americanexpress.mobi & amex.mobi

[broe-foe]

americanexpress.mobi
Useful site for American Express customers.

Amex.mobi, not the same company, but a useful site there too!

[Acro]

My American Express never advertised the .mobi
No wonder: it redirects to the .com

[Vision]

Broefoe,

I appreciate your enthusiasm with respect to dotMobi.

BUT, two points:

1.) Amex.mobi is owned by a domainer

2.) American Express promotes AmexMobile.com, not AmericanExpress.mobi
https://www201.americanexpress.com/smsweb/un_Faq.html

Michael

[Raider]

amex.mobi.... Maybe they should of used .Name for this one instead.

americanexpress.mobi... Another dot com redirect.

2 more examples of why we DONT need .mobi.

[broe-foe]

[QUOTE=
americanexpress.mobi... Another dot com redirect.
2 more examples of why we DONT need .mobi.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you're right again. I can't put one over on you Raider, you're too sharp! I'll call American Express today and tell them they should hype the .com redirect (https://www99.americanexpress.com/myca/mobl/us/?r=l_l) instead of americanexpress.mobi. They should have known that https://www99.americanexpress.com/myca/mobl/us/?r=l_l is much easier for their customers to remember than that silly americanexpress.mobi. Damn, you're good!

And you're right again when you say "2 more examples of why we DON'T need .mobi." WE don't need .mobi, but American Express feels that THEY need it. I'll call American Express immediatey and tell them there's a .com domainer over at dnforum.com username "Raider" that knows much more about corporate marketing and customer needs than those silly high-paid Madison Avenue advertising agencies, lawyers, and consultants that American Express delegates that authority to.

No offense Raider, but you know squat compared to the experts that run the PR and advertising needs of major corporations. No offense meant.

I'm glad YOU don't need .mobi. Perhaps that's why end users were able to reg their .mobi trademarks in the first place and make good use of their domains.

Originally Posted by Acro

My American Express never advertised the .mobi
No wonder: it redirects to the .com

Yes, you're right, it redirects to https://www99.americanexpress.com/myca/mobl/us/?r=l_l

You guys are just too smart for me. I can't put one over on you!

[Acro]

broe-foe, I'm not sure what's the point of being sarcastic. We are being pragmatic: these companies don't advertise their .mobi portals, because to them it's a fad, an add-on, a gimmick. Up to an extent, Bank Of America advertised their mobi portal at bofa.mobi but again, I don't see a reason to visit it when it redirects to the .com

When I see the buses and subway stations plastered with .mobi URL's, that'd be the time that I'll post these here as something exceptional.

[broe-foe]

Originally Posted by Acro

broe-foe, I'm not sure what's the point of being sarcastic. We are being pragmatic: these companies don't advertise their .mobi portals, because to them it's a fad, an add-on, a gimmick.

Let's be clear here. The point of sarcasm is to highlight how you're willing to spew spin, exaggeration, and ego trips. Like you really know WTF "these companies" are doing regarding advertising strategy. Puh-leeeze. At least you're admitting .mobi is a fad. That's a long way from "another .info." And in case you hadn't noticed, just about every advertising campaign and corporate marketing plan takes advantage of gimmicks, add-ons, and fads.

"We are being pragmatic ..." No you're not. You're being disingenuous, both of you. Otherwise, you'll be glad to tell us how you know what goes on in American Express's or BofA's marketing strategy meetings. What? They didn't invite you to those meetings? I'm shocked.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by broe-foe

No offense Raider, but you know squat compared to the experts that run the PR and advertising needs of major corporations.

Yeah, they probably do know more than I do, so what? Does that mean .mobi is going to be this great success? the next .com? What you FAIL to realize is these companies are covering their a*ss, In the corporate world it would be irresponsible of them NOT to.

And as Acro pointed out, where is the advertising of these corporate mobi's? Where are the BofA ads? The Obama ads? ESPN ads? It seems the only people that see them are mobi speculators like you.

Nobody is going to find MOBI if it's NOT advertised.

Amex.mobi has a 118 hits and I'm sure most of them were from this thread alone, What does that tell you?

[Acro]

Originally Posted by broe-foe

Let's be clear here. The point of sarcasm is to highlight how you're willing to spew spin, exaggeration, and ego trips. Like you really know WTF "these companies" are doing regarding advertising strategy. Puh-leeeze. At least you're admitting .mobi is a fad. That's a long way from "another .info." And in case you hadn't noticed, just about every advertising campaign and corporate marketing plan takes advantage of gimmicks, add-ons, and fads.

"We are being pragmatic ..." No you're not. You're being disingenuous, both of you. Otherwise, you'll be glad to tell us how you know what goes on in American Express's or BofA's marketing strategy meetings. What? They didn't invite you to those meetings? I'm shocked.

Of course .mobi is not another .info. Info's are good

Again, your posts are confusing because they attempt to be funny when they are simply whining.

[broe-foe]

Originally Posted by Raider

Yeah, they probably do know more than I do, so what?

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but it means they know more about which TLD to brand in, which TLD has the most potential to do well. Yes, it's true, their advertising experts know more about TLDs than a bunch of domainers.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by broe-foe

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but it means they know more about which TLD to brand in, which TLD has the most potential to do well.

You can make the same argument that Sprint, Verizon, Att, TMobile and other carriers, know more about which TLD to brand in They know so much that they DONT use .Mobi!

