Adding IDNs to the Internet is like what???

[acesfull]

In the story, posted at:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/biztech/d...341442837.html

When it comes to implementing IDNs, Paul Twomey, chief executive of ICANN, said...

"The internet is like a 15-storey building and with IDN what we're trying to do is change the bricks in the basement."

I thought it would be more like giving Donald Trump hair transplants. Or perhaps adding a second seat to a bicycle built for one.

As for implementing IDNs, what do you think the Internet is like?

[Bramiozo]

Internet is a book for all people of all cultures to read and write, now, with idn, the chapter names in that book can be written in the languages in which the chapters are written.

Bricks have to be changed, only because the foundation is being strengthened.

[touchring]

Originally Posted by Bramiozo

Internet is a book for all people of all cultures to read and write, now, with idn, the chapter names in that book can be written in the languages in which the chapters are written.

Bricks have to be changed, only because the foundation is being strengthened.

Or rather, should you say,

idn means the names of books can be written in the language in which the book is written! :greensleep:


Say, how about if the inventors of the internet didn't support alphabets for URLs, so only 12 digit numbers a.k.a. ip address can be used. e.g. DNF.com = 562347184336.com.

One day, the ICANN guy says

"The internet is like a 15-storey building and with alphabetical domains, what we're trying to do is change the bricks in the basement."

And acesfull says:

"I thought having alphabetical domains is like giving Donald Trump hair transplants. Or perhaps adding a second seat to a bicycle built for one. I'm so used to 12-digit domains, besides typing using the number keypad is much faster, saves time, wanna to bet?"

But don't laugh too quickly. I read somewhere that early network people actually prefer ip address to domains.

[Rubber Duck]

IP still very much have their use. Aliasing is important not just from the "review and recall" perspective. If you swap hosting or whatever you invariably change IP address. If there were no aliasing then you would have to start your branding and advertising from scratch each time.

Twomey has left many with the impression that we are going to end of fully Unicode Root. That is not about to happen anytime soon, if ever.

ICANN seem to be portraying the problem as being a lot more complexed than it actually is. I think there a few problem relating to legacy equipment regarding DNAME. However, I think on the whole what we are hearing are excuses rather than reasons.

[touchring]

Never trust the tech talk, use your own common sense.

Look where has all the big talk about Java during the dot com boom gone? Everyone's now onto dot net.

[bwhhisc]

He is referring to a the problems of using only unicode. Putting unicode into the DNS root would involve putting over 50,000 unique characters into the system. Yeah, that would undoubtably be a challenge.

Punycode allows IDNs to work with 37 characters. (a-z, hypen, 0-9).
The system is alive and operating today.

Check out this article with news of completed engineering and operational standards for IDNs.

QUOTE: Regarding the technical implementation for the world wide web, we are done,” Patrik Fältström told the Internet Governance Forum. By “we are done”, he meant that following a decade of hard work by a global consortium of engineers and linguists, they had finally decided on a document that will enable all the world’s languages to be fully represented on the internet. People will be able to type in addresses in their own language, search in their own language and move around the internet in their own language. END QUOTE

http://www.domainnews.com/general/12...orld-wide-web/

[wrdekle]

As long as I own the phenotype, I don't give really care about the genotype. They can do what they want under the hood. I still own the car. Be my guest.

[IDNebook.com]

Originally Posted by wrdekle

As long as I own the phenotype, I don't give really care about the genotype. They can do what they want under the hood. I still own the car. Be my guest.

Yessir ! Im just waiting to Laugh My a$$ off all the way to the bank everyday

[Rubber Duck]

Originally Posted by IDNebook.com

Yessir ! Im just waiting to Laugh My a$$ off all the way to the bank everyday

Who is going to be going to the bank. International online transfers will be the name of the game. That and ranting over a mobile from the sunlounger to some poor developer based half-way around the globe, whilst harassing my PA over travel plans to next exotic destination.

[bwhhisc]

Originally Posted by acesfull

In the story, posted at:When it comes to implementing IDNs, Paul Twomey, chief executive of ICANN, said...
[FONT="Fixedsys"]"The internet is like a 15-storey building and with IDN what we're trying to do is change the bricks in the basement."

So Aces, did you get a chance to read the IGF "Punycode" article?
37 latin characters to make the entire IDN system become incorporated into the web.
Really simple and pretty ingenious, no bricks needed.

Also a good read, here's Verisigns proposed plan for DNAME to map IDNs.

http://www.icann.org/announcements/p...ld-12dec05.pdf