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**fab** · 01-24-2007, 04:36 PM

45k is definitely very good assuming it's real.
Using a hypothetical example:
computer science - this is a searched term
computerscience - is not a search term, neither is
computerscience.com
computerscience.org
computerscience.net
computer-science
therefore only the first would have any positive results.

**mgstudent** · 01-24-2007, 04:44 PM

Thanks for the reply.

So do you think it's worth registering doamins like this when I come across them? Even if it's word1word2.net? and not the .com?

In terms of making money, am I then to expect typein traffic and make money from parking it (probably more likely with .com)? or is there some inherent value whereby if I developed it with some content and stuck adsense on there then I could make money by having a lot of traffic - this traffic coming from being put high up in search engines because of my domain name (word1word2.com/net etc) being ranked higher for being closest to the search terms...

I hope this isn't too confusing and that you kinda get what I'm trying to say...
Just how to monetize domains, that are made up of highly searched keywords?

Thx

**fab** · 01-24-2007, 04:59 PM

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In terms of making money, am I then to expect typein traffic and make money from parking it (probably more likely with .com)?

Why would you expect type in traffic, especially .net. You probably would get traffic to .com, since some browsers will automatically add the .com if no tld was typed in, but .net probably won't get any except for other reasons, like a typo of something else popular.

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So do you think it's worth registering doamins like this when I come across them? Even if it's word1word2.net? and not the .com?

.Com definitely, .Net most likely. For something like this the best bet might be developing it. A well developed web-site, with strong key words.net should get good traffic.

Generally, I think parking is going to start fading away, and we will see more and more developed web-sites.

**mgstudent** · 01-24-2007, 11:28 PM

Thanks fab,

it is useful. At the moment I've spotted a 2 word .com for sale with an OVT score of over a million for those 2 words... plus google results show 900,000.

But the price for the domain is $3000.

I know it's a high ovt and a .com, but I wouldn't type this into a search engine, and I don't know how it would make any money other than resale.

It's crossed my mind that the ovt might not be accurate - not sure how to confirm that though. Are there any ways to confirm historical ovt's, for each month during last year say?

**hush** · 07-09-2007, 11:39 AM

Continuing the question from mgtstudent, I would also love to know the role of extension in keyword search. If example.com and example.net are both just parked, would the SE ranking differ?

**renesisx** · 07-12-2007, 12:41 PM

The search engines generally don't differentiate ranking based on extension, except perhaps locally, e.g. .co.uk might score higher in UK. That is just speculation.

.coms demand a higher price because they are more well-known in user's minds and because .com is pretty much the only domain that gets free type-in traffic.

If you're buying the domain for speculation, go for .coms. If you're buying a domain to develop it into a worthwhile site, then go for .net and save your money.

**HomerJ** · 07-21-2007, 08:26 PM

it is interesting that the overture site says "Estimated number of times that term was searched on last month", but they are now (July) showing results for January.

also, i was quite surprised, possibly amazed, (or maybe aghast) at how many of the the two word terms i entered returned no results.

**nizamani** · 03-16-2008, 09:50 AM

Let me try this feature
Thanks

**allroundguy** · 08-22-2008, 06:39 AM

The Two-Million Answer ...

Stats are worth what Believers think they are worth.
Statistics can be read (and usually do so) how people want: Bearish or Bullish.
Stats are always about past events, and extrapolation is usually wishful thinking.
A number of people put forth all sorts of arguments aiming towards self-fulfilling prophecy.
Unaware persons can easily step in purposely set traps or traps resulting from ignorance.
For advertisers it only matters is how many people do will buy anything from their business.
For the parked page hosting company, priority is what the advertiser pays out - And that usually depends mainly upon how many people click on the ad from that advertiser on the parked page.
So, step one is to direct people to the parked page.
But that is usually not allowed by the parking company: They usually tell You to not send people to that parked page!
People who know the url they want, don't need to search for it.
People who search for a product or a service, will type in words in their search engine until they find some url that catches their attention.
That does not mean they will visit that url., nor that they will click on anything there.
And, if they click on anything there, it does not mean they will pay for anything.
And if something is purchased, it is usually possible to cancel the purchase or there may be a charge-back.
Millions of hits, visits and clicks are only bandwidth waste if there is no profit.
Personally, I think parked pages are worth anything that is more than the registration fee.
If Your domain costs $8.95/year, then any return over $8.95/year is pure profit.
I found over the years never a parked page anywhere in the top 25 results of any search engine.
I never look further.
Must have used wrong keywords all the time.
On the other hand, setting up webs with just a few words got many of them with those words in the Top 5 SERP.
SERP is not easy, considering the existence of synonyms.
It could help to pay for sponsored advertising, but isn't it somewhat odd to pay for advertising a parked page with so many ads of competitors?

