remained on the security door and no one answered when the server rang the buzzer. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. B 5). On August 11, 2000, a process server attempted to effect service by ringing the buzzer on the security door and by knocking directly on Mr. Zuccarini's apartment door. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. C 4-6). There was no response. (Pl. motion for alternative service at Exh. C 4-6). Neighbors identified Mr. Zuccarini's car which was in a parking lot near the apartment building. See also, http://www.keytlaw.com/Cases/shields.htm __________________ John Berryhill Ph.d., esq. John-AT-johnberryhill.com Please do not send private messages via dnforum.com, email me directly.

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morel Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 02-17-2007 06:07 PM iTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 430 DNF$: 1,150 Location: Chicago	What would this guy's legal defense be?

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jberryhill Philadelphia Lawyer Last Online: 09-18-2009 01:17 AM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,987 DNF$: 6,350	"What would this guy's legal defense be?" If he doesn't cut a deal, he should run the gamut, starting with the circumstances of the arrest, then you have a laundry list... Constitutionality - Are domains "speech"? Is the law too vague? It's the first time out of the box for this law. (burden on the defense for this one) Ex Post Facto - Did he set up his system to run on automatic prior to the law? Jurisdiction - Are the servers/registrars/etc. located outside of the US? Intent - Lately all of his stuff has led to a warning page, instead of directly to porn. Is that enough to avoid the intent to deceive, or an intent to deceive minors in particular? Insanity - Technically not a "defense", but an "excuse" My vote - deal. But everyone knows that's usually my vote. He was arrested in Florida. Maybe he knows a good FL lawyer.... __________________ John Berryhill Ph.d., esq. John-AT-johnberryhill.com Please do not send private messages via dnforum.com, email me directly.

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