Domainers are Losers

[Poker]

Anyone here know a good psychologist to the domainers???

Lots of nice stories here about development and adsense. But one thing I'm still not sure about is when people here are looking to buy based on traffic, many only want traffic from parked names. So, if you are developing with the goal to eventually sell based on traffic, doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose?

Sell sites to end users

[Domainator]

Congrats!

Sold a brandable domain today for 7K to a developer, the funny thing is I remember posting it on this forum for $500 and no takers. Well, off to the 4th of July pool party, enjoy. .

[south]

So, if you are developing with the goal to eventually sell based on traffic, doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose?

*If*

Many of us have no intention of selling anytime soon if they're making a steady income. Unless it's a ridiculous amount, I would much rather have a consistent passive income than sell everything off and have nothing for the future.

[draggar]

hmmmmm......that's really odd because adsense revenue is quite low vs parking firms, mostly because of the CTR on a typical website being say 4-6% with adsense vs 25-35% or even greater (sometimes a lot more and I mean a lot) with a well targeted parked page.

Ditto on that. Its hard to get the motivation when I make more money off one parked domain at parked.com vs the few sites I have running adsense combined.

With Adsense paying pennies for clicks and Parked paying dollars, that's hard to believe. If you dont mind, could you PM me a couple of your sites?, your obviously doing something better than what I did.

First, I had really, and I mean REALLY crappy domains last year. If I showed you my portfolio from them and the ones I plan on dropping you would all laugh. I didn't develop and they all had little to no traffic.

So, I did some research, got some domains that I knew I would use, and developed them and also I got one domain earlier this year (hand reg) that has paid for itself parked (no intention of developing this one).

To give you a hint at how bad my portfolio was, between February 2007 and November 2007 I made a whopping $1.14 (I just checked sedo) in parking revenue. December I made $3.01. It isn't hard to beat that in a month with a site with good content.

Now, last month with some developed sites:
(Fan site to a game show) - $2.53
(a realname.org that I run for that person) - $2.08
(My real name.com - blog & only a partial month) - $1.03
(Support site for smart phones) - $0.83

(A site for a club that I run) - $0.66 though the Google search engine

No huge numbers and they aren't great but if this keeps up or increases each domain will pay for itself and hopefully the other TLDs I have for it. The niches I am in are small but dedicated and I have good information in the sites (especially the first two).

The firstname.org actually overtook the .com (illegal site) in SEO within 3 weeks of being launched and stayed there because I posted his articles (the guy has no clue about the internet and SEO but SEO comes naturally to him in his writings).

[getschoolhelp]

maker of the thread is a loser, funny how you paid $50.00 or so to register to this site.. so really who is the real loser who posted this emo thread?

if you got a problem sell all your domains for $5.00 cause you suck at domining - get a life , go out and work, most people here know their stuff, and make a lot more then you make in a year. -

learn - live - die .

its hwo life is.

[south]

Almost anyone can make money on a $7 registration. Having a little trouble are we?

ROFL!!!



In all fairness, the poster did profusely apologize. Perhaps he deserves a bit of a break.

[David G]

To give you a hint at how bad my portfolio was, between February 2007 and November 2007 I made a whopping $1.14....

OK, that explains it. It sure would be child play to beat 0.11 cents per month parked income vs new adsense sites.

[Acro]

Uh-oh, this thread touched Sahar's nerve - and very rightfully so.

[URLtrader]

I started with 5 domains few years ago and now have 900 domains. Does that make me a BIG loser ?

[EJS]

I do very well, thank you very much

My observation, still sticks - most involved here are LOSERS , who won't succeed

Thanks for the $5 dnf

Says the guy who listed YoungChildren.com, noclosing.net, and optionarmcalculator.com on DNForum.

I guess doing very well is all relative.

[getschoolhelp]

youngchildren.com pedafile website or what?> haha i would NEVER reg that domain.

"hey.. you should go to my site.. what is it?... youngchildren.com".

haha omg.

[HomerJ]

youngchildren.com pedafile website or what?> haha i would NEVER reg that domain.

"hey.. you should go to my site.. what is it?... youngchildren.com".

haha omg.

ROFL!

Where I disagree with you is; It's wrong to label them "Losers" Many of the sales you see are domainers unloading all their unwanted crap, Crap they regged when they were newbies and didn't know any better or perhaps some were under the influence.

Point well taken there.

and as others have implied, domainers are FICKLE.

and for the record, I like this thread a bunch. Its good to stir the pot once in a while! just look how hot this thread is.

Cheers LBIV!

[David G]

youngchildren.com pedafile website or what?> haha i would NEVER reg that domain.

