typodomains.com

**yesonline** · 08-02-2002, 10:11 AM

Please appraise .
At typodomains.com you may buy and sell typo-domains . (not for now)

08-02-2002, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by yesonline
Please appraise .
At typodomains.com you may buy and sell typo-domains . (not for now)

Sorry, I see no typo here expect first four letters => "typodomains.com"

**IPatlas** · 08-02-2002, 02:21 PM

Every once in a while you guys offer a challenge like this one, a mind twister.
IT is interesting how users tend to make certain typo's when trying to type some famous domains.

But IMO, DOmains with typos in them are undesirable yet we are discussing a domain here that will cleverly catch those mistyped strays, or discuss their rarity, uniqueness, or to be facecious.

How can a domain buff's territory like a collection of typoDomains be turned down? I mean I tell you I'd go look for some clever typos or domain cinderella stories.

I don't think I would spend time researching typing patterns, variations and finger-slips at this point of time. On the other hand, to "catch" the 448 ppl who mistype "hotmaik.com" when trying to type hotmail.com so scoop 'em up scotty!

So, what you would do with TypoDomains.com?
Would you sell knockoffs of famous or trademarked domains or make it a museum of the funniest fauxpaus's?

Value $15.000 oops sorry $15.00 (typo)

domainscot · 08-02-2002, 02:35 PM

blah blau blau opps its a typo lol

**yesonline** · 08-02-2002, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by IPatlas

So, what you would do with TypoDomains.com?
Would you sell knockoffs of famous or trademarked domains or make it a museum of the funniest fauxpaus's?

Value $15.000 oops sorry $15.00 (typo) [/B]

Thank you for your comment:razz: , you could be right on it.
However, I think there could be a marketplace for trading typo-domains for some people's need, then this domain will worth some dollors more than reg free, oops, I mean reg fee

**IPatlas** · 08-02-2002, 05:31 PM

Yes I agree more that reg

**DropWizard.com** · 08-02-2002, 06:17 PM

I think you're all selling the concept short. This is a partial list of the typo domains I have

gehtto.com
vaigra.com
laywers.com
voyurs.com
amaturgirls.com
presonal.com
wetpussie.com
merrilynch.com
realestatexpert.com
weddingowns.com

One of the toughest things if you're trying to resell is getting exposure. A site like that would provide great exposure. Not lost in the millions of domains at other places. I give the concept a huge thumbs up!

joe · 08-02-2002, 08:01 PM

I know yaho.com gets a lot hits.

35000 a day or close to that, I bought traffic from it, but 60000 hits made no sale at all.

I know nuffin more......

08-02-2002, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by gmartfin
I think you're all selling the concept short. This is a partial list of the typo domains I have

....vaigra.com....merrilynch.com...

I give the concept a huge thumbs up!

Your domains "vaigra.com" and "merrilynch.com" are pure WIPO-bait.

Both are well-guarded TM's. Typo TM's are routinely transferred to the TM holders via ICANN arbitration.

Those names are liabilities to both reputation and possibly wallet.

Miles

**dotsofdomains** · 08-03-2002, 12:03 AM

Typosquat on descriptive domains all you want, but doing so on TMs is only buying trouble. At best, until the TM owner gets wind of your reg, you might sell it to someone without a clue re: IP law. Once the TM owner decides to fight, you are toast.

**DropWizard.com** · 08-03-2002, 02:14 AM

Lord you have to lead them by the hand

First off I am a viagra affiliate with permission to use their trademarks. Viagra only goes after those who abuse them such as sending them to porn sites.

Merrilllynch had a go round with me 15 months ago and lost.
Go to the site and you'll see how I beat them.

If you want to spout domain law make sure you know what you're talking about. I have one of the best domain lawyers in the practise (Howard Neu) and listen very very carefully to him.

08-03-2002, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by gmartfin
First off I am a viagra affiliate with permission to use their trademarks. Viagra only goes after those who abuse them such as sending them to porn sites.

Merrilllynch had a go round with me 15 months ago and lost.
Go to the site and you'll see how I beat them.

I have one of the best domain lawyers in the practise (Howard Neu) and listen very very carefully to him.

Interesting that viagra would affiliate itself with a typo, but if it works, it works.

As for Merril Lynch, I wonder what you mean by a "go round"...not UDRP, obviously...is this an issue that was taken to civil court, or was it just a bigfoot letter followed by correspondence?

And by the way, Howard doesn't win every case...remember fisher.com?

