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  1. 02-17-2003, 07:27 AM #1
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    Lightbulb New Starter Help!

    Hi all,

    I am just getting going in this business and have bought a few domains to get my portfolio going. I also downloaded some appraisal software but the appraisals it comes up with seem to be a bit, erm, ambitious to say the least! Can anyone give me opinions on these......

    www.my-ferrari.net
    www.my-mini.com
    www.vicexxx.com
    www.vice-girls.com
    www.virgin-vice.com
    www.dontgotowar.com
    www.gulfwar2.info
    www.gulfwar-2.com
    www.buy-flowers.com

    I know its a modest collection to begin with, but hey, we all have to start somewhere!

    Thanks everyone for looking and for any help!

    Tamas
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  2. 02-17-2003, 08:22 AM #2
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    Hi Tamas, and welcome to the forum. These appraisals were done using an appraisal tool that was designed by member(mindful) and enhanced by member (mudfence) It was designed to provide a ballpark figure for today's market. The figures are subjective and may not reflect what you could sell your domain names for if you received an offer from a motivated buyer.

    And yes, these evaluations here will seem absurd in comparison to the figures you received using the software you downloaded. I'm guessing the software gave you around $3000 for buy-flowers.com? It is most likely the appraisal software that is outputing absurd evaluations.


    Domain Name: my-ferrari.net (trade mark issues)
    Key Words: my-ferrari
    Dictionary Words: 0
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 2,530
    Overture Hits: 0
    Total Hits: 2,530
    Market Rating: 0.0
    Length: 10
    Extension Rating: 2.5
    Length Rating: 3
    Popular Rating: 0
    Composite: 0.7
    High Retail: $0
    Low Retail: $0
    Wholesale: $0

    Domain Name: my-mini.com
    Key Words: my-mini
    Dictionary Words: 0
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 38,700
    Overture Hits: 0
    Total Hits: 38,700
    Market Rating: 0.0
    Length: 7
    Extension Rating: 5.0
    Length Rating: 4
    Popular Rating: 0
    Composite: 1.6
    High Retail: $20
    Low Retail: $15
    Wholesale: $5


    Domain Name: vicexxx.com
    Key Words: vice xxx
    Dictionary Words: 1
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 170
    Overture Hits: 0
    Total Hits: 170
    Market Rating: 0.0
    Length: 7
    Extension Rating: 5.0
    Length Rating: 4
    Popular Rating: 0
    Composite: 2.1
    High Retail: $60
    Low Retail: $45
    Wholesale: $14

    Domain Name: vice-girls.com
    Key Words: vice-girls
    Dictionary Words: 0
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 905
    Overture Hits: 61
    Total Hits: 966
    Market Rating: 0.0
    Length: 10
    Extension Rating: 5.0
    Length Rating: 3
    Popular Rating: 01
    Composite: 1.6
    High Retail: $20
    Low Retail: $15
    Wholesale: $5

    Domain Name: virgin-vice.com
    Key Words: virgin-vice
    Dictionary Words: 0
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 61
    Overture Hits: 0
    Total Hits: 61
    Market Rating: 0.0
    Length: 11
    Extension Rating: 5.0
    Length Rating: 2
    Popular Rating: 0
    Composite: 1.4
    High Retail: $10
    Low Retail: $8
    Wholesale: $2

    Domain Name: dontgotowar.com
    Key Words: dont go to war
    Dictionary Words: 2
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: no
    Google Hits: 62
    Overture Hits: 0
    Total Hits: 62
    Market Rating: 0.0
    Length: 11
    Extension Rating: 5.0
    Length Rating: 2
    Popular Rating: 0
    Composite: 1.9
    High Retail: $40
    Low Retail: $30
    Wholesale: $9

    Domain Name: gulfwar2.info
    Key Words: gulf war 2
    Dictionary Words: 2
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 1,860
    Overture Hits: 234
    Total Hits: 2,094
    Market Rating: 3.0
    Length: 8
    Extension Rating: 1.5
    Length Rating: 4
    Popular Rating: 01
    Composite: 2.4
    High Retail: $90
    Low Retail: $68
    Wholesale: $20

    Domain Name: gulfwar-2.com
    Key Words: gulf war-2
    Dictionary Words: 1
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 1,870
    Overture Hits: 234
    Total Hits: 2,104
    Market Rating: 0.0
    Length: 9
    Extension Rating: 5.0
    Length Rating: 3
    Popular Rating: 01
    Composite: 2.1
    High Retail: $60
    Low Retail: $45
    Wholesale: $14

    Domain Name: buy-flowers.com (hyphen really hurts)
    Key Words: buy-flowers
    Dictionary Words: 0
    Total Word Score: 0
    Extension relevance: yes
    Google Hits: 92,000
    Overture Hits: 3,697
    Total Hits: 95,697
    Market Rating: 2.0
    Length: 11
    Extension Rating: 5.0
    Length Rating: 2
    Popular Rating: 01
    Composite: 2.4
    High Retail: $90
    Low Retail: $68
    Wholesale: $20

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  3. 02-17-2003, 09:08 AM #3
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    I'd say buy-flowers.com is a decent name.
    All other names are not good at all.

    Good luck.
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  4. 02-17-2003, 09:54 AM #4
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  5. 02-17-2003, 12:21 PM #5
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    Hi all,

    Thanks for the advice! One question about my-ferrari.net. I have contacted lawyers and they all say its perfectly legal to have such a site as you cannot trademark the word ferrari as the company did not make it up - it is a surname. Would that make it worth something?

