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    Auction of 100 Premium dotMobi domains on SEDO this month!!!

    The rules are good for .mobi I think..


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    Thanks for the info.
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    on a quick glance i noticed 2 domains spelt wrong.

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    I guess most of the dot mobi fan are NP members:

    I just see the same anouncement posted at the same time received 92 posts and +1,150 viewers in NP ... compared with 3 posts and 57 views in DNF.

    The difference is really huge!

    Definitively the audience is not the same in both forums and each one have his role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybertonic View Post
    I guess most of the dot mobi fan are NP members:

    I just see the same anouncement posted at the same time received 92 posts and +1,150 viewers in NP ... compared with 3 posts and 57 views in DNF.

    The difference is really huge!

    Definitively the audience is not the same in both forums and each one have his role.
    This is a smart business forum... we ride out the hypes. like we did with the .eu launch

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    Quote Originally Posted by -X- View Post
    This is a smart business forum... we ride out the hypes. like we did with the .eu launch
    err, Very Interesting

    Quote Originally Posted by WEBecri View Post
    The rules are good for .mobi I think..


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    Thankyou for the word WEBecri How are you doing BTW, Its been a while. Keep up the good work with DotMobiz
    Last edited by biggedon; 09-26-2007 at 08:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -X- View Post
    This is a smart business forum... we ride out the hypes. like we did with the .eu launch
    Translation: If we don't talk about it, there is a better chance of getting one of these beauties at a better price.

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    Scandiman translation ... LOL

    ...

    That's true there are a LOT of very appealing names in the list.
    And I plan to bid several of them ... LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by cybertonic View Post
    Scandiman translation ... LOL

    ...

    That's true there are a LOT of very appealing names in the list.
    And I plan to bid several of them ... LOL
    Na, they're all crap, being mobi's and all. Don't waste your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -X- View Post
    This is a smart business forum... we ride out the hypes. like we did with the .eu launch
    Agreed 100% -X-

    Indeed like Scandimen said,

    DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON BUYING .MOBI DOMAINS FROM mTLD


    It is a money grab from the mTLD, the bastards

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    Well, they're in the domain business and aren't running a charity. Seems like they are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing, that is, making a profit from their domains. I forget who said it but the old arguments against mTLD is like domainers being upset that other domainers are behaving like domainers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandiman View Post
    Well, they're in the domain business and aren't running a charity. Seems like they are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing, that is, making a profit from their domains. I forget who said it but the old arguments against mTLD is like domainers being upset that other domainers are behaving like domainers.
    Oh really? I thought the domains were to be released based on development / RFP merit LOL

    good luck to all, I say you got about 1 month left before the new $8.95 / 2 year pricing kicks in..

    I already laugh my ass off with the .mobi sales of vision and others.. Seems the market is very "ripe" LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroulis View Post
    Oh really? I thought the domains were to be released based on development / RFP merit LOL
    I don't know..

    Now, according to mtld's "requirements," anyone who wins one of these auctions will have to agree to the following:

    - Domain to be registered by auction winner within 10 days of receiving authorization code
    - Site to initially consist of a dotMobi-compliant parking page
    - Best efforts to create, launch and operate a live web site with relevant content within six months. (For example, acupuncture.mobi should not display a site for car sales.)
    - Fully compliant site with an http://ready.mobi score of at least 4/5.

    I got this info from here: http://mtld.mobi/domain/premium/auction

    Whether or not this will actually be enforced is beyond me. Personally, I wouldn't mind getting one of these and developing them, but I'm pretty sure that my budget won't allow me to. I'm kind of against this auction, considering that for months we were told that there would be an RFP process for these names, and now I have a bad feeling that we're going to see 100 more flowers.mobis.

    Who knows...

    I'm going to happy hour now, bye


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    Quote Originally Posted by maroulis View Post
    Oh really? I thought the domains were to be released based on development / RFP merit LOL

    good luck to all, I say you got about 1 month left before the new $8.95 / 2 year pricing kicks in..

