How much money is in domaining?

[TXTDryFly]

How much do you earn per site per month. I know it all depends on the name, info, layout, ....But what is a ballpark figure per month for a site with good keywords and content. I have a full-time job, so I'm trying to decide how much time i can realistically put into this to make it worth my while. Thanks for any help.

[rmnarmenta]

You get out what you put in. The difference is "where" you are investing your time. The days of parking your domains are gone, I'm sure everyone would agree. Devote some of your time to learning how to develop your domains into websites. Try not to depend on someone else to do it for you. Learn how to create some nice banners and logos on your own. Invest a little into providing a server for your Hosting. Learn how to write some decent keyword articles.
One place that I have found to be extremely helpful is Noomle(.)com. I joined a little over a year ago with no experience and no idea of how to create a website, and I have learned almost every aspect of how to make one on my own. If you have questions about anything, they can help. Good Luck to You

[katherine]

Few people here are going to show their bank statements to you

Suffice it to say that domaining is a hobby for most people, few domainers make money and even fewer eke out a living with domain names.

PPC has sunken for sure but parking has never been a way to riches.
You need domains that get traffic (type-in), and there are few domains that are fit for parking.
Plus, new browsers behave in a certain way to capture type-in from users - so type-in traffic may be drying out but I digress

I think parking is (was) a good way to monetize idle domains but it's not the way to get the most out of your domains. It's like renting your unoccupied homes by the hour to pimps and prostitutes.

Only development (or purchase by an end user) will unleash the full potential of your domains.
IMO: pick a few domains in a niche you are passionate and knowledgeable about, and don't quit your day job until you generate a steady income flow.
Try to build a customer base and not depend exclusively on google adsense etc for your earnings.

[biggedon]

How much do you earn per site per month. I know it all depends on the name, info, layout, ....But what is a ballpark figure per month for a site with good keywords and content. I have a full-time job, so I'm trying to decide how much time i can realistically put into this to make it worth my while. Thanks for any help.

You get out what you put in. The difference is "where" you are investing your time. The days of parking your domains are gone, I'm sure everyone would agree. Devote some of your time to learning how to develop your domains into websites. Try not to depend on someone else to do it for you. Learn how to create some nice banners and logos on your own. Invest a little into providing a server for your Hosting. Learn how to write some decent keyword articles.
One place that I have found to be extremely helpful is Noomle(.)com. I joined a little over a year ago with no experience and no idea of how to create a website, and I have learned almost every aspect of how to make one on my own. If you have questions about anything, they can help. Good Luck to You

Few people here are going to show their bank statements to you

Suffice it to say that domaining is a hobby for most people, few domainers make money and even fewer eke out a living with domain names.

PPC has sunken for sure but parking has never been a way to riches.
You need domains that get traffic (type-in), and there are few domains that are fit for parking.
Plus, new browsers behave in a certain way to capture type-in from users - so type-in traffic may be drying out but I digress

I think parking is (was) a good way to monetize idle domains but it's not the way to get the most out of your domains. It's like renting your unoccupied homes by the hour to pimps and prostitutes.

Only development (or purchase by an end user) will unleash the full potential of your domains.
IMO: pick a few domains in a niche you are passionate and knowledgeable about, and don't quit your day job until you generate a steady income flow.
Try to build a customer base and not depend exclusively on google adsense etc for your earnings.

hi
all of the above members pointed out some key answers or general "pre-requisite" info to get a fact check, before getting feet wet


a good place to find answers

read domains for sale thread and websites for sale threads

then, if the seller publishes it, you can see how much the site generates and who sends the checks


there is plenty of in between the lines info, if you know how read it

Good Luck

[professor]

Yap i agree that it is better if u create minisites or blog rather than park it , i m getting lot of domain developing orders who used to park them .

[thevirtual]

Domaining is not the same as web development.

[Maxwell]

Domaining is not the same as web development.

+1

Domains only have a keyword value to determine a price and ultimately make money.

Development opens up substantially more opportunity for traffic, which is worth money. An advertiser won't pay for something potential customers won't be able to see.

[Jilo]

How much do you earn per site per month. I know it all depends on the name, info, layout, ....But what is a ballpark figure per month for a site with good keywords and content. I have a full-time job, so I'm trying to decide how much time i can realistically put into this to make it worth my while. Thanks for any help.

You can make good money ($x,xxx per month) flipping domains... i.e buying, and selling quickly for a profit - but as biggedon said: READ.

You need to read, research, read, and once you think you know it all, read and research again...

