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Old 07-28-2004, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello, my name is Randy and I do networking and computer repair for a living. I would like to expand my services by selling domain names and web hosting. I have purchased a resale account from Wild West Domains, but what do I do now? I know little, to nothing about how to promote a website, or drive traffic to them. I recently have taken classes on web design, and did rather good. I now offer custom website design. I would really like to be able to pull in some extra income off of web hosting and domain name sales. I guess I am just having the starting up blues. Does anyone have any tips for someone just starting out in this business? :huh: Thanks for you’re your input and tips!
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Old 07-28-2004, 01:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

You willl need to do some homework first.

A good place to start is http://www.pendingdelete.info
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Old 07-28-2004, 02:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

Right, I should have mentioned that I have read about pay-per-click services, and I use goggle adwords right now. I have also tried programs like "TrafficBlazer" and "1'st position". But despite this, I still get a low hit count, maybe 2-5 hit's per day. The only online sales I have made are from people I have met in person while I was on repair calls. I see in this forum where people get 100's and even 1,000's of hits per day, and I don't see how any of that is possible! Is there a program, company, or website that actually works to get targeted customers to your account? Thanks for the link, it looks very helpful also.
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

What's the site name and members can run a check on possible reasons?
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

Sorry, I did not know if I could post the URL for sure. The URL is It is simply a mask for my reseller link, as I am sure you would know. Let me know what you think. Maybe a price drop is called for?
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

On the domain name per se, I think you should change your domain name to something like smart.biz :-D Obviously, the 4 word .com doesn't seem to have much, if any, type ins.
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

I think your right about the name. I went with that name simply because my successful computer repair business is SmartBizSites. So the link to my main site is *** So I simply picked ***. I will be changing my name as per your tip. But this time I am going to search around to try to find a much better one. Thanks for the Tip!

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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

welcome Randy...

all websites take time to develop traffic...take my new one:

Its been up a month, has 100 pages of content and gets 20 visits per day...

Traffic takes time, keep asking people for links to your website and getting to know people in the industry (getting an account here was a good start)

I would also recommend a new domain, something easier to remember and shorter, but that's your call. Maybe try a .biz domain...?

Just be patient and success will come if you work hard on getting links to your site.

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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

Well, after a few hours of looking, I have decited that I am not good at picking domain names. Do you think the domain name smartbizsites.net is a bad one? My main page is smartbizsites.com, and gets a lot of traffic from the local area where I run my business. Thanks for the help everyone! Im starting to feel better about this already. One more quick thing, Is Pay-Per-Click services like google's AdWords worth it? Thanks Again!
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DO NOT USE A .net DOMAIN

Adwords is probably worth it, depending on how much you are paying per click...
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

Ok, no Dot Net's. What is the reason though? How about smartbizsites.biz? I have that domain already.
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

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Ok, no Dot Net's. What is the reason though? How about smartbizsites.biz? I have that domain already.
Nets dead baby, nets dead (will make no sense unless you’ve seen Pulp Fiction)

Seriously, pick your name carefully, as later, after you’ve spent your hard earned $$$ marketing it, changing it will be very difficult and needless to say costly.


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Ok, no Dot Net's. What is the reason though? How about smartbizsites.biz? I have that domain already.
There’s no use for it anymore.

.com for business or .biz for business if you can’t get or afford the .com
.info for information
.org for organisations
.us, co.uk etc for country specific products/services


Tips for selecting a good name…

- Keep it short – no more than 12 letters is ideal, the shorter the better (generally)
- Use as few words as possible, one or two is great, three not so good, four (don’t even think about it! )


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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

maybe a us. would be a good idea?

maybe you should start a new type brand and get away from smartbizsites...

I dont know, I like Wildfire Design as a company name... (runs to see if WildfireDesign.com is taken)
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Re: Newbie trying to play the game

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.............snip ............Does anyone have any tips for someone just starting out in this business? :huh: Thanks for you’re your input and tips!
Yes Randy

Forget all about trying to sell registrations through wwd
You are being undercut on price all over the place.
Even the DNF will sell you wwd registrations cheaper than you can buy
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Interesting, I should have asked you guys BEFORE I bought the reseller deal. I would hope to at least get my money's worth back on sales from it.
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Forget all about trying to sell registrations through wwd
You are being undercut on price all over the place.
Even the DNF will sell you wwd registrations cheaper than you can buy
It doesn't matter. There will always be a bigger fish out there. You can still find your own niche market. For him, it might be his old customers.

Anyways, good luck.
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Right, I should have mentioned that I have read about pay-per-click services, and I use goggle adwords right now. I have also tried programs like "TrafficBlazer" and "1'st position". But despite this, I still get a low hit count, maybe 2-5 hit's per day. The only online sales I have made are from people I have met in person while I was on repair calls. I see in this forum where people get 100's and even 1,000's of hits per day, and I don't see how any of that is possible! Is there a program, company, or website that actually works to get targeted customers to your account? Thanks for the link, it looks very helpful also.
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