**LTroiani** · 08-22-2008, 07:16 AM

I've tried to use overture recently but I am redirected to the following page

http://sem.smallbusiness.yahoo.com/s...abr=2022403519

Is this just because of high traffic using overture, or is overture done/dead?

**biggedon** · 08-22-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LTroiani

I've tried to use overture recently but I am redirected to the following page

http://sem.smallbusiness.yahoo.com/s...abr=2022403519

Is this just because of high traffic using overture, or is overture done/dead?

yes, overture has been dead since Jan. 2007

therefore, any ovt results generated today, yesterday,or last month all reflect that time.

**rajs1ngh** · 08-22-2008, 09:30 AM

is there some other tool available like overture?????? Even for a price?

**biggedon** · 08-22-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rajs1ngh

is there some other tool available like overture?????? Even for a price?

i would say no

but i'm sure there will be someone who will claim they got such a tool to take your money.

like an "upgraded" version of their free tool!

**allroundguy** · 08-22-2008, 12:28 PM

For so far I understand, it is only possible for Overture and alike engines to find out how many searches there have been for certain character combinations within a certain period.
It does not mean that people searched for any of the urls. that showed up in the search, and it does neither say if anybody did visit any of the webs and why and what they did there.
IMHO statistics concerning traffic without origin or destination is only an indication for bandwidth usage.
If it is not shown from where the visitors came, and what they did, those visits are in many cases irrelevant.

The truth may very well be something like:
"The more searches with keywords [mumble ...] AND [grumble ...] do will yield a list of urls that contains any one or both keywords, but nobody knows in advance for sure where a given url will appear in the SERP."

**biggedon** · 08-22-2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allroundguy

For so far I understand, it is only possible for Overture and alike engines to find out how many searches there have been for certain character combinations within a certain period.
It does not mean that people searched for any of the urls. that showed up in the search, and it does neither say if anybody did visit any of the webs and why and what they did there.
IMHO statistics concerning traffic without origin or destination is only an indication for bandwidth usage.
If it is
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not shown from where the visitors came, and what they did, those visits are in many cases irrelevant.

The truth may very well be something like:
"The more searches with keywords [mumble ...] AND [grumble ...] do will yield a list of urls that contains any one or both keywords, but nobody knows in advance for sure where a given url will appear in the SERP."

when overture was working, you could search a term or actual domain, also it had the ability to search select countries as well.

if you searched a specific domain with the extension included and it yielded some results, you could be quite confident that the domain would get traffic.

though over time, with the overkill usage by domainers, some results became very suspect, but it still was a reliable tool to guage traffic.

users of ovt could have a level of confidence that all results were "type-in" traffic. the biggest issue is will it convert to $

**radioz** · 09-12-2008, 01:38 AM

Google's Ad Words tool is somewhat useful. It will at least give you a relative idea as the the use of a term and its viability as a PPC advertising term. You probably want to un-click the 'Use synonyms ' box and select 'Exact' for the search term for the most honest assessment of the popularity of the term.

Here is the address: https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

**fab** · 09-12-2008, 05:52 AM

This is a better tool:
http://google.com/insights/search/#

**lost plontoon** · 11-18-2008, 01:17 AM

I am just as confused as you are about this subject. I tried to put www.vouchers.to up for auction but it was not wanted. The auctioneer doesn't like the extension.

(Yet I have seen many 'sales' in .me and .asia extensions with meaningless words)

Type "vouchers.to" in Overture and 3,240,000 results come up.
Type in "vouchers" and 98 million come up.

Where is my understanding of this wrong?
Need more assistance on this topic please.

**Jdaly** · 12-03-2008, 11:32 PM

Vouchers.to?

You need to take into account where the traffic is coming from, US traffic for a good portion is the most valuable (though I'm sure some of you will disagree with me on this). To be honest, I'm putting this into google:

.to tld
.to cctld
buy .to domain

Maybe one of you can tell me what country .to is for but I imagine the traffic doesn't make much per click. All generics are not created equal.