Suspend account for not PAYMENT

[gmedya]

IMO didn't send my payment. I sent tax form to them and they sent vertification code to me and all the thing was fine until payment. They waited for 45+ days to suspend my account. This is not classy. They says "traffic from an invalid source". If my traffic from an invalid source it was invalid same 45 days or 30 days before. Why they suspend it before payment. So I think I wasted my time, my revenue for 45 days.

[Ian]

Is your traffic from Asia eg. China, Turkey, Iran? From experience most PPC providers are suspicious of nearly ALL traffic from those places! Correct me if I am wrong!

[HOMEY1234]

Originally Posted by gmedya

IMO didn't send my payment. I sent tax form to them and they sent vertification code to me and all the thing was fine until payment. They waited for 45+ days to suspend my account. This is not classy. They says "traffic from an invalid source". If my traffic from an invalid source it was invalid same 45 days or 30 days before. Why they suspend it before payment. So I think I wasted my time, my revenue for 45 days.

Your traffic was all from Rotator Sites that YOU own. The reason it took so long to find was it was hidden very well & PURPOSEFULLY. We have no problem with traffic from foreign sources, but we will NOT pay for PTR or Rotator sites. Your account was BANNED with GOOD reason.

[domainah]

Originally Posted by gmedya

IMO didn't send my payment. I sent tax form to them and they sent vertification code to me and all the thing was fine until payment. They waited for 45+ days to suspend my account. This is not classy. They says "traffic from an invalid source". If my traffic from an invalid source it was invalid same 45 days or 30 days before. Why they suspend it before payment. So I think I wasted my time, my revenue for 45 days.

You pretend to be all innocent and YOU are basically costing all of us money with your fake traffic..you should not only be banned from every parking company but also from this forum ..

[alex75]

Originally Posted by domainah

You pretend to be all innocent and YOU are basically costing all of us money with your fake traffic..you should not only be banned from every parking company but also from this forum ..

Agreed. If your traffic was bad it was bad from the beginning, not just at payday...

And they did the same to me. Asked for tax info then suspended my account without to pay. Said "their cpc providers asked them to do so".

Odd, when they got my tax infos they suspended my account with another reason, and after just minutes.

Fishy?

[HOMEY1234]

Alex,

Your traffic was deemed fraudulent... Just that simple... Just because you sent the Tax information does not mean your traffic is GOOD. Move your traffic to somebody that doesn't care if you cheat them. We pay for GOOD traffic and on time ALL THE TIME. And we protect our good clients by removing the bad clients.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by gmedya

They waited for 45+ days to suspend my account. This is not classy. They says "traffic from an invalid source". If my traffic from an invalid source it was invalid same 45 days or 30 days before. Why they suspend it before payment.

This is what most parking companies do, if there are clicks that they deem suspicious, they know about it long before they terminate an account, why do they wait until the last day?, 2 reasons, One is to teach you a painful lesson and the second is so they can profit as much as they can.

I'm sure they rightfully terminated your account, from a PPC business perspective, "Two wrongs do make a right"

[alex75]

Originally Posted by Raider

This is what most parking companies do, if there are clicks that they deem suspicious, they know about it long before they terminate an account, why do they wait until the last day?, 2 reasons, One is to teach you a painful lesson and the second is so they can profit as much as they can.

I'm sure they rightfully terminated your account, from a PPC business perspective, "Two wrongs do make a right"

Well my traffic was ok. Anyhow, it's very fishy to ask for tax informations and once they got them they suspended my account.

Two wrongs NEVER do a right.

Move your traffic to somebody that doesn't care if you cheat them.

If my traffic from an invalid source it was invalid same 45 days or 30 days before.

You don't care either, from what I can hear in this forum and from what the poster above said. If my traffic was really bad, why is that you profited by it? And from the traffic of the started of this thread, for a whoping 45 days?

And we protect our good clients by removing the bad clients.

Is this the way you protect your "good clients" and your advertisers? By let those who you deem to send you "bad traffic" to continue to do so and then by not paying them?

