Newbie here... just chickened out on AMMO.ORG, good or bad call?

**GDunit** · 10-25-2011, 02:21 PM

So I was sitting at my laptop watching the auction end, bank account ready to be drained for just over $800 on the GoDaddy auction for ammo.org and I wussed out at the last minute. I even had my bid typed in! Now I want you to let me have it, was that a good / bad call? I am really feeling the rush that comes with domain purchase and development but not fully trusting my assessment skills yet. Anyway, good luck to whomever purchased it, if they are on this board... it should be a fun project / sale...

**Bill Roy** · 10-25-2011, 02:34 PM

Ammo.org would be a great name for a directory of gun clubs I would have thought, and of course all the associated kind of articles along with a good revenue stream. Whether you were right to pause in the purchase only you and time will tell. Though if you had ideas already sketched out in your mind on the development potential it would seem that perhaps the hesitation was something that you should have overcome.

Can I ask did you set yourself a limit prior to the auction? If so and $800 was under your limit then you must identify 'why' you did not continue. (Of course the winning bidder may well have been prepared to go significantly higher and you may have lost the auction anyway - just a small crumb of comfort.)

**Acro** · 10-25-2011, 02:49 PM

My appraisal still stands
http://www.dnforum.com/f4/ammo-org-thread-381346.html

**Gerry** · 10-25-2011, 03:05 PM

I think it would be a damn good name on several fronts, especially for development.

Anytime there is a change in political office, gun laws come into play including limiting the caliber of ammo and what the ammo is specified to do.

Its a domain name that needs no branding or definition as it is already well branded, to the US english speaking community.

I think $800 (or whatever it went for) was an extremely good price for the buyer. This could make a return on investment in short time. The rest would be the icing on the cake from here on out.

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Originally Posted by Bill Roy

(Of course the winning bidder may well have been prepared to go significantly higher and you may have lost the auction anyway - just a small crumb of comfort.)

That's always a strong consolation when in auctions...the winning bid is when bidders stopped bidding and no one knows how high the winner was willing to go.

**GDunit** · 10-25-2011, 03:09 PM

I just froze... got nervous I don't know enough to be throwing around $800 on a .org that would be 3rd on my development list for right now. I considered marketing / resale, but again, I don't feel comfortable with my knowledge. I did read your estimate Acro but I was unsure who / how I could find someone to pay even 50% of the value when the auction only hit $800. Give me another month of research, and hopefully a small sale or two to see the entire system, and I think I would have moved forward... here's to lost opportunity and the lesson's learned!

**Gerry** · 10-25-2011, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by GDunit

here's to lost opportunity and the lesson's learned!

Well, by your own admission, you weren't sure so you actually did the right thing for yourself...held back.

It is not a lost opportunity because now you will take the time to learn more about domains, domain value, and the business side of domaining.

**Bill Roy** · 10-25-2011, 03:22 PM

GDunit, none of us are ridiculing you in any way, let me assure you we have all been there.

By the way, welcome to the best domaining forum there is.

**barrysanders** · 10-25-2011, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Acro

My appraisal still stands
http://www.dnforum.com/f4/ammo-org-thread-381346.html

If you think something is worth $10k why wouldn't you have bid $1k for it then? Seems like enough room for a good ROI if your appraisal is accurate. Otherwise your appraisal has no value if you won't even put a 10% bid of your appraisal value behind it.

**urlurl** · 10-25-2011, 03:50 PM

as a new person (was there, still am in a way) its better to leave the table with money in your pocket, than it is to bet and loose it all. There are always other names and opportunities out there.

welcome to the game.

**JoshJ** · 11-14-2011, 08:30 PM

I'm a newbie as well.. Did the opposite though ... purchased CreditSmartCard.com when I was unsure... based my decision on http://bizinformation.co/www.creditsmartcard.com as well as http://appraisalwebdomain.com/domainevaluation.aspx
as well as the smartcard 'trend' spillover to US... Unsure if I got a good deal, but the appraisals were way more than I paid. Either way, there's a lot to learn. And as they say: Learning the rules is free. Learning the ropes will cost you.

**lordbyroniv** · 11-14-2011, 08:36 PM

Rule # 1 - Buy Low/ Sell High

Rule # 2 - If your gonna develop - have a clear and executable vision

**Gerry** · 11-14-2011, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by JoshJ

based my decision on http://bizinformation.co/www.creditsmartcard.com as well as http://appraisalwebdomain.com/domainevaluation.aspx
as well as the smartcard 'trend' spillover to US... Unsure if I got a good deal, but the appraisals were way more than I paid. Either way, there's a lot to learn. And as they say: Learning the rules is free. Learning the ropes will cost you.

When you base your decision on some internet auto appraisal service, you will either go broke buying junk or you will end up with junk you can not get rid off.

**JoshJ** · 11-14-2011, 09:38 PM

Indeed...and I joined this forum so that I may someday be able to do my own appraisals. However, since I am not yet there, I took a chance that the appraisal service was based on at least some pertinent information. Appraised @ $26,000 and on another site * 8,000 Euros. I paid nowhere near either figure... Are you saying CreditSmartCard.com isn't worth anything at all?
Thanks for the response...and my apologies to GDunit for inadvertently hijacking the thread.

**dmyre** · 11-15-2011, 01:20 AM

I think $800 is too much, unless you had a specific business plan already in place for the domain.
IMO, there's not enough natural type in traffic to justify that price.

**katherine** · 11-15-2011, 07:27 AM

I think you did the right thing. Many newcomers get carried away very easily and spend a lot of money on poor purchases (and too many domains).
My advice is to acquire domains that you would be willing to keep and develop. Most domains will never sell, assume this is the likely scenario.
There are plenty of opportunities to be seized every day. Don't look back. Take your time and pull the credit card when you're confident enough about your purchases. Good luck

**dcristo** · 11-15-2011, 08:22 AM

Smart decision IMO.

**bwhhisc** · 11-15-2011, 10:00 PM

I think you can better invest $800 unless you have a specific 'ammo' web site ready to go.

And....don't put too much stock in appraisal services.

**RTM.net** · 11-15-2011, 10:09 PM

I think ammo.org would certainly have been worth a $800 investment - if the $800 was available in your budget and wouldn't hinder other projects in your pipeline.

You didn't get it; you profited $800

Rob

**bigboydog_0** · 11-15-2011, 10:33 PM

Always go by your gut feeling!!! I do!!

**GDunit** · 11-17-2011, 05:58 PM

Thank you for all the different perspectives and input! Truly appreciate the support on this forum from all y'all... Turns out I am happy with my decision to hold off since I have picked up quite a few very nice drops that fall more in my areas of expertise. May need some direction on which ones to attack first but I will save that for another thread!