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02-09-2006, 02:22 PM
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02-09-2006, 02:30 PM
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02-09-2006, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rarethings reg fee. | Thanks. But you're not serious... are you?  |
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02-09-2006, 03:15 PM
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Country: | Re: Sindicacion.com At first I thought it was a typo.. in which case I would agree with the reg fee appraisal, but since it's the Spanish word.. that's different.
I don't deal with foreign word .com's at all though, so I wouldn't be able to give you a fair estimate. There are a few people here who collect and develop these who I'm sure would be interested in the name.  |
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02-09-2006, 03:41 PM
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DNF$: 264 | Re: Sindicacion.com i was serious. Right now the spanish domain market is booming, but with a name like syndication, which isn't even a very popular english word (let alone the fact that most people have never heard of it), its spanish counterpart probably isn't worth all that much. You could develop it into an RSS directory, but I just don't see much value here. |
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02-09-2006, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Rarethings i was serious. Right now the spanish domain market is booming, but with a name like syndication, which isn't even a very popular english word (let alone the fact that most people have never heard of it), its spanish counterpart probably isn't worth all that much. You could develop it into an RSS directory, but I just don't see much value here. | Thanks for your explanation. It makes (a little bit more) sense now.
However I think that, after RSS boom, syndication has become a popular world in internet. I might develop it or wait until someone wants to buy it for a decent price, but it usually grabs the eye of potential buyers when they see it, so I was surprised of your "reg fee" answer.
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02-09-2006, 04:13 PM
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DNF$: 264 | Re: Sindicacion.com I wasn't trying to bash the domain, as you can see. It is a nice domain name. But other than development, or the right end-user coming along, its value is limited. But, if it was developed, (taking into account that you can compile rss feeds in spanish, and make a nice directory), then it certainly has value, especially to the chena/click diario/alternative domain market. |
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02-09-2006, 07:36 PM
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DNF$: 4,568 Location: Kansas City | Re: Sindicacion.com Actually this is the correct way to spell it:
Sindicación.com
And it's still available. I would get both if you are seriously considering building a website.
You can purchase it here. www.domainsite.com
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02-10-2006, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Rarethings I wasn't trying to bash the domain, as you can see. It is a nice domain name. But other than development, or the right end-user coming along, its value is limited. But, if it was developed, (taking into account that you can compile rss feeds in spanish, and make a nice directory), then it certainly has value, especially to the chena/click diario/alternative domain market. | Yes, I believe this name is worth a developing, so I will try to get the time for it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, really appreciated! Quote: |
Originally Posted by Sarcle Actually this is the correct way to spell it:
Sindicación.com
And it's still available. I would get both if you are seriously considering building a website.
You can purchase it here. www.domainsite.com | Im not really fond of IDN names, they're not working at the moment. And if they finally do (which I doubt) I would still prefer the non IDN version.
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02-11-2006, 02:42 PM
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Country: | Re: Sindicacion.com What's your rationale ?
FYI : IDN names work quite well  .
p.s. somehow I feel you have no rationale when you say something like "And if they finally do (which I doubt) I would still prefer the non IDN version." implying, it doesn't really matter what the reality is I like them apples better.... |
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02-11-2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bramiozo What's your rationale ?
FYI : IDN names work quite well  .
p.s. somehow I feel you have no rationale when you say something like "And if they finally do (which I doubt) I would still prefer the non IDN version." implying, it doesn't really matter what the reality is I like them apples better.... | My "rationale" is for SPANISH idn market... |
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02-11-2006, 07:29 PM
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Country: | Re: Sindicacion.com But what is your argument, your "rationale" ? I already guessed it was for the Spanish market but why would spanish be any different from german when it comes to IDN ? |
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02-11-2006, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bramiozo But what is your argument, your "rationale" ? I already guessed it was for the Spanish market but why would spanish be any different from german when it comes to IDN ? | I just saw the list of IDN sales in the link of your signature. How many spanish names there...?
Please dont treat me as if I was silly and good luck with your swahili names. This thread is for appraisals of Sindicacion.com (if it is not a very good name, let alone Sindicación.com). |
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02-12-2006, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pertosda Yes, I believe this name is worth a developing, so I will try to get the time for it
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, really appreciated!
Im not really fond of IDN names, they're not working at the moment. And if they finally do (which I doubt) I would still prefer the non IDN version. | They work fine in FireFox and also in the beta version of IE 7. ICANN is busy hammering away but you'll see IDN's everywhere soon. There have been a few high IDN sales. |
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02-12-2006, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pertosda The spanish for "Syndication.com"
All comments and appraisals welcome!
Thanks. | I like it, one word spanish .com domain that can be
used for internet syndication technology for Spanish
speaking population. I would say it's worth holding
onto for a good offer. To end user could be worth
in the mid to upper xxxx range. |
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02-12-2006, 05:47 AM
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Country: | Re: Sindicacion.com If your not silly then you're surely a bit hot tempered considering the aggrevated tone, good luck with your non-(spanish) idn's, I'll PM you when there is a noteworthy spanish IDN-sale..
IMO the spanish version will in time be of more value then the (incorrect) non-idn version.
About the term syndication.com, it's a modern technical term (it doesn't even translate back to my language) which in itself will not hold great value, there's no obvious product relation and although it's a generic term that relates to webservices I think the relation is to technical to give it a significant amount of (intuitive) type-ins. The value for the spanish (idn or not) will imo be mid $xx.
p.s. 1 billion people speak/read/write chinese, 1 billion people speak/read/write Hindi languages, but with Swahili you meant something else right....