Miles

P.S. And anyone who knows domain "law"--UDRP, ACPA and Lapham--knows the domains I pointed out are risky, TM-wise. Sounds like you got lucky. But I definitely wouldn't count on such luck in similar situations...and I think the historical outcomes of "domain law" battles support this.

**DropWizard.com** · 08-03-2002, 02:45 PM

Nope Howard doesn't win every case.

But I'm sure you'll agree there are few better than him in the domain arena

Merrill Lynch walked away from WIpo and court because......

my name is Merri Lynch.com Theirs is Merrill Lynch.com

Merri is not Merrill and doesn't even sound the same.

In fact I couldn't even find the name Merri in any names books. Which makes it unique or rare (whichever) so.....

I wrote a short story on a children's character named Merri Lynch. Copyrighted it. Posted it and added non-competing affiliate links

Result Merrill Lynch walked. They had no case! Had they gone on the possible newsworthiness of a large company fighting a copyrighted non-competing childrens book welll.........not good I think from their perspective.

And there's enough traffic on the domain to make keeping it worthwhile. It was a unique solution.

With regard to Vaigra. This is a point of law that it seems many domain owners don't know. If you are a licensed user of the trademark. In this case viagra. If the trademark holder has not registered their trademark... you can. And there is nothing they can do about it. And to the extent that you deal in trademarked product you can use a Tm. Let's say I sell used cars. Ford and Chev etc are TM's. However I can use it to advertise a Ford Mustang or a Chevy Tahoe. As people do in the newspaper all the time. This is not a violation. You can use it to "reasonably" identify the goods you sell. With or without their permission. It's a reasonable use as long as you don't call yourself a chevy dealer or intimate that you represent the TM holder. These are fine distinctions but mean the difference to being able to use a TM name or not.

08-03-2002, 02:56 PM

I find the comment that viagra allow affiliates to use infringing names hard to beleive; they recently went to arbitration of wwwviagra.com, which the respondant had been using to sell viagra.

http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/deci...2001-1455.html

08-03-2002, 03:09 PM

gmartfin,

The problem is, you have now given them all the ammunition they would need by showing a pattern of infringing registrations and intimating the merri lynch story is just a cover to prevent them bringing a udrp. And you did this on a *public* (read spiderable) board.

**DropWizard.com** · 08-03-2002, 03:11 PM

Look at the defense he raised.

In this case I think it was a clear case of typo squatting. with traffic from their main site. I don't blame viagra for reacting. However he never raised the defense of being a registered affiliate with the right to use the viagra TM.

WIPO is like a court. It can only (I know they stray on this point) consider the evidence placed before it. The user never raised that defense. In fact it is apparent from his pleading he never even talked to a lawyer.

As far as I know I don't believe Viagra has ever pursued another case except for misuse of traffic IE sending it to porno sites etc. Anytime I have seen a Viagra WIPO it has revolved around those circumstances. But then I haven't read every case.

08-03-2002, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by gmartfin
Look at the defense he raised.

In this case I think it was a clear case of typo squatting. with traffic from their main site. I don't blame viagra for reacting. However he never raised the defense of being a registered affiliate with the right to use the viagra TM.

strange argument, you own "vaigra.com" which is little different to something like "wwwviagra.com". Its still "traffic from their main site".

**DropWizard.com** · 08-03-2002, 03:25 PM

Safesys

The site went up as Merri Lynch.com There has never been any other use. I explained why "they" walked away and the reasoning.

Writing is always something I've wanted to try my hand at. My reasoning that Merri was a unique name suitable for a book character was sound at the time I registred it. I actually ressearched the name Merri before taking it. I was delighted to find it almost unique. That in my mind was a real kudo for developing any character. After all how many MIKE HAMMERS do you know or BUZZ LIGHTYEAR. Trying to find something unique or memorable is a real chore.

Nothing has changed. However to the extent this is a public board I take your point. Little point in giving them something to hang their hats on.

As for a "PATTERN of TM violations I disagree. There are circumstances where using TM are perfectly legal and represent a sound business opportunity. But you have to know the law and understand where the line is.

08-03-2002, 03:29 PM

Sorry, but that story doesn't sound plausible to me - especially not from a traffic convertor like yourself.

So how do you expect a judge/jury/panel to take it in light of the other typos you have shown?

TM law and UDRP both revolve around bad faith and there is enough in this thread for a finding for that.

**DropWizard.com** · 08-03-2002, 03:34 PM

Well then I guess Viagra.net should have been a target. Strangly enough I tried to buy it last year. The guy wanted 8k I offered $750. He refused and then later let the name lapse this year.

Also the ORG is held privately.

Strange that Viagra hasn't taken on those ones if you're right!''