Just Won CC.com oneBay..Was this price Good?

**rh287** · 03-05-2006, 11:41 AM

Not yet...I asked him to give a second chance offer to the second highest bidder (Common on eBay)...its only a $10.00 differance. I am a eBay Power Seller and have never not paid for anything. But You are wrong in one respect. Do you think the apprasal was accurate? If I thought it was a true apprasal from a human's perspective I would have bought it by now. But I found out after the fact that a script apprased that domain. How accurate can that be? I tryed it and it apprased one of my domains for 135K!

**David G** · 03-05-2006, 11:53 AM

You can not rely on appraisals in any way. Most all are way too high and worthless. The appraisal is no excuse for not buying the name. It was clearly disclosed as an IDN name. However, you could always say you did not know what IDN was and say seller did not go into detail on that for a novice to understand, which appears likely anyway, right?

This aspect is one reason I have zero interest in IDN. The number of sales resulting in chargebacks I am sure will be high.

**thefabfive** · 03-05-2006, 12:41 PM

This aspect is one reason I have zero interest in IDN. The number of sales resulting in chargebacks I am sure will be high.

These type of domains are the fly in the soup of IDNs. But they are not the majority. Mixed-script IDNs like these may very well be banned in the near future anyway. However, tools like Overture and Google searches can still be used and would easily identify a worthless domain like this IMO.

For example - put this domain (сc - this is the english 'c' and cyrillic 'c') into Overture and you get zero results. Put it in Google and it comes back with 34K page results. Put (cc - both english 'c') into Overture and you get 34K results, Google results in 134M page results.

**touchring** · 03-05-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by AHKIPSLIPKNOT666

If it not phising, it state clearly in the auction detail it is an IDN name. There are no trick or anything

huh, so you don't own the name, right? Nice start for a DNF newbie....

No, i am not referring to the intention of the user to Phish - Verisign places great emphasis on preventing registration of variant domains that look like each other.

In fact, if i'm not mistaken, it's already impossible to register a half cryllic domain if the pure latin equivalent exists. It will show as available, but upon registration, it will throw back "variant error".

Whether Verisign will cancel these disfunctional domains, no one knows at the moment. All we know is that these domains serve on real functional purpose, and can be used for phishing and scamming.

**David G** · 03-05-2006, 02:04 PM

Yes, Phishing is a huge additional fly in the ointment of IDN. Several times a week I get phishing emails using IDN names. When you hover over the link which leads to a site (tricking you to get your paswrd) the url looks like the real ebay or paypal or BankofAmerica, but if you go slowly and look VERY closely it's an IDN name with an almost invisible dot or other small character there, which most people would miss I am sure. God knows how many millions have been stolen using phishing idn's.

I may be wrong in saying this but what with looming high chargebacks from buyers who felt deceived (did not know what an IDN domain is) they were buying, or people ordering from an IDN site cleverly disguised as the legit site, and widescale fraud from phishing using IDN's I do not feel IDN's will be too successful as many here think they will. Again, I may be wrong, just an opinion.

**touchring** · 03-05-2006, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by trader

Yes, Phishing is a huge additional fly in the ointment of IDN. Several times a week I get phishing emails using IDN names. When you hover over the link which leads to a site (tricking you to get your paswrd) the url looks like the real ebay or paypal or BankofAmerica, but if you go slowly and look VERY closely it's an IDN name with an almost invisible dot or other small character there, which most people would miss I am sure. God knows how many millions have been stolen using phishing idn's.

I may be wrong in saying this but what with looming high chargebacks from buyers who felt deceived (did not know what an IDN domain is) they were buying, or people ordering from an IDN site cleverly disguised as the legit site, and widescale fraud from phishing using IDN's I do not feel IDN's will be too successful as many here think they will. Again, I may be wrong, just an opinion.

IDNs will become mainstream, but not so soon, maybe 4-6 year's time when most people have switched to IE7 and they sort out the security issue. I delete a hundreds of spam mails everyday, but i still use email. Life still goes on.