Robots dot asia - Appraisal Request

[aussiedeveloper]

First post on dnforum.com...

Wondering what people think robots dot asia might be worth?

Thanks

[brian1234]

Hi, welcome to the forum. The name doesn't have widespread or even reseller appeal, but if you can find an end-user (who really likes it) then I see no reason why you couldn't get $500-$1K for it. Good luck

[aussiedeveloper]

Thanks for that...

[stock_post]

Your chances for getting 500 to 1000 is slim to none

[brian1234]

Your chances for getting 500 to 1000 is slim to none

Contradict me if you must, but $1K is not a lot of money
to a business owner and it's a reasonable name that could
catch someone's attention.

Not everyone has a 5 Dollar Mr Cheap Seats mentality...

[katherine]

Problem is that there is zero demand for .asia domains.
We could say it's worth a conservative mid-$$$ but the odds of an end user popping in are null. So the name is virtually worthless.

A sale is unlikely. The only certainty is the renewal fees piling up.
In fact I think the extension is so bad premium .asia is an oxymoron. Good luck.

[stock_post]

Contradict me if you must, but $1K is not a lot of money
to a business owner and it's a reasonable name that could
catch someone's attention.

Not everyone has a 5 Dollar Mr Cheap Seats mentally...

if you are not Mr Cheap Seats mentally get a better membership.
or buy that domain at the price you appraised. (even the lower end is ok)

[brian1234]

We could say it's worth a conservative mid-$$$ but the odds of an end user popping in are null.

How do you know that?

Stating your "opinion" is one thing, and that's what this particular
forum section is all about, but making a sweeping statement like
"odds of an end user popping in are null" is absurd. You know no
such thing, no one does.

The OP is looking for an objective appraisal, not an embittered one,
that may be based on an individual's experience of selling domain
names.

Who's to say a buyer won't surface for this domain... Could it be a
robot manufacturer in the Far East?.. Who knows! I don't, and nor
do you... (I do know that I have sold worse domains than this 'tho
for around $1K).

[randomo]

Stating your "opinion" is one thing, and that's what this particular
forum section is all about, but making a sweeping statement like
"odds of an end user popping in are null" is absurd. You know no
such thing, no one does.

I doubt katherine would say she "knows" that. But it's long-winded to preface every statement with "In my opinion,"; when she says "the odds of an end user popping in are null", that is clearly her opinion.

[Gerry]

The fact that most industrial robotics are manufactured in Asian countries is a plus. That's the only plus. The .asia extension is not widely used. Plus, most Asian countries are fanatical about their own country's ccTLD (ie, jp, hk, cn, and so on).

Good luck with that.

[katherine]

(I do know that I have sold worse domains than this 'tho
for around $1K).

How worse ? And were they .asia domains ?

*Any* appraisal should take into account the likelihood of a sale (based on available market data, reported sales plus personal experience if any).
In the case of .asia domains the likelihood of a sale is very remote, in fact it's next to zero. The risk/benefit ratio is not worth it. I'm just being realistic.
Of course I'm stating an opinion but saying that .asia is a weak TLD is rather objective

Everything boils down to your sentence:

if you can find an end-user

That's the problem. Where are the end users ?

PS: welcome to DNF Aussie

[Hans.ii]

I doubt katherine would say she "knows" that. But it's long-winded to preface every statement with "In my opinion,"; when she says "the odds of an end user popping in are null", that is clearly her opinion.

hand raise with the same opinion... :( I bought lots of nice dot asia domain name and I admit that it was a wrong investment)

[brian1234]

hand raise with the same opinion... :( I bought lots of nice dot asia domain name and I admit that it was a wrong investment)

There are two elements in a domain sale scenario;
the seller, and the domain.

Largely, whether a domain name sells at all, depends
on the seller and their 'drive', sales and other personal
skills.

I say that if robots.asia was marketed at $500-$1K then
there is really no great need to see past performance (on
sales) on the .asia extension, as many buyers DO NOT
need to use that to discern value and DO NOT use it as a
bargaining tool in negotiations.

However, for those that do want to use it as a ref., here
are a couple of examples of fairly recent .asia sales, as
reported by DomainNameReview.com:


Credit.asia sold for $4,250
Cla.asia sold for $1,200
MapSearch.asia sold for around $1,000


Regards,

---------- Post added at 02:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 AM ----------

And here are the top 5 reported .asia sales in 2011,
according to DomainSalePrices.info:


1 mortgage.asia
$23,866.14
09 February 2011

2 real-estate.asia
$14,065.17
14 January 2011

3 loans.asia
$12,379.07
20 January 2011

4 pof.asia
$8,000.00
7 July 2011

5 ebusiness.asia
$2,700.00
04 March 2011

[katherine]

Sales take place in almost every extension. But a series of scattered sales do not equate a market.
Statistically speaking what are the odds of making a sale, that's one thing to consider when you're a domain investor. Not all extensions are equal.

The sales you quoted are interesting because they feature top keywords like credit, mortgage or real-estate. It is a kind of benchmark. Name like these would fetch at least 6 figures in .com but if they sold for low $$,$$$ in .asia it's clear the more average .asia keywords aren't really worth much.

Moreover, the most coveted keywords were auctioned off at the launch of the extension. So they were not available for reg fee.
I had a look at the auction reports.

real-estate.asia sold for $3760 so somebody took a chance and did well here.
mortgage.asia I can't find in the list so I have no idea of the initial price
credit.asia $10 - is that right ?

A few sales look encouraging, provided you own the very few 'flippable' keywords and even there is no guarantee of a sale.
Note that post landrush auctions there has been virtually no aftermarket activity... That is typical of newly released TLDs.
People speculate in new extensions without realizing they are the end of the food chain, unless they are the end user they will be left holding the bag.

The same source indicates that robots.asia sold for $855 in 2008. Assuming it's still in the hands of the same owner, I would say he/she has established the market value and the name is worth at least what he paid for...
But I think the OP will struggle to resell this domain for > $855.