facebookpagedesign.com

[ClickHoldem]

Looking for your thoughts on this name. Development is underway, but was interested in getting some appraisals on the name alone, and how this name will benefit the development of a fan page design service...thanks.

CH

[iestates]

Considering they're suing Teachbook.com, a site that hasn't even started yet, I'd say about -$3,000,000 :/

Seriously though, I would consider dropping this domain immediately. I'd also suggest fbpagedesign.com instead.

http://mashable.com/2010/08/25/faceb...hbook-lawsuit/

[south]

Considering they're suing Teachbook.com, a site that hasn't even started yet, I'd say about -$3,000,000 :/

Seriously though, I would consider dropping this domain immediately. I'd also suggest fbpagedesign.com instead.

http://mashable.com/2010/08/25/faceb...hbook-lawsuit/

Agreed. Noticed that on the news earlier today myself.

[tekz999]

Negative $1 million value worth.

[MydomainPort]

good luck with this one, very risky

[Banned: adonivideo]

great name if you are up for a TM battle, and if done right, you can use it in the nice grey area of proper use wipo established for names like this

a. you're not saying you are facebook
b. you are allowed to say you do facebook web design

in fact, I would slap a TM on 'facebook web design' as soon as you launch

now if you dont' have money to fight FB over TM knowing you could WIN if done right, dump it

but if you want to be in that niche, yeah, you can use it and no way FB is gonna waste time on a C&D IMO

but if they do, explain clearly on site

you are NOT facebook and you DEVELOP facebook pages for celebrities, businesses, etc

so now if FB wants to purse a TM issue, IMO, if you do it right and have the right lawyers, you have no problem

IMO

now you do it wrong and freeze at the first C&D letter you get, then dump it

if you want to do facebook page design work, yeah, it has value to YOU as a user

if you want to only use it to sell adsense minor revenue, then do it right, and you could have a nice term with minor revenue

since it has potential problems, reseller value nil

if you develop it and get revenue from facebook design or adsense

then developed it is worth a multiple of you income

and IMO proper use of this is not a TM issue

now you can get lawyers to argue both sides of the coin all day on this

me, I don't usually use a TM in a domain, unless I own a TM on a word that is generically used with a TM

so yeah, using my name and a TM, I conduct business all over the world, and honestly, never got one C&D from a TM owner

the reason, I'm doing it properly and I'm a known vicious litigant not afraid to enforce my own TM rights

so you come on the net and have a TM and I have a TM and if I combine the two I can create a new TM

anyway, it is a potential TM issue, but, used the right way, it's not

and just because FB is trying to sue some startup doesn't mean they will sue a proper use owner

genericwordfacebook.com and facebookgenericword.com are not always a TM issue, they can if FB wants to pursue them, but proper use protects you

before you do any major development though, get a good TM lawyer and explain your goals

a. you want to do design work for facebook
or
b. you want to put out info on how to facebook design properly and make money from ads and or affilates (both allowed IMO on this)

as long as you are not saying YOU ARE FACEBOOK and don't 'compete' with their core business

no problem IMO, but get legal advice and setup a proper corporation to protect yourself IF you want to purse using a TMgenericterm.com

based on my own experience in using a TM I own in combination with TM's that are now common use phrases, I don't see any major problems you cannot win

but if you don't have money to spend on good legal advise and a way to see real income

waste of time for most

so depending on your use, could make some money

but I'd put my time and energy into something else

but development potential, with a lot of danger zones

so be careful

get expert legal advice

and yes, in some cases a TM can be used legally with a generic term

web design is an industry and not a 'tm' word alone

if it were, no one could say they do web design

so TMwebdesign.com is permitted IMO and it needs proper use to make sure you don't violate a TM right

so grey area here, not for the faint hearted and yeah, you could make money doing

a. facebook web design
b. affiliate or adsense revenue

so use is the only value here

none to resellers who will all be scared of the potential TM issues

so if you like to go against the grain

be careful

you have a right to use the name IMO

and some TM lawyers will say no you don't

and others will say, proper use allows use here

overall

nil value for reseller
potential value to end use only and then it's 36Xincomestream wholesale or 72xincomestream book value

PS read some of the argument facebook has against teachbook, the fact teachbook is a similar site but a niche market and USED facebook's name in advertising is the beef, the alternative to facebook for teachers, yeah that's improper use, so their gripe has nothing compared to this useage, they don't do web design, they're a social media portal, with lousy in house generated pages, and yeah X web design is a common phrase now, myspace, facebook, youtube, so anyone using them in web design industry isn't infringing, since those companies are not web designers and the use is giving the portal free advertising, so where is the 'unfair use'

until a court decides a similar use action against a web design service, it's a grey area and should be legal, but get legal advice if you want to USE it and make money, if you want to speculate on it, drop it

[ClickHoldem]

Thanks for the detailed response adonivideo ...I appreciate your insight. I plan to take all necessary actions to do this in a legal manner. I don't want to break any laws or violate any trademarks...I do feel I would only be providing facebook users with a quality service that would not only benefit the client, but it would only provide good results for facebook itself. I would be promoting web design services for the users of facebook...and that in no way would effect the facebook service. It would be an asset to the site. Once again...this will happen only if I am legally permitted to do so...time shall tell. Thanks again for your information.

[bmugford]

Ask Mike Mann about "Facebook" domains. Playing with fire.

Brad