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**VirtualT** · 02-13-2008, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc

Incorrect.

This is where the real money is made in arbitrage.

rubbish, a lot of arbitrage traffic converts as well as any other traffic

**petrosc** · 02-13-2008, 06:35 AM

adwords, ysm and msn traffic converts just as well, I agree

**ATP** · 02-13-2008, 07:55 AM

The biggest problem in arbitrage is the switching of keywords from low-paying to higher paying.
It's very rare when the same search term cost a lot differently on Google Adwords and Yahoo.

The common practice is to advertise a domain name such as paymusic.com (on which advertisers expects high conversions and is bidding high) like "free unlimited music" on Google Adsense for 0.05 USD per click, on content network, such a forums.

**Luc** · 02-13-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VirtualT

rubbish, a lot of arbitrage traffic converts as well as any other traffic

Yeah?? So you've purchased clicks from yieldmanager or ineedhits or i-web, pumped it to your site and generated lots of sales for yourself?

I doubt it, since the traffic they sell in their "financial" category comes no where close to the quality traffic generated on google.com for a financial keyword. How can you compare exit popup/popunder traffic, which is what they sell most of the time as categorized targeted traffic, to direct search traffic on google and say it converts the same.

It may convert for you as far as clicks, but it sure as hell doesn't convert for the advertiser and that's who Yahoo is trying to protect here.

**DavidAusman** · 02-13-2008, 02:01 PM

Didn't Donny said that he blocks traffics coming from less popular search engines except MSN, Yahoo and Google?

**CyrusL** · 02-13-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aboutwhat.org

Didn't Donny said that he blocks traffics coming from less popular search engines except MSN, Yahoo and Google?

No. Plus people with some basic skills can defeat all the referrer tracking anyway. The arbitrage was abused, which is why it is going away.

**DavidAusman** · 02-13-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CyrusL

No. Plus people with some basic skills can defeat all the referrer tracking anyway. The arbitrage was abused, which is why it is going away.

I can't find the thread where he spoke that, but I remember he said he'll blocks most search engines traffics except those big 3 due to lower conversion for advertisers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc

So you've purchased clicks from yieldmanager or ineedhits or i-web, pumped it to your site and generated lots of sales for yourself?

Have you ever seen parked's pages on those search engines?

**tonyfloyd** · 02-13-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aboutwhat.org

Didn't Donny said that he blocks traffics coming from less popular search engines except MSN, Yahoo and Google?

He said this many times...in posts..in PM's....why were others allowed this traffic???..

**CyrusL** · 02-13-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyfloyd

He said this many times...in posts..in PM's....why were others allowed this traffic???..

He's said several times not to run anything except Yahoo, MSN, & Google traffic, but I have never seen it blocked. Every time I've tried third tier traffic it's gone through fine. Again, I'm not calling out Donny for anything and he seems like a reasonable and cool guy, but this is the natural progression for the marketplace based on arbitrage abuse and advertiser's needs.

**hydroboi** · 02-13-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyrusL

He's said several times not to run anything except Yahoo, MSN, & Google traffic, but I have never seen it blocked. Every time I've tried third tier traffic it's gone through fine. Again, I'm not calling out Donny for anything and he seems like a reasonable and cool guy, but this is the natural progression for the marketplace based on arbitrage abuse and advertiser's needs.

I'm not even sure if he ever recommended Google, Yahoo or MSN as that would be against there terms, but i could be wrong!

**CyrusL** · 02-13-2008, 02:44 PM

http://www.dnforum.com/post3-post-1301657.html

**hydroboi** · 02-13-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CyrusL

http://www.dnforum.com/post3-post-1301657.html

Thanks for showing, but like i said, Donny never said to do it, in fact he said, i'm not saying to do it.

**tonyfloyd** · 02-13-2008, 03:49 PM

true.....but he all said he terminated many people who used 3rd or 4th tier.....but not ALL people.....i wonder who/what the exceptions were...

**donsimon** · 02-13-2008, 04:07 PM

Tony, We rolled a 13 sided die and if it landed on a odd number, then you were terminated.

It was mainly based on the TQ scores.

Donny

**Blue and Gold** · 02-13-2008, 04:14 PM

Tony I can answer that from experience. People who don't know any better in the start of their quest down this road. I was one of them. He wrote me a very stern letter advising if I did not change at once I would be terminated. No questions asked. If I remember correctly he gave me a week to do so. I changed and yes it cost me more but in the long run I made more. That also speaks volumes for Donny and Parked. He did not have to give me the chance but he (they) did. I honestly did not know any better and when informed I changed. That was close to 2 years ago I believe and I am still at least till tomorrow at least still making money. Not a real high figure but enough to make a difference in my life.

**tonyfloyd** · 02-13-2008, 04:15 PM

anyways.....doesn't matter now.......it's all over....right????...

**Acro** · 02-13-2008, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donsimon

Tony, We rolled a 13 sided die and if it landed on a odd number, then you were terminated.

Sounds like World of Warcraft. Is this you, Donny?

**Focus** · 02-13-2008, 04:39 PM

You guys just love beating a downed horse to death don't you..lol

Parking is still (and always was) based on the domains & domain traffic, not arbitrage, parked is still going to make alot of money...and so are all of it's customers!

Donny is the man...and we are all on the same team here brothers! 2008 is going to be a good year for all of us...even with small bumps in the road.

