How can I tell if a domain is cloaked or not?

[tinggg]

Hi

I've come across two websites with exaxtly the same template design and content. Both sites have different domain names.

How can I tell if:
- these are two seperate instances of the same website, each with their own domain name
- or one instance of the website with the second domain cloaked so that it appears two sites exist that are the same.

hope that makes sense
thanks
t

[Johnn]

http://www.copyscape.com/?results

[tinggg]

hi johnn

thanks for the suggestion but i know the content and template are exactly the same I just want to know if both sites are hosted on seperate domains (ie if there are 2 instances of the same site online) or if there is only one instance of the site hosted on one domain and if the other domain is a forward cloak so that it appears there are two instances of the same site.

Hope that makes sense.

When I enter the two urls into copyscape the result of each was
No results found for....[insert same homepage title for both].

Thanks

[copper]

http://www.checkpagerank.net/
I think this will tell you if it's being forwarded or not.

[Albert Tai]

Check the Hosting....the ip of the hosting.
If its the same hosting server that the guy could of just parked one domain to have two domains having the same site.
~Al

[tinggg]

thanks

checked out http://www.checkpagerank.net/ but it on gave page rank info for both sites (zero).

Did a Traceroute for both domains and both have the same final IP
xx.xxx.xxx.xx AS22090 RMH-11

But does this mean one of the domains is cloarked? Couldn't there be two sites hosted on the same server.

Though doing a traceroute indicated one of the domains may be cloaked it doesn't establish this nor does it establish which one is cloaked...

I didn't think if would this difficult to establish if a domain is cloaked!

Thanks for your suggestions.