Yahoo announces change in parking rev programs-- "most click charges to drop"

**Zaan** · 08-27-2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Poker

Seems strange that just before these changes my TQ score has gone from a steady 10 all thru July to a 4 in August.

I am experiencing the EXACT same thing. I have changed nothing in over a month and whats interesting is that if you look at the TQ graph, it trends pretty accurately with the Revenue Graph. That tells me that TQ has changed recently, and TQ is also directly linked to payments.

**chois** · 08-28-2009, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by donsimon

If you are a 7 to 10, I don't think you will see much a difference in the new system. 4 to 6, you will see a small difference. 1 to 3, you should probably look for a new business.

Donny

Hello boys and girls,

Long time no see.

My TQ used to be 10, yet there were ups and downs, now it is 3.

Last month, my TQ was 1.
Of course I didn't make any changes.

So, should I feel lucky because 3 is better than 1 or look for a new business.

**Vision** · 08-31-2009, 05:43 PM

Donny, thanks for explaining the transition --

perhaps, this "Parked" subsection here at DNForum can be the "go to place" as opposed to that other place

**David G** · 08-31-2009, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by chois

My TQ used to be 10, yet there were ups and downs, now it is 3.

Last month, my TQ was 1. Of course I didn't make any changes. So, should I feel lucky because 3 is better than 1 or look for a new business.

Ditto, I am still a 2 after being a 9-10 for a long time. My traffic is top quality and in good categories plus 90% U.S. based. There is no way it could not be good.

**Poker** · 09-02-2009, 12:12 PM

August pretty much suuuuuuucked...again, just before these changes my TQ score has gone from a steady 10 all thru July to a 4 in August and is now a 3.

**David G** · 09-02-2009, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by donsimon

1 to 3, you should probably look for a new business.

Based on what was said before (Yahoo told Donny) several of us in this thread should be looking for a new business

**Donny Simonton** · 09-02-2009, 10:03 PM

Yahoo is supposed to come out with one more set of TQ scores, before they are all based on the new system. I think everybody should really see how they do this week and especially next week which is when the new scores come out on Thursday.

Donny

**victornumber** · 09-03-2009, 04:55 AM

mine dropped also from a 10 for more than a month to a 2 recently.

**David G** · 09-03-2009, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by victornumber

mine dropped also from a 10 for more than a month to a 2 recently.

That's exactly what happened to me. Maybe we will be back to a 9 or 10 by next Thurs.

**chois** · 09-03-2009, 08:35 PM

Hi all,

My TQ is back to 10 from 3.

This means, I don't have to look for a new business, huh?

cheers,

Originally Posted by chois

Hello boys and girls,

Long time no see.

My TQ used to be 10, yet there were ups and downs, now it is 3.

Last month, my TQ was 1.
Of course I didn't make any changes.

So, should I feel lucky because 3 is better than 1 or look for a new business.

**cleverlyslick** · 09-03-2009, 10:28 PM

FML my TQ score is 0 lol

**Paralegal** · 09-11-2009, 08:45 PM

A "10" qualty score, which I believe has been the case every single week anything displayed since starting with Parked in April 2007, became a "2" yesterday. There's no reason for it except Yahoo screwing up.

**Focus** · 09-11-2009, 09:39 PM

Amazing a TQ goes from 10 to 3 overnight...Yahoo surely is'nt what they used to be..

**DomainsInc** · 09-11-2009, 09:49 PM

strange things indeed are going on with the tq.

**David G** · 09-12-2009, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Focus

Amazing a TQ goes from 10 to 3 overnight...Yahoo surely is'nt what they used to be..

Mine was a 9 to 10 range for at least 30 days in a row, then plummeted literally overnight down to a 2 where it languished for a few weeks, then dramatically skyrocketed all the way to an 8 overnight but a week later plunged back to a 2 where it now is

These wild gyrations can't be attributable to my traffic or domains since everything has been basically the same during the entire wild ride.

Yahoo TQ scoring seems bogus and BS to me. I am doing less and less business with Yahoo, especially YPN, where revenues are now so bad it's hard to believe.

**Donny Simonton** · 09-12-2009, 09:41 AM

Before Thursday the TQ system was based on a select number of keywords they kept calling it short tail keywords. As of Thursday all keywords are used to calculate your TQ score.

Donny

**David G** · 09-12-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by donsimon

Before Thursday the TQ system was based on a select number of keywords they kept calling it short tail keywords. As of Thursday all keywords are used to calculate your TQ score.

Donny

Thanks Donny for the reply thought I don't really understand what it means since I always thought the TQ was based on the advertisers reporting sales or conversions from the clicks and not the keywords themselves or their length?

Anyway, does that also effect WhyPark? I had a .01c click on a long-tail commodity daytrading name there, which was well optimized. I believe commodities trading keywords pay extremely well and probably ranks near the top as far as ppc values go so don't see how a one penny click is possible in that very good category? Was it due to the long-tail?

**DomainsInc** · 09-12-2009, 10:56 AM

I went from a 10 the past couple of months to no score at all. I don't get it. Strangest thing was I'm sure I saw a 10 score for 9/10/2009 but soon after it was gone and replaced with no score.

**Donny Simonton** · 09-12-2009, 11:04 AM

The TQ score has always been based on conversions at the advertiser level. Let me see if I can explain this a little better. Remember the old Yahoo directory or maybe DMOZ, it was a big category system that attempted to categorize all websites in the catgegory. If you really wanted your site to get a lot of traffic you did whatever it took to get in Yahoo's directory. But not all sites were in the directory, let's say just the top one million. That still meant that 75 million weren't in the directory.

So now back to the TQ system itself. Yahoo has this big category system and let's say the top 50,000 keywords are in the system and those are the only ones that could have a TQ score. And Yahoo only gave TQ scores if the keyword was in their system.

The new system allows all keywords to be able to have a TQ score. Understand, I don't have any manual on how the old or new system works. I've just pieced different things I've learned from different people together over the years.

This does affect WhyPark as well as all Yahoo partners. You will need to talk to the WhyPark staff about something particular with there system. I agree that commodites trading does normally pay very well. The issue could be where the traffic was coming from.

Donny

Originally Posted by DomainsInc

I went from a 10 the past couple of months to no score at all. I don't get it. Strangest thing was I'm sure I saw a 10 score for 9/10/2009 but soon after it was gone and replaced with no score.

There isn't anything wrong with no score. That just means that you don't have enough traffic to have a score.

Donny

**DomainsInc** · 09-12-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by donsimon

There isn't anything wrong with no score. That just means that you don't have enough traffic to have a score.

Donny

I thought all that was needed to get a score was having over 100 clicks per day? Would earnings the be the same with no score or a 10 score? I had no score for a long while and then started getting 10's every week. When i was getting these 10's I noticed my earnings really did increase. Now I have no score (despite my clicks remaining above 100/day every day) and earnings are back down again .