What you said doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Banned: AlienGG]

I believe the revenue is usually refunded to the advertisers.
The feed providers wait until the end of the billing cycle to do an audit, that's when they find out about the fraud.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by AlienGG

I believe the revenue is usually refunded to the advertisers.

The keyword here is "usually", but definitely not always. Try parking the domains elsewhere that use the same upstream provider and see if they receive results, this will tell us if they reported it or not.

[HOMEY1234]

Originally Posted by AlienGG

I believe the revenue is usually refunded to the advertisers.
The feed providers wait until the end of the billing cycle to do an audit, that's when they find out about the fraud.

This is spot on... Last month alone ONE of our ten providers took back over $60,000 USD from fraud... And others as well. From the information in these reports as well as our own internal investigation is how we decide who/what is fraud.

Alex, You may PM me you account login and I will personally look into it for you... However if all you are going to do is toss around unsubstantiated tails, you won't get anywhere.

[alex75]

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[HOMEY1234]

OK Alex,

After researching this over the past few days here is the deal... EVERY name you had listed with us was marked as fraudulent traffic by MULTIPLE providers. Since you decided to make this public, I will also.

The traffic you sent to us in some cases was from the SAME MACHINE, SAME IP for different domains within YOUR ACCOUNT. Also the searches done from those pages that MADE 0 sense. For example; why would someone go to reliablecarinsurance.net to Search for and search for & CLICK ON terms like "reorder checks" & "credit card application" MULTIPLE TIMES AND from the same machine??? You claim your traffic is from FFA and SE's yet your referrer’s don't show any of that information?.?.?. I am sorry, but whether it was intentional or not; it IS FRAUD - PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Don't get me wrong... If this was only one or 2 names or one or 2 searches/clicks, I could see it happening.. but when that basically defines ALL your traffic; NO WAY!

Your PM was also interesting basically saying that if we pay you, you will edit your posts.... Hmmm, sounds a bit like blackmail to me.... Your combined income for months was barley 3 figures. Trust me when I tell you we don't need your minuscule fraud money, nor do we have it as it was taken away along with A LOT more over the last 3 months from several providers.

We will NOT be bullied by you, or anyone, to pay for traffic that is such BLATANT fraud by posting lies about our company and good name in a public forum.

[alex75]

Originally Posted by HOMEY1234

OK Alex,

After researching this over the past few days here is the deal... EVERY name you had listed with us was marked as fraudulent traffic by MULTIPLE providers. Since you decided to make this public, I will also.

The traffic you sent to us in some cases was from the SAME MACHINE, SAME IP for different domains within YOUR ACCOUNT. Also the searches done from those pages that MADE 0 sense. For example; why would someone go to to Search for and search for & CLICK ON terms like "reorder checks" & "credit card application" MULTIPLE TIMES AND from the same machine??? You claim your traffic is from FFA and SE's yet your referrer’s don't show any of that information?.?.?. I am sorry, but whether it was intentional or not; it IS FRAUD - PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Don't get me wrong... If this was only one or 2 names or one or 2 searches/clicks, I could see it happening.. but when that basically defines ALL your traffic; NO WAY!

Your PM was also interesting basically saying that if we pay you, you will edit your posts.... Hmmm, sounds a bit like blackmail to me.... Your combined income for months was barley 3 figures. Trust me when I tell you we don't need your minuscule fraud money, nor do we have it as it was taken away along with A LOT more over the last 3 months from several providers.

We will NOT be bullied by you, or anyone, to pay for traffic that is such BLATANT fraud by posting lies about our company and good name in a public forum.

I honestly don't give a sheesh if the IPs (as you say) were all the same or not. Yes I do posted on FFAs. By the way, as you said, my combined income for months was barely 3 figures. I believe a real cheater do make way more than these little amounts in months isn't it...

You are rude AND you do not know how to run the domain parking business, if you would, you would have known better about how to deal with all this issue, my traffic, etcetera. And why the heck you suspended my account after you got my taxes infos? All your CPC providers "reported" me at that same moment? If the traffic would be bad, it JUST would be bad, period.

