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    Conspiracy: Toys.mobi vs YouTube.mobi

    Interesting find:

    I was searching through sedo and spotted the domain Toys.mobi for sale. I wanted to place a bid and thought to take a look at the whois first.

    Domain Name:TOYS.MOBI
    Created On:20-Sep-2006 07:38:33 UTC
    Last Updated On:05-Jan-2007 15:32:08 UTC
    Expiration Date:20-Sep-2008 07:38:33 UTC
    Trademark Name:toys
    Trademark Country:CN
    Trademark Number:32483129
    Date Trademark Applied For:1997-09-09
    Date Trademark Registered:2001-09-11
    Sponsoring Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
    Created by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
    Last Updated by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
    Status:OK
    Registrant ID:hc665239907-cn
    Registrant Name:fangrong cheng
    Registrant Organization:shanghai xiongsheng
    Registrant Street1:shanghai longhualu2518nong47hao2ashi
    Registrant City:shanghai
    Registrant State/Province:shanghai
    Registrant Postal Code:200232
    Registrant Country:CN
    Registrant Phone:+86.02154073260
    Registrant FAX:+86.02154073112
    Registrant Email:home008@gmail.com
    Admin ID:hc665239907-cn
    Admin Name:fangrong cheng
    Admin Organization:shanghai xiongsheng
    Admin Street1:shanghai longhualu2518nong47hao2ashi
    Admin City:shanghai
    Admin State/Province:shanghai
    Admin Postal Code:200232
    Admin Country:CN
    Admin Phone:+86.02154073260
    Admin FAX:+86.02154073112
    Admin Email:home008@gamil.com
    Tech ID:hichina001-cn
    Tech Name:hichina
    Tech Organization:HiChina Web Solutions Limited
    Tech Street1:3/F., HiChina Mansion
    Tech Street2:No.27 Gulouwai Avenue
    Tech Street3ongcheng District
    Tech City:Beijing
    Tech State/Province:Beijing
    Tech Postal Code:100011
    Tech Country:CN
    Tech Phone:+86.01064242299
    Tech FAX:+86.01064258796
    Tech Email:domainadm@hichina.com
    Name serverNS11.HICHINA.COM
    Name ServerNS12.HICHINA.COM


    I rembered the whois of YouTube.mobi

    Domain Name:YOUTUBE.MOBI
    Created On:19-Sep-2006 04:44:58 UTC
    Last Updated On:05-Jan-2007 15:39:05 UTC
    Expiration Date:19-Sep-2008 04:44:58 UTC
    Trademark Name:youtube
    Trademark Country:CN
    Trademark Number:20738014
    Date Trademark Applied For:2000-01-01
    Date Trademark Registered:2002-03-05
    Sponsoring Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
    Created by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
    Last Updated by Registrar:HiChina Web Solutions (Hong Kong) Limited (420)
    Status:OK
    Registrant ID:hc579316975-cn
    Registrant Name:Qilu Tang
    Registrant Organization:tang qi lu
    Registrant Street1:Flat208 Unit2 Bld No3, Nanshanlu 222, Hangzhou, Zhejiang
    Registrant City:hangzhou
    Registrant State/Province:zhejiang
    Registrant Postal Code:310002
    Registrant Country:CN
    Registrant Phone:+86.057187062428
    Registrant FAX:+86.057187034760
    Registrant Email:tangqilu@gmail.com
    Admin ID:hc579316975-cn
    Admin Name:Qilu Tang
    Admin Organization:tang qi lu
    Admin Street1:Flat208 Unit2 Bld No3, Nanshanlu 222, Hangzhou, Zhejiang
    Admin City:hangzhou
    Admin State/Province:zhejiang
    Admin Postal Code:310002
    Admin Country:CN
    Admin Phone:+86.057187062428
    Admin FAX:+86.057187034760
    Admin Email:tangqilu@gmail.com
    Tech ID:hichina001-cn
    Tech Name:hichina
    Tech Organization:HiChina Web Solutions Limited
    Tech Street1:3/F., HiChina Mansion
    Tech Street2:No.27 Gulouwai Avenue
    Tech Street3ongcheng District
    Tech City:Beijing
    Tech State/Province:Beijing
    Tech Postal Code:100011
    Tech Country:CN
    Tech Phone:+86.01064242299
    Tech FAX:+86.01064258796
    Tech Email:domainadm@hichina.com
    Name ServerNS11.HICHINA.COM
    Name ServerNS12.HICHINA.COM


    - The TM-sunrise closed on the 22nd of September 2006. For both domains the TM holder applied only two or three days before the end of the sunrise. If you had an TM on YouTube or Toys, why would you wait until the end of the sunrise?
    - Why is it that both companies have a gmail address?
    - The applicant for Toys.mobi has to be a domainer, because this domain is for sale on sedo now. A domainer with a TM on Toys (from 1997-09-09) would probably apply in an earlier stage for this beauty.


    What have the two applicants in common:

    - both applied in the last days of the TM sunrise
    - both a gmail address
    - both from China
    - using the same registrar
    - both applied for really wanted domains within 28 hours

    This could be pure coincidence, but my opinion is that it stinks…

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    Re: Conspiracy: Toys.mobi vs YouTube.mobi

    Perhaps it's difficult for Dot Mobi to verify a TM from China ?
    'Those who stand for nothing fall for anything' - Alexander Hamilton in 1978

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