How to get traffic for your parked domain

[edyst3]

Hi Guys

I have some domains parked with parked.com
I just want to know how you get visitor to your parked page.
Right now I am using adwords to get traffic.
but its cost expensive.

May be some of you have any suggestion to get lots of traffic to your parked page. Please share your tips and tricks.

Regards
Edy Subiyanto

[Rico]

develop > get traffic > park.

[edyst3]

Do you mean that I should develop a site with content to get traffic and then parked it ?

[Rico]

yes that would be a legit way to get traffic on your domain..
or you can buy traffic names, thats most easy way

[domainfun]

Right on. I think your post brings the issue of using adwords/other networks for parked pages on the table. As I myself have from time to time seen these parked pages being advertised using adwords, which from my general knowledge is a blatant violation against domain parking TOS (plus they're really disappointing and annoying), I've always wondered if it's really impossible for parking companies to detect such traffic source. Maybe
once such activity is detected, the parking account is closed? Or is it plainly a pain? I'd like other people/parking companies to help me understand this if possible. That would be greatly appreciated.

And to edyst3: no, you're NOT allowed to ACTIVELY generate "lots of traffic" using parking services. In fact you're not allowed to generate any traffic at all, even including things like sigs on forums. The traffic must be typein or expired backlinks. So yes, naturally the legit way is to have domains with traffic already, so development is crucial unless you have something like sexdotcom.

[Donny Simonton]

The topic of the day, arbritage. My definition of arbritage is the process of buying traffic from search engine A and sending it to a parking page/landing page/vertical page and hopeing that the surfer will click or buy from your page. In the domain parking business usually people go to Google and buy an ad and send it to a parking page that is using Yahoo. This is done because Google allows this to happen on their end, but Yahoo normally does not allow you to send traffic to a normal domain parking page.

I know of many companies that make millions of dollars a month doing this, something that may one day even go public. The biggest problem with this in my eyes, you are paying lots of money to make just a little bit of profit.

So people start going to second tier, third tier, and fourth tier search engines so they can pay even less. What happens with arbritage in all cases is that your traffic quality basically sucks. Sucks so bad that I have on many occasions seen people go from making $50,000 a month to $250 a month once I ban the search engines they are using.

I know of another person who recently came to us from another Yahoo provider who was booted from them because he had low traffic scores and all of his traffic was coming from Google and 2nd tier search engines. After I killed most of his 2nd tier search engines he's now doing very well with us, but he's only making a 10-20% margin.

Would I personally do any arbritage? I think personally think the risks outweigh the rewards, but it is not against our rules as long as you are sending traffic to the same type of domain. Sending traffic looking for car insurance and sending it to a car insurance domain is fine. But as I have said on many occasions, I have stopped people from sending us that type of traffic because it may seem like a quick buck, but it's really not.

Donny

[domainfun]

Thank you donny for taking the time to write about this. It has certainly broadened my horizon. But I'm still a bit confused as I kinda had the impression that PPC campaign/bought traffic is not allowed, which is stipulated in the TOS when I signed up with some parking companies. I just re-checked some of them, and it does seem it's not clearly prohibited with most companies with the exception of at least two companies: Parked and Namedrive. I'm not sure if I misread it or else, but here's from Parked TOS (2-f, 2-g):

f....
1. Permitted, compensated traffic can originate from two sources only:
2. type in (direct navigation) traffic and
3. existing search engine results/expired traffic.
g. All other types of traffic including bought traffic, traffic driven by PPC campaigns, traffic directed from hyperlinks are not permitted. If your traffic originates from any sources other than type-in and search engine traffic, you will not be entitled to payment as per this Agreement...

And here's something similar from Namedrive (Parking details-Traffic):

Traffic:
Traffic on domains parked with NameDrive can originate from two sources only: type in (direct navigation) traffic and existing search engine results / expired traffic. All other types of traffic including bought traffic, traffic driven by PPC campaigns, traffic directed from are not permitted. If your traffic originates from any sources other than type-in and search engine traffic, it must first be cleared with NameDrive LLC.