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02-12-2006, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff They work fine in FireFox and also in the beta version of IE 7. ICANN is busy hammering away but you'll see IDN's everywhere soon. There have been a few high IDN sales. | Yep, I know they work fine in FireFox and they will eventually work in all browsers. What I meant is that they're not getting much attention (they're not working) in spanish market yet. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bramiozo If your not silly then you're surely a bit hot tempered considering the aggrevated tone, good luck with your non-(spanish) idn's, I'll PM you when there is a noteworthy spanish IDN-sale..  | I felt you were laughing at me with the tone of your first message and yes, I guess I am hot tempered. And I wanted to highlight that among your list of IDN sales in armenian, german, chinese and such, there was not spanish names. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bramiozo IMO the spanish version will in time be of more value then the (incorrect) non-idn version. | Pure speculation. You might be right, you might be not. Do you know spanish language? In some languages, an accent or diacritic on a letter may change the meaning of a word... well that does not happen for "Sindicacion", it means the same as "Sindicación" (though yeah the last is the proper way to spell it), so it doesn't make a big difference to type one URL or another. We will see if IDN names are completely succesful in future, maybe Sindicación will end up being better... not in a short term though. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bramiozo About the term syndication.com, it's a modern technical term (it doesn't even translate back to my language) which in itself will not hold great value, there's no obvious product relation and although it's a generic term that relates to webservices I think the relation is to technical to give it a significant amount of (intuitive) type-ins. The value for the spanish (idn or not) will imo be mid $xx. | Do you know how many spanish speakers are over the world? And how many spanish-speaking internet users? How many spanish-speaking bloggers? Does the term "sindicacion" mean anything to them? Well, maybe in the Netherlands you use the english word, but in spanish language there is a proper translation of "syndication" which is widely used (yeah, you probably dont use that one either in the Netherlands).
You say sindicacion "is a generic term that relates to webservices" and after that, you appraise it at mid $XX... alright (I fully respect your opinion though). Too technical? After weblogs boom, how many internet users are familiar with terms like "syndication" or "RSS"?
By the way, "sindicacion" in spanish is not a new word. It relates to politic movements as well, so it has another important meaning but, of course, you didnt know that. I like to hear all opinions but, please, dont pretend you know a lot about something you dont. Im not into IDN names (german, armenian, chinese or whatever), I just said I doubt about its success in spanish market and you laughed at me for saying so. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Bramiozo p.s. 1 billion people speak/read/write chinese, 1 billion people speak/read/write Hindi languages, but with Swahili you meant something else right.... | I never doubted of IDN future success (also current in a lower level) for languages like those, whose alphabet is non ASCII. However, I cant believe you are comparing them to spanish, are you?
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02-13-2006, 05:56 AM
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I felt you were laughing at me with the tone of your first message and yes, I guess I am hot tempered. And I wanted to highlight that among your list of IDN sales in armenian, german, chinese and such, there was not spanish names.
| No, I don't consider it a laughing matter, I was seriously interested  . Quote: |
Pure speculation. You might be right, you might be not. Do you know spanish language? In some languages, an accent or diacritic on a letter may change the meaning of a word... well that does not happen for "Sindicacion", it means the same as "Sindicación" (though yeah the last is the proper way to spell it), so it doesn't make a big difference to type one URL or another. We will see if IDN names are completely succesful in future, maybe Sindicación will end up being better... not in a short term though.
| It is speculation and you're right when saying that accents are (much) less important for spanish names then for languages from other charactersets but if I consider a normalization of IDN's over time, meaning ; full compatibility, resolved security issues and high surfer-awareness, it would only seem logical or natural that surfers would tend to type in the word that they write and read every day instead of the (slightly) altered alternative. For me the speculation comes from the normalization part, will it happen ? Quote: |
Do you know how many spanish speakers are over the world? And how many spanish-speaking internet users? How many spanish-speaking bloggers? Does the term "sindicacion" mean anything to them? Well, maybe in the Netherlands you use the english word, but in spanish language there is a proper translation of "syndication" which is widely used (yeah, you probably dont use that one either in the Netherlands).
| I would guess 500 million spanish speakers ? Let's say there are several million spanish bloggers, would they go to a general blog-related to site for technical info on syndication or would they type in syndicacion.com ?
I must admit now I think I was a bit of the mark with the appraisal; the commercial power of the term for spanish weblogging services is really in it's favor but then the downside is the fact that technical webrelated terms are generally sought after in english. Also considering the fact (which I overlooked) that it is an economic term for joined investments Quote: |
You say sindicacion "is a generic term that relates to webservices" and after that, you appraise it at mid $XX... alright (I fully respect your opinion though). Too technical? After weblogs boom, how many internet users are familiar with terms like "syndication" or "RSS"?
| Let me rephrase, it is a technical term for economics/weblogging but it is (for now) an unlikely term to be typed-in and overture suggest that the term is not particularly sought for. It is however a strong name for marketing purposes, I would want to have this name if I was running an investment company.
I thought the weblog has already boomed ? Quote: |
By the way, "sindicacion" in spanish is not a new word. It relates to politic movements as well, so it has another important meaning but, of course, you didnt know that. I like to hear all opinions but, please, dont pretend you know a lot about something you dont. Im not into IDN names (german, armenian, chinese or whatever), I just said I doubt about its success in spanish market and you laughed at me for saying so.
| I don't have to pretend I know a thing or two about appraising domains and given the information you gave this appraisal seemed fair but admittedly I have to say I was staring to much at the type-in quality  .
Because of the relation to venture capital I would give it mid $xxx for resale, mid-high $xxxx for enduser. Ok mid $xx was way of... %+| Quote: |
I never doubted of IDN future success (also current in a lower level) for languages like those, whose alphabet is non ASCII. However, I cant believe you are comparing them to spanish, are you?
| The underlying principal for accepting IDN's has imo in essence little to do with the characterset that is used but the practical importance for the non-ascii languages is evident and that will certainly speed up it's acceptance. |
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