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    Double-s and zee-names

    I'm looking for opinions on double-s and zee-names, e.g., numberss.com, and robberzzz.com. I notice that many of the generic names with zzz at the end are gone. Is this just a fad and are these really a waste of time? Are these considered to be typos? I can understand someone's finger slipping and typing a double-s, but the zee is less obvious.

    PS. If I've put this in the wrong place, as is my wont, maybe a mod would please move it and redirect me.
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    No response at all? Ah, the eloquence of silence, I believe they call it, lol.

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    Patience my Friend Patience , someone will reply ...... i don have any lol

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    Thanks, Ehsan. Do you mean that you don't have any such names, or that you don't have any opinion about them? If you don't have any, I suppose I could take that as a negative comment about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAllie View Post
    Thanks, Ehsan. Do you mean that you don't have any such names, or that you don't have any opinion about them? If you don't have any, I suppose I could take that as a negative comment about them.
    Well don't have any of ss or zz domains , but do have something like graphicsz dot com and zefz dot com

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAllie View Post
    I'm looking for opinions on double-s and zee-names, e.g., numberss.com, and robberzzz.com. I notice that many of the generic names with zzz at the end are gone. Is this just a fad and are these really a waste of time? Are these considered to be typos? I can understand someone's finger slipping and typing a double-s, but the zee is less obvious.

    PS. If I've put this in the wrong place, as is my wont, maybe a mod would please move it and redirect me.
    dont waste your money ... its a catch22 thing, people can easily do the same with other letters e.g nnumbers, nuumbers, nummbers, numbbers, numbeers, etc ... once again, dont waste your money ... you will regret it imho.
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    Thanks for the comments, Ehsan and ComScout.com.

    ComScout.com, I don't actually think that nuumbers or even nummbers are as good as numberss. For a start, having the duplication at the end sort of follows the way someone might speak. Obviously, there is the problem you have with all of these names, that someone entering the name into the search engine or toolbar will have to remember the second s or the z or else will end up at the competition. But once someone has been there, they will often enter via their favourites or similar, so it's really only the first time.

    Of course there is something wonderful about having the real name in its pure entirety. But in a domain world where all the dictionary words are long gone or horribly expensive, the sz solution seems to me to be quite a good one (as per Ehsan's example of graphicszdotcom). As well as the com, the whole word is there, with that little extra something (the z). Even two zz's add an extra zing, it seems to me. And z can also be rendered so that it is very like a 2, only it will be more in proportion than the number.

    So all in all I really like the sz's, I have to say. I find that after looking at a few of these names my mind almost blanks out the z at the end (in much the same way as readers' minds blank out the 'he said,' 'she said' in a story, leaving the actual dialogue standing out in relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAllie View Post
    I'm looking for opinions on double-s and zee-names, e.g., numberss.com, and robberzzz.com. I notice that many of the generic names with zzz at the end are gone. Is this just a fad and are these really a waste of time? Are these considered to be typos? I can understand someone's finger slipping and typing a double-s, but the zee is less obvious.

    PS. If I've put this in the wrong place, as is my wont, maybe a mod would please move it and redirect me.
    Quote Originally Posted by MAllie View Post
    Thanks for the comments, Ehsan and ComScout.com.

    ComScout.com, I don't actually think that nuumbers or even nummbers are as good as numberss. For a start, having the duplication at the end sort of follows the way someone might speak. Obviously, there is the problem you have with all of these names, that someone entering the name into the search engine or toolbar will have to remember the second s or the z or else will end up at the competition. But once someone has been there, they will often enter via their favourites or similar, so it's really only the first time.

    Of course there is something wonderful about having the real name in its pure entirety. But in a domain world where all the dictionary words are long gone or horribly expensive, the sz solution seems to me to be quite a good one (as per Ehsan's example of graphicszdotcom). As well as the com, the whole word is there, with that little extra something (the z). Even two zz's add an extra zing, it seems to me. And z can also be rendered so that it is very like a 2, only it will be more in proportion than the number.

    So all in all I really like the sz's, I have to say. I find that after looking at a few of these names my mind almost blanks out the z at the end (in much the same way as readers' minds blank out the 'he said,' 'she said' in a story, leaving the actual dialogue standing out in relief.
    so basically, you already had made a decision and are determined to proceed?


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    Well, biggedon, there was a time lapse between when I asked my question and got any response. I put in a lot of thought during that time.

    I don't know why you sound so cross, though. As you say, it's up to me. For most domaining (and life) issues there are folks on both sides of the question. But, logically speaking, even if everyone were on the side opposite me, that wouldn't necessarily make my position wrong, or even untenable. Many of the now accepted parts of modern life were once frowned on.

    If I owned xxxxx.com, I would be naturally be delighted. But if I am only able to buy xxxxxz.com, I am not going to turn my nose up at it. That's just me, of course. Others might go into a lifetime sulk and make do with nothing instead. We are all different and I'm sure this is as true of domainers as of any other group of people. Nor need domainers who do actually own xxxxx.com think that a proliferation of xxxxxz.coms will in any way diminish the value of their ownership. After all, just because I'm happy to wear zircons doesn't mean that this reduces the value of real diamonds. In fact, it seems to me that it enhances it.