All I can tell you is this: keep my "minuscule" money, but make sure to spend it all on courses to enhance your little knowledge about this business.

[Banned: AlienGG]

Originally Posted by HOMEY1234

OK Alex,

After researching this over the past few days here is the deal... EVERY name you had listed with us was marked as fraudulent traffic by MULTIPLE providers. Since you decided to make this public, I will also.

The traffic you sent to us in some cases was from the SAME MACHINE, SAME IP for different domains within YOUR ACCOUNT. Also the searches done from those pages that MADE 0 sense. For example; why would someone go to reliablecarinsurance.net to Search for and search for & CLICK ON terms like "reorder checks" & "credit card application" MULTIPLE TIMES AND from the same machine??? You claim your traffic is from FFA and SE's yet your referrer’s don't show any of that information?.?.?. I am sorry, but whether it was intentional or not; it IS FRAUD - PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

Don't get me wrong... If this was only one or 2 names or one or 2 searches/clicks, I could see it happening.. but when that basically defines ALL your traffic; NO WAY!

Your PM was also interesting basically saying that if we pay you, you will edit your posts.... Hmmm, sounds a bit like blackmail to me.... Your combined income for months was barley 3 figures. Trust me when I tell you we don't need your minuscule fraud money, nor do we have it as it was taken away along with A LOT more over the last 3 months from several providers.

We will NOT be bullied by you, or anyone, to pay for traffic that is such BLATANT fraud by posting lies about our company and good name in a public forum.

I hope you get rid of capitalizations. Every sentense you wrote strongly expresses your frustration very well. Such emphasis is unnecessary. It does feel rude in your way of response. IMHO, a more professional approach will sound way more convincing than these. No offense.

[alex75]

Also, you're kindly required to edit my domain name you posted on here. Is this how you protect the privacy of your domainers?

Originally Posted by AlienGG

I hope you get rid of capitalizations. It does feel rude in your way of response. IMHO, a more professional approach will sound way more convincing than these. No offense.

He's rude indeed, isn't him.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by alex75

He's rude indeed, isn't him.

I saw two shoplifters arrested for stealing clothes at the mall yesterday, police were very rude to them too, What the heck do you expect when you defraud advertisers?

We dont want people like you in this business, fraudsters like you are the reason our revenue has taken a major plunge this last year, Domainah is right, your costing all of us money with your fake traffic and should be banned from every parking company and this forum!

[Banned: AlienGG]

Originally Posted by alex75

He's rude indeed, isn't him.

Well, what I said had nothing to do with you though.

[Dr Nump]

Well , if Alex's traffic is bad , then his account suspended completely right.

The question is that : If his traffic bad , why imonetize keep it in 45 days , and suspend his account in payday ?

While imonetize keep saying they kick off bad clients to protect good clients , they keep those bad clients until they have to pay for them ! If imonetize really wanna protect "good clients" , they should ban those "bad clients" within 2 weeks or so , not nearly after 2 months! In this case , there are no good clients or bad clients , all clients welcome until the payday.

What almost all parking company currently doing is not protecting anyone , but maximizing their profit .

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Dr Nump

Well , if Alex's traffic is bad , then his account suspended completely right.

The question is that : If his traffic bad , why imonetize keep it in 45 days , and suspend his account in payday ?

While imonetize keep saying they kick off bad clients to protect good clients , they keep those bad clients until they have to pay for them ! If imonetize really wanna protect "good clients" , they should ban those "bad clients" within 2 weeks or so , not nearly after 2 months! In this case , there are no good clients or bad clients , all clients welcome until the payday.

What almost all parking company currently doing is not protecting anyone , but maximizing their profit .

I happen to agree, they know well in advance that this is happening but keep it going until payday, It maybe true that feed providers wait until the end of the billing cycle to conduct an audit, but if nothing is found, guess who keeps the money? In most of these cases, the click fraud is never reported to the advertisers or upstream providers, a sure way to tell is to park the domains with another PPC service using the same provider, and see if they receive results.