**donsimon** · 02-13-2008, 05:25 PM

Arbitrage as far as Parked.com is concerned is dead. We were told that we had to follow our TOS with Yahoo.

Acroplex - No WoW for me. I just couldn't come up with any other good answer.

Donny

**miraculix123** · 02-13-2008, 05:49 PM

It continues

, what is changing, is just the marketplace.

take your money from the domain market to the stock market and buy some xxxx ads aaahh meaning stocks of course

, there arbitrage comes from and there it goes to. but make your bid now, before it`s too late.

and once a day when the things are clear, it ........
(comes back

).

02-13-2008, 06:35 AM	#62 (permalink)
petrosc Name: Petros Last Online: Today 01:55 AM iTrader: (84) Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,636 DNF$: 2,130 Location: Czech Republic Country:	adwords, ysm and msn traffic converts just as well, I agree __________________ FREE SEO Course From The Guys Who Practically Invented SEO. Click Here Follow Me On Twitter: Click Here

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DavidAusman David Ausman Last Online: 08-06-2009 07:33 AM iTrader: (40) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 824 DNF$: 956 Location: 127.0.0.1	Didn't Donny said that he blocks traffics coming from less popular search engines except MSN, Yahoo and Google? __________________ Best Regard ~ David Ausman

02-13-2008, 03:49 PM	#73 (permalink)
tonyfloyd Wordpress Guru Name: Antonis Last Online: Today 12:15 AM iTrader: (58) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,505 DNF$: 10,811 Location: Greece Country:	true.....but he all said he terminated many people who used 3rd or 4th tier.....but not ALL people.....i wonder who/what the exceptions were... __________________ Web Design \| Italian Recipes \| Keyword Links

02-13-2008, 04:15 PM	#76 (permalink)
tonyfloyd Wordpress Guru Name: Antonis Last Online: Today 12:15 AM iTrader: (58) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,505 DNF$: 10,811 Location: Greece Country:	anyways.....doesn't matter now.......it's all over....right????... __________________ Web Design \| Italian Recipes \| Keyword Links

02-13-2008, 04:39 PM	#78 (permalink)
Focus Making Everything Click Name: Chris Last Online: Today 11:43 AM iTrader: (111) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 9,402 DNF$: 15,330 Location: Dirty South Country:	You guys just love beating a downed horse to death don't you..lol Parking is still (and always was) based on the domains & domain traffic, not arbitrage, parked is still going to make alot of money...and so are all of it's customers! Donny is the man...and we are all on the same team here brothers! 2008 is going to be a good year for all of us...even with small bumps in the road. __________________ Selling the tremendous domain name : FLUS dot com must see unbelievable price & opportunity! Hurry!

02-13-2008, 07:55 AM	#63 (permalink)
ATP Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 09-23-2009 02:04 AM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 32 DNF$: 170 Location: Romania Country:	The biggest problem in arbitrage is the switching of keywords from low-paying to higher paying. It's very rare when the same search term cost a lot differently on Google Adwords and Yahoo. The common practice is to advertise a domain name such as paymusic.com (on which advertisers expects high conversions and is bidding high) like "free unlimited music" on Google Adsense for 0.05 USD per click, on content network, such a forums.

02-13-2008, 02:44 PM	#71 (permalink)
CyrusL Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: 11-08-2009 10:48 AM iTrader: (13) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 320 DNF$: 2,747	http://www.dnforum.com/post3-post-1301657.html

02-13-2008, 04:07 PM	#74 (permalink)
donsimon DNF Regular Name: Donny Simonton Last Online: 11-17-2009 06:20 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,112 DNF$: 4,079 Location: Florida Country:	Tony, We rolled a 13 sided die and if it landed on a odd number, then you were terminated. It was mainly based on the TQ scores. Donny

02-13-2008, 04:14 PM	#75 (permalink)
Blue and Gold Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Steve Last Online: 07-15-2009 10:20 AM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 48 DNF$: 150 Location: Florida Country:	Tony I can answer that from experience. People who don't know any better in the start of their quest down this road. I was one of them. He wrote me a very stern letter advising if I did not change at once I would be terminated. No questions asked. If I remember correctly he gave me a week to do so. I changed and yes it cost me more but in the long run I made more. That also speaks volumes for Donny and Parked. He did not have to give me the chance but he (they) did. I honestly did not know any better and when informed I changed. That was close to 2 years ago I believe and I am still at least till tomorrow at least still making money. Not a real high figure but enough to make a difference in my life.

02-13-2008, 05:25 PM	#79 (permalink)
donsimon DNF Regular Name: Donny Simonton Last Online: 11-17-2009 06:20 PM iTrader: (1) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,112 DNF$: 4,079 Location: Florida Country:	Arbitrage as far as Parked.com is concerned is dead. We were told that we had to follow our TOS with Yahoo. Acroplex - No WoW for me. I just couldn't come up with any other good answer. Donny

02-13-2008, 05:49 PM	#80 (permalink)
miraculix123 Gold Lifetime Member Last Online: 06-19-2009 09:08 AM iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 32 DNF$: 100 Location: www Country:	It continues , what is changing, is just the marketplace. take your money from the domain market to the stock market and buy some xxxx ads aaahh meaning stocks of course , there arbitrage comes from and there it goes to. but make your bid now, before it`s too late. and once a day when the things are clear, it ........ (comes back ).

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