    So, yes, I am definitely having a go at this niche. There is really very little help from veteran domainers as to what to look for on a limited budget, i.e., from registering. While this is quite understandable - this is a competitive business, after all - it doesn't alter the fact that it is so. We all have to make our own way and, I guess, make our own mistakes.

    At the very least when a reasonable time spent domaining has elapsed, even if I have failed miserably, I will be able to write a book charting my adventures in the domaining world, with chapters headed up 'Double-sses and zee numbers,' 'I and e names,' 'How not to do domaining,' etc.

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    Dont do it, there is plenty of opportunity out there for normal names which will sell ... the chance of selling a typo for a high price is extremley rare. We are not having a go at you, but just offering our advice on how not to make a loss.
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    Thanks, ComScout. Truly, the advice is much appreciated. I suppose it's a matter of wanting to try a little bit of everything. I have a fair number of names now and no idea of their value or lack of value. Every so often I post for an appraisal, but I think I've only had one real estimate (for reg fee).

    I have it in mind to develop some of the sses, zzzs and szs I've bought, just for the hell of it. It's all a learning curve, isn't it? And you have to be prepared to pay for your education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComScout.com View Post
    Dont do it, there is plenty of opportunity out there for normal names which will sell ... the chance of selling a typo for a high price is extremley rare. We are not having a go at you, but just offering our advice on how not to make a loss.
    Yes, just because someone is being blunt does not mean they intend to insult you. You asked for opinions, and you got them Sounds like just straightforward answrs to me.. I would agree btw, don't waste your money on them. But hey, if you already have some, it can't hurt to try developing and see what it brings. Many people make money by trying something new.
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    Thanks, South. I agree that to be blunt is not to insult someone, and am mystified as to how I gave the impression that I was insulted. Perhaps because I sensed a tinge of annoyance in biggedon's response, despite the smiley?

    I look forward to seeing what result will come from developing the names, whether good or bad. That's what life is all about, after all, the adventure of uncertainty. How dull and confining it would be if everything were programmed with exactitude. If I succeed with even one of the names I will be happy and feel it a worthwhile experiment.

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    Mallie, I have to agree with the general consensus. If you're looking to resell them then don't register any (or any more if you've already done some). Parking might bring in some but you'll be lucky if you make back your registration fee.

    Now, if you're going to develop and have a good, original, and solid idea then I'd say go for it. This way the sky is the limit but requires the most amount of work. Any domain, no matter how obscure, can be a good revenue generator if developed and monetized properly.
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    Thanks, draggar. Some weeks ago I bought biscydotcom, because I want to set up a site with recipes for homemade biscuits. I know there are plenty of cookery sites, but I intend to intersperse the recipes with other content that may amuse or interest. One of the sz names I have bought is cookieszdotcom, so I will set the site up under one of the names and point the other at it. Hopefully there will be some way of finding out which (if either) is the name that is drawing interest.

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    Although, I did take the time to express my viewpoint..

    you seem to take my comments with negativity and I get "no thanks", even though everyone else said the same thing.
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    Ah, I do apologise, biggedon. Not thanking you for taking the time to respond was definitely an oversight. :(

    So let me do it now: thank you for taking the time to respond. It is very much appreciated, even if this does not seem to be the case. To be honest, any response to one of my posts is more than welcome.

    I can't blame you for being annoyed, either, at what must seem to you my stupidity. In domaining terms I am very much your junior, and may not ever grow to adulthood. At the moment all I can do is listen in on the grownups and try to learn. Unfortunately, I cannot be privy to the conversations which I am sure go on behind the scenes, which would result in my attaining maturity very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAllie View Post
    I can't blame you for being annoyed, either, at what must seem to you my stupidity. In domaining terms I am very much your junior, and may not ever grow to adulthood. At the moment all I can do is listen in on the grownups and try to learn. Unfortunately, I cannot be privy to the conversations which I am sure go on behind the scenes, which would result in my attaining maturity very quickly.
    Don't call it stupidity because it is not. It's lack of education and you're showing a willingness to learn which pulls you even further away form "stupidity".

    Now, if you asked and everyone said don't do it and you went ahead and spent hundreds on the domains and lost it all, then it would be stupid because you knew better but didn't go along with it anyway.

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    Such a nice post - thanks, draggar! Yes, I am trying to learn. And you're right, my attitude isn't really stupidity. But it can be perceived as such by others, and in that case the effect is the same. There are many who don't suffer fools gladly.

    Believe me, I take very seriously what everyone here has said in response to my question. If I do lose and my ventures come to nothing, I will learn from that. I am not bringing the housekeeping money to the table, lol.

    And just to round it all off, thanks again to everyone who responded. If it is of interest I will let you know my progress, if there is any.

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    This is just an update on my zee/double-s names, with a question: I put them on sedo about three days ago and one of them - a generic with three zees at the end - is getting a minimum of 50 uniques a day but no clicks. Is this a sign I should be developing it or not?

    Thanks for any comments.

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