[Banned: adonivideo]

OK

Domaining isn't developing hmmmm

Domains only have a value for type ins

OK let's travel in time

1995 Yo dude there's this thing called 'the net' you got 100, we can get COOL.com and be cool, yeah dude ok...

Hmm, so some guys got keywords .com and yeah some had type ins and well empires were made and IPO's and whatever, that's DONE AND OVER no more keyword.com's left, long gone, so the idea that a domain name has to be a type in to have value is not how a modern domain 'investor' needs to look at developing a domain portfolio

Now there are some minor traffic typo's left, like keywordGEO.com and GEOkeyword.com, but the good ones are long gone

Now many here say typo's are the only way to value a domain, ok, for minor traffic and minor money, let's face it, no one is doing new reg's with major type in's and very rarely does a real type in name of any value get sold to a speculator, if it is worth something it gets developed and or sold to end users

Now you see here a lot of lesser tier quality keywords and and other domains and while none are really potential for type-in traffic, many are definitely worth 'investing' in

My suggestions to you, since you're so late in the game as was the kind of domains frank schilling who got in almost 10 years after the getting in was good, you need to find a way to register/buy/trade domains of value to end users and either sell them or develop them and lease them

For example let's say you live in WHEREEVER

You check that location at GoDaddy, or a bulk registration site, ok I want

whereeverKEYWORD.com

Use your head, find out what keywords make google big money

Lawyers pay around 20 cpc for whereeverLAWYER traffic from google

So you find GEO keywords .com and if your city isn't overrun by a local domainer, you may find some 'gold' easy to develop keywords and then you have a domain 'asset' to sell or develop

If you can do web site design great, you throw up some minor content on a geo keyword and you pop google with some minor seo skills

Now you're page one for term google wants 20 or 5 or 8 or whatever cpc for

Now you call some of the people buying that keyword in your area and say YO DUDE you want organic for the keyword google is charging you 10 bucks for? I OWN whereeverKEYWORD.com

Now a bunch of other tld's can pop google, so in this method of 'investing' in domains, using minor development and seo skills, you can have out of .com's that many business persons will pay you either a lot for the domain once they see it on page one, or B. a nice monthly residual income

That all being said, I see the new wave of domain 'investors' being actively involved in mostly geo buying and registerng and then putting them on page one and finding clients

Now once you hit a few homeruns (serp's on page one for high dollar cpc) you can show that success to other local businesses and say, ok, I own your keyword too, you want me to do what I did for WHOEVER, call him I MAKE THE PHONE RING

Now you're the GOD OF SEO and DOMAINS in your market, soon have dozens of clients paying 250 to 2K a MONTH for names you bought weeks or months ago for 7 bucks

Now this is sound real life advice from someone DOING IT

Lucky for me I was in the game in 1995 and I've been in an out of the net for 15 years, I do stuff, then take breaks

Now I'm doing stuff

So my advice to a newbie

Look unless you got serious dough, the only way to grind money out of 10 buck reg fees and maybe 100 or 200 domain buys is

a. specialize in your GEO area
b. register anything with cpc over 2.00
c. start to look at lesser tld's for your area
d. learn how to make a website and learn minor seo skills
e. get a local GEOdomains.com or a GEOnetmarketing.com to market yourself
f. design some pages and put your number on the front door, when people call you say thanks for calling but the name is in developmental still, the new owner will be answering phone next week
g. get out and sell monthly residual LEASES to the people in your area who NEED THAT POSITION

If you do what I say in a short amount of time for a minor investment you own anything worth developing for SEO serp's for big buck keywords in your market

Forget about selling out of region, most end users are older and want to see a person in the flesh

In a short amount of time you are getting tons of referrals and if you're ethical like me, you turn down most of the referrals, since you know the cpa and traffic for that industry is nothing and you only have so many hours in the day so you maximize and do high value jobs and say SORRY I'm too busy for that project but Joe down the road needs to eat next week so this is his number

LOL

Bottom line, what can you get into with minor investments today?

The above is what I think you can do FROM MY EXPERIENCE

Now you can play the drop game, or the CCtld game or whatever

But, the 'need' today is every business in america needs page one, it's the new yellow pages, page one google

So based on my experience taking trash and turning it into GOLD is the above

Now if you have money to invest, good, I have a whole different scenario, pm me

But money to me starts in mid 7 figures

Under that, don't bother me (BIG SMILE)

There's a ton of major investment domains that are doing NOTHING and with minor development could dominate google for tons of high value cpc

Now some here may have .com GEMS, great, while they are not on page one NORMALLY, you may be making nice money from minor type-in traffic, I say minor due to a big type in keyword has way more traffic IF it is on page one serp's

But most type in owners of high value asset .com's are happy and LAZY, they don't want to spend money or partner with proven SEO GODS to stick page one

