Stop the stupid appraisals !

[beatz]

By looking at some of the recent "appraisals" in this forum i thought maybe it would be good to establish some kind of rule like if someone indeed is appraising a name they should at least in some way give a reason *WHY* they appraise a name high or low or the way they do.

I just don't see no sense at all in those appraisals that go like "$0." or "$10k minimum." or "$0 to reg fee" without any further explanation whatsoever.Seems to be the latest fashion here since a while.It's of no help at all,not for the domain owner,not for newbies that read those appraisals, not for anybody.Maybe these kind of appraisals are done because someone wants to appear as "cool" or as the "expert" without having anything to say for real actually?

I'd say if someone can't give a *reason* for their appraisal they should just refrain from appraising.Like in if you don't have anything to say for real, better say nothing.

All these meaningless appraisals make the board kind of "Afternic-ish" more and more.

[Biggie]

It's a point to consider. However, any posted response, to any
of my threads is appreciated, unless they attack me verbally,then
I don't care what they type-in. Whether it's $0, crap,nice,great, or
any adjective one can think of.

Web forums are classic examples of stimuli response. A sort of
virtual 'pavlov's dog' experiment. (psysch.201)

Want you want is more gratification,which proves you have submitted to this virtual experiment. Don't be mad, cause you want more than you're getting.
You get what you get , when you get it!

Biggie.us

[Banned: CoolHost.com]

"Maybe these kind of appraisals are done because someone wants to appear as "cool" or as the "expert" without having anything to say for real actually?"

Beats - I'll guess, by your inference, that you're naming me in the above statement. Is this true??
If true, please take a few moments out of your busy (drop(s) and/or Overture seeking) schedule, and read the posts. If it is your contention that I am simply appraising to the tune of "$0.00" and without leaving constructive comments/opinions, then you are either blind or ignorant, or both. Ask anyone. Read. Think. Above all, have a very merry Christmas!

[mastmnds]

I think placing 0.00 is not bad as long as you dont use it on everything. Who wants to appraise a shitty name when they can place 0.00 but for all the decent names place something better than just a number.

[Banned: CoolHost.com]

"I think placing 0.00 is not bad as long as you dont use it on everything. Who wants to appraise a shitty name when they can place 0.00 but for all the decent names place something better than just a number."

AMEN! Mastmnds not only being reasonable, but diplomatic, as well ... on such a fine Christmas Day! Kudos. Good Luck.

[mastmnds]

coolhost thanks contact me on aim mastmnds. i see ur n the Hosting business.

[Banned: CoolHost.com]

"coolhost thanks contact me on aim mastmnds. i see ur n the Hosting business."

K

[DotComster]

I'm in the Hosting biz to - host over 200 sites, average of 1,000 members each, some mentioned on WHT - some mentioned here - all appraised at zero

The appraisals here are NOT stupid, or silly - we appraise domain names - not sites - if we like a domain we say so, if we do not we say so to, or just ignore the post.

There is no rule of thumb here, nor are we paid - just us talking and saying what we think - that is all. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother

[Ed30]

DotComster is right. We have all made mistakes buying names that we shouldn't have bought - I for one will quite happily give a $0 opinion on a name if it deters the person who registered it from buying similar name and wasting their money. On the whole we do not take any pleasure in saying that certain names are bad, we just don't want people to waste their money.

[Ed30]

Originally posted by Ed30
DotComster is right. We have all made mistakes buying names that we shouldn't have bought - I for one will quite happily give a $0 opinion on a name if it deters the person who registered it from buying a similar name and wasting their money. On the whole we do not take any pleasure in saying that certain names are bad, we just don't want people to waste their money.

[Ed30]

Sorry for the duplication.

[Banned: ad-lib]

Beatz, shut the hell up. God, you been prancing around as if you are on some type of pedistal because you now own "WWF.com". Calm yourself with your weak ass complaining. Passing off your regurgitated advice.

[garyted51]

Who cares, as long as it is fun! I personally get a kick out of reading what others type. I don't think any of us know what a name is really worth, but lots of food for thougt in this forum. This is my favorite place to hang out!

Gary T........I know, Gary T...get a life.

[beatz]

Originally posted by CoolHost

Beats - I'll guess, by your inference, that you're naming me in the above statement. Is this true??

No.
I don't think i directed anyone specific directly, nor is it my intention or interest to put a light on anyones "appraisal history".
I just said and will say meaningless appraisals are just that - meaningless.
So if someone just says "$0" and *nothing else*(just a general example) in addition than that's a meaningless appraisal to me as it doesn't say anything about *WHY* someone thinks a certain domain is just worth that.That's not an appraisal - that's just an opinion about how much someone would be willing to spend for that very name or what he thinks other people would be willing to spend.Other than that it says NOTHING.
Not helpful, no reasoning,no nothing.
Same goes for "$10000 easily" or similar.