    I already laugh my ass off with the .mobi sales of vision and others.. Seems the market is very "ripe" LOL
    Well, there was one successful RFP to date, weather.mobi. Since I don't have access to the other 3 RFP documents, I can't comment accurately on what happened to them.

    The current batch of Premium auctions discussed in this thread has some stipulations attached, the highly condensed version basically says, if you don't use it you loose it. That is a substantive move towards encouraging development of these names and I commend mTLD for making this a part of the deal. mTLD has maintained from the beginning that auctions is an option for them to distribute their Premium domains, so I don't see what the problem is. They are a for profit company, how dare they make a profit!

    Thanks for your reg fee prediction, not only does it have zero impact on me other than possibly making renewals less expensive, but I don't see what it has to do with this thread. Nor do I understand why you take pleasure in deriding the domain sales of fellow members.

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    "Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
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    Maroulis, little off OP no? 'll do business with vision anyday, good names, honor an courtesy come to mind with dealing with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVFARKAS View Post
    Maroulis, little off OP no? 'll do business with vision anyday, good names, honor an courtesy come to mind with dealing with him.
    not really.. me and vision go a while back no ill feelings...

    I know it might come as a surprise to you but I've told you before! You're not on the 2 people list I hate @ DNF
    Last edited by maroulis; 09-14-2007 at 11:35 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    I got the notice from sedo in the mail as well...
    and it will be an interesting event to watch...
    I currently own less than 100 .mobi names in my portfolio of 1000's...
    I rarely venture out past .com....

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroulis View Post
    not really.. me and vision go a while back no ill feelings...



    I know it might come as a surprise to you but I've told you before! You're not on the 2 people list I hate @ DNF
    This will come as a shocker. I don't hate you. Just the method and modality you choose to tell us how much you hate mobi.

    It is the same song and dance routine. Mobi thread, I hate mobi, must tell them so. Kind of kinky and obsessive in a robotic kind of way.

    We know, we get it already. Very clear.

    It should be equally clear that there are many (albeit an apparent minority on this forum) who do not hate mobi. Ergo a mobi sub thread.

    I could have chosen to come up with some clever story or line to counter, but why bother. Why bother defend my position on why I chose to purchase one mobi to begin with. If you can not see the future and the purpose, you won't. Thought clever graphics might say it for me. Plus, I just found them a few hours prior. Pretty Gruesome. Looking for Halloween stuff. The part of "laughing my ass off" was too good to pass up.

    I don't even check the mobi thread. I log on and look for new posts. If mobi threads appear, chances are I am already aware of the news. If the thread is alive and keeps popping up, then perhaps its additional news or someone has a question.

    That is why you will find me all over the forum. The other night I was involved with two mobi flame wars, one legal matter and question asked of me by JBerryhill, helping an entrepreneur 16 year old that lives about an hour from me with a press release statement, and discussion on different phones. All of this adds up, as Samantha likes to always point out, the number of daily post. Plus, working 12 hour night shifts, it gets down right boring and dead (not a good metaphor in my line of work) and I am often on here any and every time of day...like now.

    Thus, the nature of my being here. I have a lot to learn and I might even be able to assist others. I am hardly the guru on domains and domaining. But with teaching experience in the arts and photography on a college level, having been a professional designer and illustrator and advertising executive, now in my second profession in the medical field, still used as an advertising consultant by many top notch national and international companies (beauty is I can pick and choose my free lance jobs) and having been affiliated with advertising in one form or another for more than 30 years, I might have a few things to offer.

    It is also the same bullshit that I see day in and day out on these forums, not just this sub forum, that has kept me away from any such forum all these years. Some garbage and 'rules' and advice being offered up to experienced domainers as well as newbies from 5 and 10 years ago. If it still was 1995 or 2000, I'd still be doing the same thing, same investments, same strategy in life, living, stock market, and domains. But the times have changed and so hasn't the rules of the game.

