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12-05-2007, 10:51 AM
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DNF$: 0 Location: California | Problem with keywords Donny (or anyone),
I have a few generic domain names that I test different niches with. Whenever I change to a new niche, I get a few keyword categories that correlate to the new keyword seed, but I also get a LOT of old keywords that I have used in the past from different niches. For example, if i made the new keyword "Fishing boats", i will get a few related keywords to this, but a lot of old stuff like Chat, ring tones, etc...none of which have anything to do with my new seed, but all of which were once shown at this domain....but long ago. Is there a way to get rid of this "memory"? it's annoying to use the "Removed keywords" feature for almost 20 minutes straight and still not get anything that has to do with my seed.
Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
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12-05-2007, 06:31 PM
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Name: Donny Simonton Last Online: Yesterday 07:29 AM Join Date: Feb 2004
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DNF$: 2,875 Location: Florida
Country: | Zaan - First I have never used the remove keyword tool myself, not on a single domain. I personally think it's a waste but some people like it.
Our system is not supposed to store the learned data whenever you change the keyword on a domain, but I have sent something to the person who handles that so I won't know anything until tomorrow.
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12-05-2007, 07:42 PM
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Name: RG Last Online: Today 11:46 PM Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by donsimon Zaan - First I have never used the remove keyword tool myself, not on a single domain. I personally think it's a waste but some people like it. | I'm very surprised you dont use it...... The tool for me is a "must have" for domains that give broad results.
Question; Most results on a 1 click lander are relevant, but many times I'll see one or two completely irrelevant, is there anyway of removing them on my end or yours? |
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12-06-2007, 09:57 AM
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Name: Donny Simonton Last Online: Yesterday 07:29 AM Join Date: Feb 2004
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DNF$: 2,875 Location: Florida
Country: | Zaan - Changing keywords does not reset our learning system like I though it did. But those keywords would be removed over time as they are not clicked on. The other option is to tell your account manager to remove the option for a particular domain to learn from historical searches and clicks.
Raider - The reason I don't remove keywords is I look at it from the standpoint of why is a keyword on the page and see what I can do to improve the keywords that are on the page which would basically remove the "bad" keyword.
I do stand corrected though, we do own one domain that I have removed keywords from because it's one of those domains that if you look at it one way it's a TM and the other it's not a TM. So we removed any reference to the TM.
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12-06-2007, 02:27 PM
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DNF$: 0 Location: California | Donny....do you guys have some training of some type that we can take to learn how your system works? What you just said make sense, but I had no idea keywords change over time...all of this kind of stuff would be nice to know. Also, could you check my PM?
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12-07-2007, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Zaan Donny....do you guys have some training of some type that we can take to learn how your system works? What you just said make sense, but I had no idea keywords change over time...all of this kind of stuff would be nice to know. | Yeah, I've had trouble with one of my domain's keywords under categories changing too quickly...and I spent a lot of time with the delete keyword tool working to get the page just right. Days later, the CTR started to substanially drop. When I checked it out - it had several irrelevant keywords in place of the ones I left.
Regardless of whether people were clicking on those particular keywords or not, it was obviously turning them off to see irrelevant results. Is there a way for the system not to replace relevant keywords with highly irrelevant ones?
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12-07-2007, 11:01 AM
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DNF$: 0 Location: California | ...or even better, a way for us to set up the keywords we want, in the order that we want, and bypass the system. These keywords would not change. Obviously, they would probably not go live until they were reviewed by our account manager, but this would be great until the system works better.
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