[beatz]

Originally posted by Onyx
Beatz, shut the hell up. God, you been prancing around as if you are on some type of pedistal because you now own "WWF.com". Calm yourself with your weak ass complaining. Passing off your regurgitated advice.

UH?

Maybe you wanna stay on the subject instead of firing off personal attacks.I did not attack or insult anyone.Just stated my opinion.

Period

Just to make it clear for those that can't read:

I'm not against appraisals in general neither did i say dnforum apparaisals would be stupid in general, i'm just against those kind of appraisals that give a figure or something like "crap." without delivering any background insight for that statement.That's what i mean by *stupid* appraisals.

[Desi]

Originally posted by beatz
By looking at some of the recent "appraisals" in this forum i thought maybe it would be good to establish some kind of rule like if someone indeed is appraising a name they should at least in some way give a reason *WHY* they appraise a name high or low or the way they do.

I just don't see no sense at all in those appraisals that go like "$0." or "$10k minimum." or "$0 to reg fee" without any further explanation whatsoever.Seems to be the latest fashion here since a while.It's of no help at all,not for the domain owner,not for newbies that read those appraisals, not for anybody.Maybe these kind of appraisals are done because someone wants to appear as "cool" or as the "expert" without having anything to say for real actually?

I'd say if someone can't give a *reason* for their appraisal they should just refrain from appraising.Like in if you don't have anything to say for real, better say nothing.

All these meaningless appraisals make the board kind of "Afternic-ish" more and more.

I can relate to what you just noted beatz. But the fact remains that this is one of those loosely structured, un(semi)-monitored voluntary activity where people pretty much say/post what they like. You talk about qualitative issues. Let me cite even a clearer example of rule violations and owner/moderator's tendency to look the other way since there's vested interest in "traffic" and not policing people off the forum.

The Forum Rules say:

"We will not allow posts containing obscene or vulgar language, these posts will be removed, and this could result in the loss of your community membership."

Now take a look at the most frequented section and many posted names for appraisal just in last couple of days (Hard Dick, ****Eve, Anal-Porn, Thank God for Pussy, etc) and all these are blatantly posted in the thread titles without any attempt at concealing some letters with **** or anything. Did moderators not see these or did the conveniently decided to ignore them?

Now coming back to the point you're trying to make. I guess to a large extent there's a self-selecting process both for those who post and for the readers. Some automatically gain attention and respect by the quality of their posts and I'd imagine, like myself, many would rush to read when they see they've a new post. On the other han, I guess some don't mind having a reputation that wouldn't even envy a four-legged creature...


P.S. Add "LongDick" to the above-list...

[domainAddict]

Originally posted by Desi
Now take a look at the most frequented section and many posted names for appraisal just in last couple of days (Hard Dick, ****Eve, Anal-Porn, Thank God for Pussy, etc) and all these are blatantly posted in the thread titles without any attempt at concealing some letters with **** or anything. Did moderators not see these or did the conveniently decided to ignore them?

Cmon desi, get real please. Since two of the mentioned domains belong to me, I feel like i have to replicate. If you feel offended by such words, then try to ignore them. You must understand that these posts aren meant to offend anyone. Im sure you know that adult business is the largest business on the web, and therefore we post domains containing adult words for appraisal. If they would be deleteing these threads, then this wouldnt be "domain name forum" anymore. Get used to the fact that large portion of the web is adult material which is not prohibited by the law. Im sure that rules that you have stated above are reffering to the obscene language where not appropriate, and harassment between the users, but certainly not to what kind of domains may be posted for appraisal here. Free speech, remember?

[Desi]

I respect free speech domainAddict. Actually, there's a very very simple solution and it's been noted before (but owner/moderator(s) have not yet decided to act on it) ; i.e. have a separate section for adult domains and related material.

[schmidte]

I'd rather have 10 replies of $0 than no replies at all. When you get no replies that means the name is lower that $0. How bummed do most of you get when you post a name to be appraised and see that after 2 days you get 0 or 1 replies. Sux don't it.

Why do we reg stupid names, because that split second we regged it, we had an idea in our head of how it might used for a website. We should explain WHY we bought the name and maybe the appraisers would have something more to base their values on. We should pretend the appraisers are possible purchasers and when we post a name, make a sale pitch.

I agree with ED30....."On the whole we do not take any pleasure in saying that certain names are bad, we just don't want people to waste their money."

my $0 worth.......................I mean 2 cents worth

[domainAddict]

Yeah, but that would just narrow down the amount of replies to domains on both sides, since people would divide to half..

Its pretty much like if youd say, "i respect black people, but lets sepperate them from us." Offcourse im just trying to illustrate the situation..

I think that no grown-up people should be offended by word co*k, di*k, etc in the title of the thread. But if you for some reason dont like them, then just dont click on those threads. Is it that hard?

PS: If you cant stay away from clicking these threads, then you shouldnt be complaining