    Cheers guys and girls

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    Originally posted by tambyrne
    Hi all,

    Thanks for the advice! One question about my-ferrari.net. I have contacted lawyers and they all say its perfectly legal to have such a site as you cannot trademark the word ferrari as the company did not make it up - it is a surname. Would that make it worth something?

    Cheers guys and girls

    Tamas
    http://www.uspto.gov/main/trademarks.htm


    Current Search:
    S1: (ferrari)[COMB] docs: 122 occ: 287

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    Serial Number Reg. Number Word Mark Check Status Live/Dead
    1 78079571 FERRARI SHOP TARR LIVE
    2 78202327 FERRARI SNOWBOARDS TARR LIVE
    3 78113190 FERRARI STORE TARR LIVE
    4 78067704 FERRARI WORLD TARR LIVE
    5 78067724 FERRARI NET TARR LIVE
    6 78138040 ENZO FERRARI TARR LIVE
    7 78136506 ENZO FERRARI TARR LIVE
    8 78136493 ENZO FERRARI TARR LIVE
    9 76042685 FERRARI FERRARI IDEA TARR LIVE
    10 76368518 TIPO FERRARI TARR LIVE
    11 76477220 FERRARI PARTLOW JEWELRY ITALIAN ARTISTRY- AMERICAN ELEGANCE TARR LIVE
    12 76368138 FER. F. TARR DEAD
    13 76078541 2623076 FERRARI PERSONAL SERVICES TARR LIVE
    14 76420878 FERRARI GLOBAL TARR LIVE
    15 76071998 IDEA FERRARI OFFICIAL LICENSED PRODUCT TARR DEAD
    16 76387782 TIPO FERRARI TARR LIVE
    17 76243311 FERRARI-CARANO SIENNA TARR LIVE
    18 76042684 FERRARI FERRARI IDEA TARR LIVE
    19 75792990 2657612 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    20 75793674 2629713 FERRARI CHALLENGE TARR LIVE
    21 75817027 2627123 SCUDERIA FERRARI TARR LIVE
    22 75426698 2435553 A. G. FERRARI FOODS ESTD. 1919 A. F G. LA QUALITA NON HA TEMPO BORGO TARO, ITALIA TARR LIVE
    23 75412671 2559121 A.G. FERRARI FOODS TARR LIVE
    24 75410663 A.G. FERRARI FOODS TARR LIVE
    25 75564779 A.G. FERRARI FOODS TARR LIVE
    26 75792991 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    27 75792993 2531201 SCUDERIA FERRARI TARR LIVE
    28 75613606 FERRARI ENGINEERING TARR LIVE
    29 75793624 2511573 FERRARI CHALLENGE TARR LIVE
    30 75740869 ONE WORKPLACE L. FERRARI TARR DEAD
    31 75689720 2459051 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    32 75689719 2459050 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    33 75673793 MARANELLO - THE FERRARI CHANNEL TARR DEAD
    34 75659876 FERRARIS TARR DEAD
    35 75651189 2380802 ROSSO FERRARI TARR LIVE
    36 75599495 GINO FERRARI TARR DEAD
    37 75564780 2451496 A.F.G. ESTD 1919 A.G. FERRARI FOODS LA QUALITA NON HA TEMPO BORGO TARO, ITALIA TARR LIVE
    38 75488937 2337341 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    39 75485642 2307112 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    40 75426538 ESTD. 1919 A.F.G. A.G. FERRARI FOODS LA QUALITA NON HA TEMPO BORGO TARO, ITALIA TARR DEAD
    41 75426537 ESTD. 1919 A.F.G. A.G. FERRARI FOODS LA QUALITA NON HA TEMPO BORGO TARO, ITALIA TARR DEAD
    42 75410668 2464129 A.G. FERRARI FOODS TARR LIVE
    43 75365783 2278793 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    44 75330103 2278737 FERRARI COLOR TARR LIVE
    45 75259241 2352227 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    46 75190071 FERRARI TARR DEAD
    47 75114881 2113636 FERRARI TARR LIVE
    48 74415600 1905848 FERRARI PERLE' TARR DEAD
    49 74147863 2554415 FERRARI CLUB TARR LIVE
    50 74502632 1885015 PAMELA FERRARI TARR LIVE
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  7. 02-17-2003, 12:35 PM #7
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    Dr. Who,

    erm..thanks for the list. I already checked that link in my research and couldnt find any trademarks relating to "my ferrari". As you can see from the list there are countless businesses that use the word ferrari that have that as part of their trademark. As far as I am aware though there will be no trademark for the word ferrari on its own. Thats like saying that the name Smith can be trademarked to stop anyone else from using it.

    Thanks for the help though.

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  8. 02-17-2003, 04:28 PM #8
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    I only mentioned the trade mark issue because weather or not there is one, the chance that there is would negatively effect the value.

    My sence tells me that unless your name is Tamas Ferrari, why bother testing the F1 masters.

    Go to www.nissan.com , this guy's last name was Nissan and he used to sell computers from this site. Interesting stuff.
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  9. 02-17-2003, 04:43 PM #9
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    Your're welcome tambyrne.

    You may want to post your question in the legal section.

    Good Luck!

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  10. 02-17-2003, 04:47 PM #10
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    my-ferrari.net $0 TM
    my-mini.com $0 TM
    vicexxx.com $5
    vice-girls.com $100
    virgin-vice.com $0
    dontgotowar.com $0
    gulfwar2.info $0
    gulfwar-2.com $0
    buy-flowers.com $100
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