"hey.. you should go to my site.. what is it?... youngchildren.com".

haha omg.

What is wrong with YoungChildren.com website anyway? It's a kids learning site.

What does it have to do with this thread?

[tldrental]

you sold VIPnation to LiveNation??????.....for ONLY $2500????

I can still sleep at night knowing this.....lol I did get taken. The guy that purchased this domain name put on a good act I guess.
It doesn't bother me though since I paid less then $2 for the name originally from ebay, and flipped it a month later for $2,500 I cant complain.

I will tell you the guy holding his face in sorrow is the guy who sold me the domain name vipnation.com who actually is the same guy who sold me planethollywoodhotel.com. I bought a 26 name portfolio from ebay for $36.00, so I paid less then $2 a piece. Not only did I earn monetized revenue while I owned them, which paid for them selves and some more, but then flipped them for a killer ROI.

Yeah the guy who sold them to me is definitely the one hold his face in his hands in self pity.

FYI - check your PM please

[MAllie]

Its good to stir the pot once in a while! just look how hot this thread is.

I have to agree about the result of Lord Byroniv's post: it certainly has had that effect. Also, some of the posters seem to me to be protesting too much. A lot of bitterness has risen to the surface of the debate, even if it's cloaked in mockery.

The use of the word 'losers' was unfortunate, as it is a very emotive word to use of entrepreneurs. Statistics show that most people who make a lot of money have lost a lot of money previously. It's a big learning curve.

As draggar pointed out, there are plenty of us still waiting for big domaining success. Would you winners like to mentor us and show us how to put paid to LBiv's view of domaining?

[MacyT.]

A lot of bitterness has risen to the surface of the debate, even if it's cloaked in mockery.

As draggar pointed out, there are plenty of us still waiting for big domaining success. Would you winners like to mentor us and show us how to put paid to LBiv's view of domaining?

A lot of people don't want the negative talk on the forums because it scares away newbies...if there isn't a constant influx of folks new to the game, then the market becomes much harder for everyone to stay afloat in.

The reality is - it's better for debate and ultimately maturity in the market. Individuals with deep pockets, sniffing around, aren't going to buy it for one second if everywhere they turn they only hear stories of people getting rich. Of course, there are losers in speculative markets. That's what makes it attractive to many people. People want to feel smart. That they made a smarter move than the other guy. Most people aren't doing this really thinking they can quit their day jobs. Many people don't want to.

[Ownager]

As a fellow loser I am getting ready to drive my mercedes convertible over to breakfast & then go out on my new 35 ft yacht-cruiser for 4th of july with some of the hottest chicks in South Florida, I'm probably making this up huh? I'll post some pics later, along with the daily $x,xxx parking stats (you know, to inspire all the other "losers" )


.....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, you are the loser for being negative dude. And I'm not kidding.

post up pics please

[MAllie]

Most people aren't doing this really thinking they can quit their day jobs. Many people don't want to.

I think that's probably true. I took it up as a break from writing and would be more than happy if I could get a small monthly income from it, enough to support my book-buying habit. At the same time, I would be delighted if some of the names I've bought turned out to be something special that I could get respectable amounts for. And there's the challenge of learning the various skills (flipping, monetizing and so on) to keep the brain synapses going.

[fojames]

obviously the OP of this thread use the wrong words, but he has apologised.
Domainers are not losers. Of course like in every other industry people get into it because of hypes and high expectations only to be disappointed.

majority of domainers don't make much money. But then some who know what really works for them make money.

I started domaining september last year and sold my first domain 2 weeks after for $100. Then I had read about domainers saying it almost impossible to sell domains until at least 5 to 6 months after registration but cos of the kind of person I am [Never let other people's complains put a limitation on what I can do]

I learnt what I needed to learn, found out what system worked for me,and created a system that gets me a steady income now $500 per week [working on increasing that].

Now there is no mystery to the system, just found it easy to hand reg names easily that are valuable to others. This comes easy to me cause I am a freelance writer [articlewriter.net]

So it's all about taking your strength and building on it. Have short and long term plans. Domains are internet real estate, you can'ts ell land everyday at great prices, you ahve to create value- development, optomazation etc and find the right buyers.

My conclusion, domainers are definitely not losers, there are losers that are
domainers
The losers enter the market hoping to sell crappy for millions and when they don't, they grumble, complain and *****, when all they need do is change their attitude and find out the secret of other people's success and build on that.

So it's a matter of attitude [determination, persevance, refusing to accept failure or defeat, and finding what works for you] like it's rightly said,

your attitude detrmines altitude in life

just my 2 cents, hope it's worth something to someone out there

[omosquera]

I just shipped you $5 DNF$ for pitty.....lol!!

rotfl