.mobi question

[stockshark]

I guess i've been in the domain game for a little while now but I have to plead ignorance when it comes to .mobi domains. So here's my question.... if I am on my blackberry and I go to yahoo.com (type-in), the page that comes up knows I am on a mobile, it's the not the same page that comes up if you are on a regular computer. If I go to yahoo.mobi instead of yahoo.com, the page that comes up is essentially the same. So my question is this....am I going to yahoo.mobi even though I am typing in yahoo.com? Also, is the hope for .mobi owners that eventually cellphones will default to .mobi, or is a cellphone "type-in" to a domain + .mobi extension the only way a cellphone surfer will get there?

[mjnels]

Originally Posted by stockshark

So my question is this....am I going to yahoo.mobi even though I am typing in yahoo.com?

possibly, some sites have it set up as a redirect.

Originally Posted by stockshark

Also, is the hope for .mobi owners that eventually cellphones will default to .mobi, or is a cellphone "type-in" to a domain + .mobi extension the only way a cellphone surfer will get there?

for me: neither of those things.

i would spend plenty and plenty of time reading all the forums about .mobi.... there are a lot of views out there.. most of them very confusing.

[stockshark]

Yeah I am starting to look at some of the threads about .mobi. There is a lot to digest, lol.

[Doc Com]

I have the Helio Ocean.

Every .com site it autodetects to state that the site has been formatted to fit the screen. This is the true watered down version of a site. So much in fact, all graphics are gone and most vital links are missing (ie, my email prompt at Windstream (alltel) and log in at Suntrust). But, I have the option of clicking on HTML version and everything is there...and I do mean EVERYTHING. Every graphic, every ad, everything you would find on the PC version as this is the PC version on the small screen. It becomes annoying the number of times you have to scroll up and down to get what and where you want.

Mobi compliant sites eliminate this by configuring the sites to a specific size along with maintaining all functions. Many call this a watered down site but it is much faster in loading than a full blown .com site. Plus, on the helio and most phones I would imagine, it beats the hell out of a stripped down and non functional .com site. Then I go to a site, I go for a reason. That reason is not to end up on a .com site made to fit a mobile screen, having to located the HTML version to find what I am looking for, and then taking forever to load and scroll to what I want. That is precisely why .mobi works better on the small screen.

In regards to knowing where you are (is it mobi or is it com?), my Helio does not show the URL. Many times I have to hit the HTML option.

By the way, when and if I hit the HTML option, the .mobi sites still respond promptly and work flawlessly.

[stockshark]

Thanks for the info. On the Blackberry I have a "desktop view" and "mobile view" option but when on yahoo if I select desktop view it doesn't give me the fullblown page, just the watered down mobile version.

Interesting, I did find a "page address" menu option on my Blackberry. When I go to either yahoo.com or yahoo.mobi, the page I am sent to is us.m.yahoo.com. When I go to flowers.mobi, I am actually on flowers.mobi. So I guess yahoo directs .mobi traffic back to a watered down .com address?

[StockDoctor]

Why is it again not just as easy to do .com/mobi compliant versions without buying the extra extension?

[stockshark]

Originally Posted by StockDoctor

Why is it again not just as easy to do .com/mobi compliant versions without buying the extra extension?

This is what I am trying to figure out. It seems yahoo has it set up so that .mobi isn't used (needed?). Granted, it's not a page with all the bells and whistles, but at least I can get to news headlines and do basic functions like check email and get stock quotes.

[domainah]

If you had an iPhone instead of a Helio or Blackberry the website you see wouldnt even be the watered down version, but the real stuff...at this point there is no need at all anymore for an additional TLD...not there would be one now..

[stockshark]

Originally Posted by domainah

If you had an iPhone instead of a Helio or Blackberry the website you see wouldnt even be the watered down version

Really? That's interesting.... i've been thinking about getting an iPhone and the more I hear about it the more I want one

As for .mobi domains? I don't know, I think I am still inconclusive pending further research...

[mjnels]

Originally Posted by StockDoctor

Why is it again not just as easy to do .com/mobi compliant versions without buying the extra extension?

it is just as easy. and some do.

you are reading too much into it... mobi is just another TLD... not the second coming of christ like most people would like you to believe.

forget all the hype... pay no attention to the majority of things you have heard about it.... or what it is supposed to "live up to."

at the end of the day, there are 20 gTLDs... some sell for something, others dont.


we could debate all day about the pointlessness of any extention besides the original few... and i agree to some extent... on the flipside it doesnt really matter, because people that were involved in the .INFO landrush for example, ended up with hundreds (maybe even thousands) of quality words effectively for free... and to this day there is *some* sort of aftermarket for .info.... enough of a market to live on if you hedged your bet correctly.. and THIS is the point since we are all "domainers."