So they see very little income from GOLD MINES

Example insurance.com sold for 35M or so

WOW, the glory days are back

Wrong, insurance cpc keywords bang 15 to 50 a click

So car.insurance.com or auto.insurance.com are gold mines

50M plus searches for insurance a month at 15 to 50 cpc for products and geo hits

So to an insurance company 35M is cheap, since if you try to buy ppc for insurance terms nationally google says OH YEAH BUDDY, we want 2M a DAY to make you page one

Yet it's still not where it belongs the new owner is a net marketing company

Yep, a net marketing company ponied up 35M for insurance.com

This is the group

http://investor.quinstreet.com/ownership.cfm

Now why would net marketers buy insurance .com

They're like me, they know what the cpc is and how to pop anything worth popping

So now they can sell 100M+ a year to insurance companies in ads

Google wants 2M a day to make any insurance company a player in ppc for insurance

And that just puts you into top 3 left rotation, that means they have 5 to 7 companies they are trying to split up 50M monthly searches for

So if you got 2M a day you can buy page one google for insurance

If you had 35M and had info insurance.com was for sale

yeah you got a BILLION BUCK asset for NOTHING IMO

So it's 2010 and you want to know how to make money in domains

Well if it were 1998, I'd say BUY MY BOOK, LOL

Looks like Schilling did, his empire did one of my outlines for domain name investing

Only he took it to a better level

Good job frank,

Now, you got money, serious money 5M+, PM me, I can tell you of gems like insurance.com ready to be plucked

But if you did, you wouldn't be asking the question this way

So the long response above about reg fee GEO's with high value cpc keywords is my advice to a newbie

Do bulk GEO reg's in your area, hook up with a web site developer and hit page one and then RENT IT OUT

Residual Income is the key to domains and it comes with GEO keywords and minor development

Then what you want to make?

25 clients a month paying 500 average?

50 clients

100

There's 200 business categories worth developing IMHO

In each city

You can have 3 to 5 clients a category

Oh they want exclusives, OK, charge 5 times your fee

The scenario above gives you 100K to 1M income in most GEO areas

Yeah LA and NYC are not open now, but most markets are

Now if you are an SEO maven, then even LA and NYC are open for this type of domain/development twist

Sorry for such a long response but you asked the question and I answered it to the best of my abilities

Still plenty of money to make in domains

If you have serious money, yeah keywords.com are still in play

If you have little money do what I said and when you are cashing checks send me some

LOL

[Tia Wood]

I have a full-time job, so I'm trying to decide how much time i can realistically put into this to make it worth my while. Thanks for any help.

Your question is too vague. So here's your answer: It varies.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Wanting to quit your job and do it full time? Want to use it as extra income? Want to take over the world?

[floname]

Domains are basically valued by their ability or potential ability to generate ad revenue. Whether it be by means of money saved or money generated, that will be what determines the value. To somewhat paraphrase what LionLungs mentioned above, that's the bread and butter of the buyer.Your job is to recognize or install it within a particular name.

At the end of the day, your profit is ultimately determined by the extent of your pursuit....

Good luck

[Asaf]

I think parking is (was) a good way to monetize idle domains but it's not the way to get the most out of your domains. It's like renting your unoccupied homes by the hour to pimps and prostitutes.

HAHAHA....LOL - That was so funny Kate!!! .....Loved the analogy

"TXTDryFly" - I have only one advise for you -

Treat it like a business and you'll get business results!
Treat it like a hobby and you'll get hobby results!

[HomerJ]

Your question is too vague. So here's your answer: It varies.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Wanting to quit your job and do it full time? Want to use it as extra income? Want to take over the world?

since you mentioned, 'wanting to quit your job' allow me to introduce this apropos little chart i made



you can read the full story behind the chart here

[nilesh100]

HAHAHA....LOL - That was so funny Kate!!! .....Loved the analogy

"TXTDryFly" - I have only one advise for you -

Treat it like a business and you'll get business results!
Treat it like a hobby and you'll get hobby results!

I like both quotes
Yes it's serious but unpredictable business. if you are buying or selling domain then price range are so big that predicting yearly profit is difficult

[lawdog]

No matter what-hard work is involved!

[DaddyHalbucks]

How much do you earn per site per month. I know it all depends on the name, info, layout, ....But what is a ballpark figure per month for a site with good keywords and content. I have a full-time job, so I'm trying to decide how much time i can realistically put into this to make it worth my while. Thanks for any help.

The best advice I can give you is to quit your day job. Or, go back in time to 1995.

Get some money from your family and friends, if possible. Let them know it will be a few years before they get paid back.

You will never make it as an entrepreneur without 100% effort. See all of your fellow domainers here on this forum? They are terrific customers, partners, and allies --but they are also competitors. For you to rise above the crowd, you need to be full time.