    In the spring of 2006 I sold all my shares in a large REIT. Bad move, I was told by many. There is a housing boom, markets are skyrocketing, double digit quarterly returns. Now is not the time to get out, stay in, you'll be sorry.

    But marketing trends and conditions and my own study and analysis was not as reassuring as the broker, the accountant, and others that I knew had also bought into this stock and other large national builders and REIT's.

    Little did I know that when I sold only full shares were sold. A single partial share remained. That means I am still a shareholder.

    Two days ago in the mail, I received notice of a Board of Directors decision without shareholder vote to approve the sale of a controlling interest to a finance group for 49% voting equity and a 51% economic interest at a cost of $0.18 per share. Investors have defaulted on $30.9 million on margin calls, the company defaulted on a $90 million note due, and they have a grand total of $6.1 million dollars to cover this. Truly devastating and remarkable numbers. Shares are worth mere pennies and they have 6.1M liquidity to 120.9M debitures. A friend and I was discussing the other day that he doubts that the paper many of these mortgage companies hold would be worth 10 cents on the dollar. This proves his words to be very true. This is close to 5 cents on the dollar.

    So where would I be had I not made that decision then and listened to those "experts".

    And should I loose several grand, I say "so what!" I've lost it before. I've also gained it back in no time. I am not just in domains and I am also not just in .mobi. Currently mobi represents perhaps on the upside of 17% of my domain portfolio and my domain portfolio represents perhaps 7% of my total assets. I say 7% based on my investment, not worth. A domain is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, not what I think it is worth. Plus, many banks and accountants still don't get it, even though every damn one of them have a website and domain name.

    You don't have to buy a single word I say. But also keep in mind, I am not going to buy into your notion of what a bad move this is on my part. Time will tell and time is on my side. The time for the mobile internet is now.

    And no one has still come up with just that one extension and one prefix or suffix that all must use and adhere to in order to access the mobile internet. Still waiting for someone to fill in the blank and then enforce it on a global scale.

    "Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
    Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom

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    I can't wait to see the results of this auction...

    I posted this on another board.

    My initial reaction was that 100 mobi names - some spectacular - was simply too much for the secondary market to withstand at once.

    I have thought about this a bit, and I believe it's a smart decision.

    1) MTLD has withheld thousands of names. This is still a drop in the bucket. If MTLD held 6 auctions a year of this magnitude, it would take years to distribute all their withheld names.

    2) This will create buzz beyond the existing .mobi community of secondary market buyers. PR = good news, expansion of awareness, development and adoption.

    3) My pocket book is ready to open up in response. I could see myself dropping $25,000 - $50,000 to pick up a few great mobi names. I'm actually selling a few strong .com names (progolfer.com, flightinstructor.com, etc) on sedo partially to cash-up for this opportunity. I'm not the only one.

    4) When loans.mobi hits the blocks, you don't really think that it'll just be scrubs and schlubs with a few $XX,XXX in their pockets going after it do you? I don't. If MTLD and sedo are hitting the ground on a marketing drive, they can get end-users interested.

    5) BARGAINS. I believe there will be gold in the hills. A few names, will, no doubt, take a hit due to the 100 names sold. This will generate some bargain opportunities.

    So... new investment, expansion of existing investors, incremental awareness and more.

    Good stuff.

    I like what MTLD is doing.

    AND, AT THE VERY LEAST, some of the best names will now have a landing page. That's more than they have now.

    I do not like the long-term development requirement at all.

    It will spook some potential buyers.

    If the free market will achieve a higher return for domain name holders fulfilling strict mobile development guidelines, then that domain name holder will develop accordingly.

    This is like rent control.

    Like landrush, there should be no concern by the buyer that the domain name will be taken from him/her at any point by MTLD.

    Auction - good call.
    Stipulation - bad call.

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