What % of Google Searches Would you guess don't use " " (exact phrase)? - DNForum - Domain Sales, Domain Forum, Domain Appraisals, Domain Registrars

Banned: Peachesbackwards · 01-15-2008, 08:22 AM

I was kind of shocked in a positive way that 2 of my ecommerce sites
are ranked #2 & 3 with a 2 word combination that has 500,000 & 600,000 hits using the two words in exact quotation search "key word" but still hold their
#2 & 3 position when the same 2 words are listed by themselves but not with quotations/exact phrase & have 1.5 billion & 92 million hits.

My question is what % of people do you guess use exact searches on Google & is the 1.5 billion & 92 million a selling point if I want to sell the websites when I mention my Google Ranking or not? As both sites are less then a few weeks old, I'd be selling them on the basis of potential. What do you think?

**dcristo** · 01-15-2008, 08:24 AM

<1% would use quotes. I pulled that number from my *** but you get the picture.

Banned: Peachesbackwards · 01-15-2008, 08:47 AM

So your saying that most people don't use exact word searches on Google? How come people here seem to use exact " " hits as their selling points rather then just word combination?

**dcristo** · 01-15-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Peachesbackwards

How come people here seem to use exact " " hits as their selling points rather then just word combination?

Because it shows the popularity of the exatch match phrase on the internet. Doing a search without the quotes can show results which are not related to the keyword.

**gawnd** · 01-15-2008, 08:54 AM

i'd say 99 percent of searches are done without quotes

**stock_post** · 01-15-2008, 08:56 AM

I would agree, most of them don't use quotes.
I did use them at times.. but considerbly rare

**acesfull** · 01-15-2008, 09:04 AM

I would agree that most people don't use quotes, but I would think at least 5% do use quotes - still a small percentage.

I thought it would be a good idea if Google put a "two-radio-button" choice next to the search box for "ALL MATCHES" or "EXACT MATCHES." (May be a good idea for people searching, but may be a bad idea to Google for their advertising-revenue, as it may limit results of paying advertisers?)

**draggar** · 01-15-2008, 09:10 AM

I'd agree, the majority don't use quotes (mainly because most people don't know about quotes).

I think in a forum like this, though, more people would use quotes (mainly because we know how to use it).

For me it depends on what I am looking for.

**Acro** · 01-15-2008, 10:14 AM

It doesn't matter if you use quotes or not. The exact phrase, as if you were typing it in quotes will always rank higher than random words from that string within a block of copy. So your numbers within quotes over the total numbers is a quotient that signifies the importance of the phrase. The higher the number, the better.

Banned: Peachesbackwards · 01-15-2008, 10:51 AM

Can you explain that better, nothing personal, I don't understand what you're saying.
In the example I used in my original post, assume the domain was KeyWord.COM
If I put in "Key Word" I get x amount of Google Hits and if I put those 2 words exactly the same with nothing before or after them, I get x more hits.

**thevirtual** · 01-15-2008, 12:09 PM

I don't think many people use quotes in searches. Sometimes it is necessary to use quotes if you only want the exact phrase instead of random results. Anyone who knows how to use a search engine uses quotes sometimes, also the + sign and the [] sign is used.

**Acro** · 01-15-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Peachesbackwards

Can you explain that better, nothing personal, I don't understand what you're saying.
In the example I used in my original post, assume the domain was KeyWord.COM
If I put in "Key Word" I get x amount of Google Hits and if I put those 2 words exactly the same with nothing before or after them, I get x more hits.

If you search for "bob goes fishing" in Google you get 254 results.
Search without quotes and you get 227,000 results.
But in both searches, the same top result contains "bob goes fishing" - as if you were to search with quotes.

**Varchar** · 01-15-2008, 12:52 PM

I say if you have some technical background, you will know when to use quote for exact match. Seriously the result is very different with and without quote.

Banned: Peachesbackwards · 01-15-2008, 01:00 PM

If more people use the Search engines without the exact phrase search, why do people here then seem to rely on the exact phrase when determining value at least for domains with two words in them?

**Acro** · 01-15-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Peachesbackwards

If more people use the Search engines without the exact phrase search, why do people here then seem to rely on the exact phrase when determining value at least for domains with two words in them?

Because a lot of people misquote the results e.g. RandomPiesSlice.com (random pies slice) - produces 69,000 results without quotes. WOW...(yeah right).
But without quotes there are zero results

**thevirtual** · 01-15-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Peachesbackwards

If more people use the Search engines without the exact phrase search, why do people here then seem to rely on the exact phrase when determining value at least for domains with two words in them?

People use quotes to determine value for a domain based on the popularity of the word or phrase. This has nothing to do search engine users.

I use quotes for single words also as there can be a difference in results without quotes.

Banned: domain newbie · 01-15-2008, 03:00 PM

i search with quotes for an exact keyword and profound results,

but i don't think average joes would use as they don't think they can use quotes

**hugegrowth** · 01-15-2008, 03:12 PM

the quotes tell you how popular a two (or more) word phrase is, to give you an idea of how commonly it's used by people. If you get a high result for two words in the exact order, it tells you it's highly used.

for example, google searches below

idol american: 1.78 million results

"idol american": 0.2 million results

american idol: 26.9 million results

"american idol": 26.5 million results

this tells me that the proper order for these two words is - american idol - , and that it's a popular phrase.

it helps me with non-english languages or new terms I've never heard, to get an idea of the popularity.

**mediawizard** · 01-21-2008, 03:26 PM

I'll assume except for domainers and other researchers most other people don't use inverted commas.

But when buying a domain or checking the potential of one I'm more than liable (99.999%) to use quotes to determine the exact number of "key word" results.

hugegrowth's example above is a fab one.