So you guessed it, my wonder is, have I misunderstood these or I have just taken them too literally? As you said "it's not against our rules", now from the TOS quotes above I don't see how it's not conflicting? I'm in fact not really against using ppc campaigns to drive traffic for parking pages, but just how to understand these terms correctly and do the right thing? (maybe the TOS should be edited to reflect the real scenario?...I don't know) :greenconfused:

Just for the sake of making the comparison here, most other companies that I checked (incl domainsponsor, trafficz, sedo, revenuedirect...etc ) only say things like this (with no mention of ppc bought traffic):

Publisher may not generate traffic to their website or Our links by any of the following methods: listings on newsgroups, bulk e-mailing, icq postings, or chatroom/irc postings, iframes, zero pixel frames, hitbots, clickbots, spiders, cgi-scripts, JavaScript, click farms or any other similar method.

Everyone please help with my confusions. I'd appreciate your thoughts greatly.

[DNjet]

domainfun, you were right in your assumptions ,you were reading it correctly, they write that in their tos so they can terminate your account if they want to without recourse , but they may choose not to as well, its really a descretionary statement on their part , they really don't want you to do whats described here , but as Donny stated in his post that Parked is allowing google adwords if used properly , but he is not allowing second teir ppc clicks like from goclick etc..to parked pages , but I doubt you will find any other parking company that will even allow what he is, probably get terminated if you try it anywhere else.

[Donny Simonton]

Lawyers, you can't shoot them because who would defend you?

Say you buy a domain and it's getting traffic from some website, do you think I or anybody would terminate your account? But if you make a for sale page and link to 100 of your domains and send a bunch of crappy to the for sale page, then I have the right to terminate your account based on the TOS.

DNjet - Ask around, I think a lot more parking companies that use Yahoo take this than you know. And I know of 2-3 that use Google that do the same thing.

But I will say that I have not terminated a single account to this day for somebody sending us arbritage traffic from google.

Donny

[domainfun]

Thank you both for sharing your knowledge. It's learning for me. "Discretion" is an absolutely important word...hmmm... I'll certainly think more on this.

[edyst3]

Hi Don

Thanks for your post. I'm learning much from your post about your parked.com policy. I use google adwords with traffic that is targeted. I'm using ads that visitor really looking for it.

For example I have lemontravel.com which is about travel and I parked at parked.com. I create ads which is about travel. So I send traffic which is really looking for travel.

So what do you think about it? Do I against your parked.com rules?

By the way, thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Regards
Edy

[windpop]

I use google's adwords to Parked.com
On Sep. 2006, I've paid $400 for adwords and get $950 from Parked.com
But my account was closed(6 months ago), So my revenue is -$400
Beforce my account was closed, I used adwords with parked.com nearly 4 months without any problem. I wrote to Donny, but he only reply that my converted rate is ZERO!
So, I don't think use adwords is a good idea. The risk is too high.

[Ronaks]

hi

as such this depends i have read somewhere adwords is allowed but that depends on luck if we work out we can get better results

thanks
Ronak

[mowd]

The best think to do, is develop a small website, promote it for a few months, then park it.

[ParkQuick.com]

Uhh - I don't understand this model at all. If you are going to the trouble of developing a site, then keep it developed! Put AdSense on it or something, but don't take a developed site and turn it into a parked domain. As soon as it devolves into a parked domain it will begin to lose search engine rank and traffic that it once had when it was developed.

The best think to do, is develop a small website, promote it for a few months, then park it.

[petrosc]

Uhh - I don't understand this model at all. If you are going to the trouble of developing a site, then keep it developed! Put AdSense on it or something, but don't take a developed site and turn it into a parked domain. As soon as it devolves into a parked domain it will begin to lose search engine rank and traffic that it once had when it was developed.

exactly - I don't get it either

[tonyfloyd]

i thought u park first.....figure out what u want to do....and then develop ....no?....why are some saying the opposite?...makes no sense

[Banned: AlienGG]

exactly - I don't get it either

It's easier to make money from parking than development.
For development, you have to put in both money and time on top of ideas, but parking needs zero attention and zero maintenance as soon as you have found the right keywords. Parking a previously developed domain is easy, as you know exactly which keyword to use. Now the point is which keyword makes you more money.
Most visitors are naive and know nothing about computer and this business model, and the internet today still lacks of proper websites to deliver what people are really looking for. Unfortunately, most good generic domains are undeveloped and parked.
When people have no where to go, they have to click on the ads on your parking pages. Most people ignore the fact that you actually earn money from the clicks. If they do, most of them won't click. The fact being that people hate to let you make money off them, even if it costs nothing to them, but some don't really care.

i thought u park first.....figure out what u want to do....and then develop ....no?....why are some saying the opposite?...makes no sense

Yes, you park first, develop, and then park again if you are not thinking to make it a billion dollar business.