Originally Posted by domainah

If you had an iPhone instead of a Helio or Blackberry the website you see wouldnt even be the watered down version, but the real stuff...at this point there is no need at all anymore for an additional TLD...not there would be one now..

i have an iphone... mobile optimized websites (not JUST mobi domains) tend to fit on the screen better... this will become the preferred method of viewing on mobile devices in the future... with OR without mobi.

saying the "full web" being viewed on a 3 inch screen is preferred is like saying you prefer to watch movies on your home TV that were formatted for a huge movie theater screen... having the option to do so is nice.. but a more optimized method is preferred.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by domainah

If you had an iPhone instead of a Helio or Blackberry the website you see wouldnt even be the watered down version, but the real stuff...at this point there is no need at all anymore for an additional TLD...not there would be one now..

Makes me wonder where cell phones will be 5-10 years from now, are larger sized phones comparable to Iphone the wave of the future?, many seem to think so.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by mjnels

i have an iphone... mobile optimized websites (not JUST mobi domains) tend to fit on the screen better... this will become the preferred method of viewing on mobile devices in the future... with OR without mobi.

saying the "full web" being viewed on a 3 inch screen is preferred is like saying you prefer to watch movies on your home TV that were formatted for a huge movie theater screen... having the option to do so is nice.. but a more optimized method is preferred.

I went to the local AT&T store newly build down the road. I had to check out the iPhone.

Actually, not just the iphone, but most cellular phones in general remind me of the old microfiche.

But particularly on the iphone, you are scrolling whether you want to touch with your fingers or press a button. I looked at full web sites and went to New York Times and USA Today.

Great! I had the entire newspaper in the palm of my hand.

Now what?

Some feel the iPhone is magic. But it is still not new technology, you still have to "scroll with your fingers", and you still have the full blown .com site that is difficult to navigate. Plus, even in Wi-Fi or Edge, it still took considerable time to load.

Then...

I showed the guys and gals a few .mobi sites.

And I showed them the Helio Ocean. I showed them the fast 3G network, the .com sites formatted to fit the screen, the HTML mode, and the .mobi sites on the Ocean.

The overall response?

Whoa! (Ocean and .mobi)

That's cool! (Ocean and .mobi and surf reports on SDCA.mobi)

You better get that out of here! (chuckling) (Ocean)

Where'd you get that? (Ocean)

Will that work on any phone? (.mobi)

[nnh]

Yes .mobi is the second coming lol...

Youre in the car and just hit Vegas!!! You have your mobile/cell phone what do you try casino.mobi or a .com on a tiny screen and scroll for the next hour. Youre hiking and the weather changes, you look for a PC or use your phone to check out weather.mobi.

You will know .mobi is cut down and quick. You think everyone in the future will bother buying a PC?? No, you will access information on many devices and the PC (.com) will possibly have the lesser of the market!!

It is not just another TLD, it is THE TLD. So embrace it, grab it and be part of the future...

[dotcomocity]

i hope you are right. I am really hoping to bank on my mobis

[Raider]

Originally Posted by dotcomocity

I am really hoping to bank on my mobis

Your not alone....lol

[Doc Com]

Today I watch a football game on my Black and White stereo console TV, a Magnavox model from 1962, complete with 8 track tape player, record player for records in 33, 45, and 78 rpm.

I had to move the rabbit ear antennae frequently to get good reception, occasionally soliciting the help of my wife. Climbing up on the roof, I was able to manipulate the UHF/VHF antennae somewhat as my wife kept calling out whether the the picture was better.

I ended up having to wrap some tinfoil (reynolds aluminum wrap) around the rabbit ears to improve the reception. Just when everything was fine, wouldn't you know it the 4 o'clock game was on a different network.

LOL, I had to climb back up the ladder and fool around with the Channel Master antennae once again, yelling to each other "right there, right there, oh yeah, that's great" that soon the neighbors came out wondering what was going on.

Sex on a Sunday afternoon? With football on? Don't be foolish. We wouldn't have sex up on the roof. Silly neighbors, they are.

People think I have a computer. When I tell them I don't, they say then it must be an electric typewritter. Oh no no, I say. It is Morse Code. I have achieved what no one else has been able to. I have rigged up my telephone lines to accept morse code and to post it here in a fashionable style that you can read. When actually it looks like this:

.._. .._ _._. _._ .. _. _ _ . / _. .._ _ ... .

Technological advances?

LOL. Who needs it when the old ways work just fine.

Any one up for some Slim Whitman?

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

Today I watch a football game on my Black and White stereo console TV, a Magnavox model from 1962

Don't let that one go, I hear the tubes inside could be worth 2K-4k a piece

We just ordered the new Panasonic 103" Plasma, awesome TV, they just keep making them bigger and better, Kinda like wireless devices

[domainah]

Originally Posted by Raider

Makes me wonder where cell phones will be 5-10 years from now, are larger sized phones comparable to Iphone the wave of the future?, many seem to think so.

Thats a good question, I would think the next step might just be all-screen phone like the Iphone thats a flip-phone, so you can double the size of the screen if you want. Also, the technology of having a flexible LCD screen that is paper-thin might be next for phones (and already being used in some Japanese cars). I am sure screens are getting bigger in ways we might not forsee yet, maybe holographic imagining at one point..who knows..but does that mean I need a domain like travel.holo? Probably not.