You knows much more about corporate marketing and customer needs than those silly high-paid Madison Avenue advertising agencies, lawyers, and consultants

Why dont you share with us the marketing logic WHY these Wireless carriers DONT have a Mobi site?

You would think with all the new phones and handhelds that come to market, the wireless carriers would have a .Mobi site for their MOBILE phones right? A site where users can shop for a new phone or upgrade their service with a click of the button.

You would think that right?

[broe-foe]

Originally Posted by Raider

Why dont you share with us the marketing logic WHY these Wireless carriers DONT have a Mobi site?

I really don't know. They didn't invite me to their strategy meetings.

But once again you spew BS. Let's review use of .mobi by Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, ATT:

1) Sprint.mobi resolves to nothing, you're right!

2) Tmobile.mobi resolves to http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/, so you're wrong there.

3) T-mobile.mobi resolves to http://ghs-internet.telekom.de/dtag/...TMOI/en/343728, so you're wrong again. In fact, it looks like T-mobile.mobi is actually a mobile site, so thanks for sharing that with us.

4) Verizon.mobi resolves to http://www22.verizon.com/content/FiO...8k84drs6gw5duf, so you're wrong again. Verizon.mobi is different than verizon.com.

5) ATT.mobi resolves to http://www.att.com/gen/landing-pages?pid=3308, which is different than the page ATT.com resolves to. You're wrong again.


Done with you. Good luck, you'll need it.

[sdsinc]

Originally Posted by broe-foe

4) Verizon.mobi resolves to http://www22.verizon.com/content/FiO...8k84drs6gw5duf, so you're wrong again. Verizon.mobi is different than verizon.com.

Inactive domain.

[Irish31]

These .Mobi threads are kind of depressing (and a bit pathetic). The suffix isn't going anywhere anytime soon, trust me.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by broe-foe

But once again you spew BS. Let's review use of .mobi by Sprint, T-Mobile, Verizon, ATT:

Your the one spewing BS... What dont you understand about this line;

Why dont you share with us the marketing logic WHY these Wireless carriers DONT have a Mobi site?

You FAILED to do that because you CANT. NONE of the sites listed here are Mobi sites, NONE!

Originally Posted by broe-foe

1) Sprint.mobi resolves to nothing, you're right!

Yes, and add to the fact that Sprint used waitless.org in a TV commercial and not Mobi.

Originally Posted by broe-foe

2) Tmobile.mobi resolves to http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/, so you're wrong there.

No your wrong, Tmobile.mobi is inactive.
NO MOBI SITE

Originally Posted by broe-foe

3) T-mobile.mobi resolves to http://ghs-internet.telekom.de/dtag/...TMOI/en/343728, so you're wrong again. In fact, it looks like T-mobile.mobi is actually a mobile site, so thanks for sharing that with us.

It's NOT a Mobi site, You buy Mobi's and you dont know what a Mobi site looks like?
NO MOBI SITE

Originally Posted by broe-foe

4) Verizon.mobi resolves to http://www22.verizon.com/content/FiO...8k84drs6gw5duf, so you're wrong again. Verizon.mobi is different than verizon.com.

Another lie.. Verizon.mobi is inactive.
NO MOBI SITE

Originally Posted by broe-foe

5) ATT.mobi resolves to http://www.att.com/gen/landing-pages?pid=3308, which is different than the page ATT.com resolves to. You're wrong again.

It resolves to a dot COM, NO MOBI SITE.. WRONG again.

Originally Posted by broe-foe

Done with you. Good luck, you'll need it.

You start a thread and you cant take the heat? You post sarcastic BS of why corporate giants like AmericanExpress know what their doing by choosing .Mobi, but the corporate giants that DONT use Mobi, you cant answer for... Instead, all you can come up with is;

Originally Posted by broe-foe

I really don't know. They didn't invite me to their strategy meetings.

Your a true Mobier.. A legend.

[fab]

I really don't understand what's wrong with the concept of having a separate TLD for mobile devices. I can see that they're not moving right now, but theoretically what's wrong with the idea.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by fab

I really don't understand what's wrong with the concept of having a separate TLD for mobile devices. I can see that they're not moving right now, but theoretically what's wrong with the idea.

Because it's useless...

http://www.fyo.ca/index.php?name=New...article&sid=29

[fab]

So why are there so many tld's anyways. AAfter .com, got the ccTLD's, .net, .org, .info, .biz, and a ton other. Seems like they're all selling.

[sdsinc]

Fab, one of the key foundations of the WWW is device independence. In simple terms the WWW should display on any user agent (browsing device) even at the cost of graceful degradation).
.mobi is the only TLD that goes counter that concept.

If you think it's a good idea to balkanize the WWW why not a .braille TLD, or a .iphone or a .firefox optimized and 'guaranteed to work on your favorite browser'. It's called market segmentation. Mobile users are a market segment.
Keep in mind there's no such thing as a mobile standard and the distinction between handheld and desktop has already blurred.

.mobi isn't going anywhere, not even on par with .biz. At the very best, it's going to remain as a niche TLD a bit like .tv. The diehard supporters need to come to terms with reality: dot mobi is not gonna get big and mingle with the established extensions.
.mobi is not even the gold standard within its dedicated realm of mobile Internet. Just another TLD.

PS: I own at least one name previously owned by Amex. If they can drop a .com after 4 years, why wouldn't they ditch a .mobi after it's been squeezed to the last drop

[Acro]

Kate, I'm impressed by your use of "balkanization" I wouldn't have said it better myself.