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    I'm Not seeling my .mobi for another 6-10 years.

    I made this choice from the 1st day, when i decided to invest into .mobi... that i would not sell for at least 8-10 years... i'm more interested to develop my .mobis...

    whats your plan with your list?

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    What names do you own ?

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    I hope its not WorldCup2010Tours.mobi or you're screwed ... I sold off my LLL.mobis early and 2 generics. I may only have 1 or 2 left in my portfolio just in case. Which I held out a bit longer... but what can you do huh

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    Man...I really hope you are right...I don't own any mobis...never liked them, but have a huge suspicion they will be dead in 6-8 years, simply because of the evolution of cell phones.. iPhone was first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichInCollege View Post
    they will be dead in 6-8 years, simply because of the evolution of cell phones..
    So, new technology is the death of an extension? If evolution is the death of AN extension, then it would be safe to say it will be the death for NUMEROUS extension.

    Quote Originally Posted by BATMAN View Post
    whats your plan with your list?
    develop, develop, develop
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    My thoughts on this are mixed. In 10 years .mobi could be one of the biggest flops, sometimes it's best to strike while the iron is hot. The world is frenzied about .mobi right, in 10 years there will be 10 new extensions and someone else might have the spotlight then so it's a tough call.

    For me, I would sell all of mine today for the right offer based on current market conditions. The time is right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -X- View Post
    I sold off my LLL.mobis early and 2 generics.
    You're smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichInCollege View Post
    I don't own any mobis...never liked them, but have a huge suspicion they will be dead in 6-8 years, simply because of the evolution of cell phones.. iPhone was first.
    I have a huge suspicion they will be dead much sooner than that.


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    IMO it's just like waiting for your .biz or .name to gain value but what do I know
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc View Post
    IMO it's just like waiting for your .biz or .name to gain value but what do I know
    .name? That will never happen..

    .mobi was a flop from the start. New extensions are almost like a pump and dump scam, you get everyone excited about it so that they register 100 domains at $20 each and then it doesnt go anywhere. Sure, you're going to have sales of the premium terms but they didnt even give us a chance to reg those on our own, they keep them to themselves. So they've made money on the 2,000,000+ .mobis that are reg'd plus the money off the premiums they kept and auctioned off. What do they care if they fail?

    I agree. You always have to sell when the market is right, that goes for anything. You're going to hold onto them for 10 years and then try to sell them? I think the answer will be...what is a .mobi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefeller View Post
    .mobi was a flop from the start. New extensions are almost like a pump and dump scam you get everyone excited about it so that they register 100 domains at $20 each and then it doesnt go anywhere
    Lets analyze the facts to determine if dotMobi is a flop...

    1.) When was dotMobi introduced to the public?

    .mobi was introduced in September 2006
    .tv in 1996 (11 years old)
    .info in 2001 (6 years old)
    .net in 1985 (22 years old)
    .org in 1985 (22 years old)
    .com in 1985 (22 years old)

    2.) .mobi sales

    Here is a domain sales analysis snippet by Rick Schwartz:

    "Global contenders. Their range for the year is $15,000 to $300k. Here is the BIG answer. Of the top 100 there are 28 .mobi's occupying those spots.

    .net = 43
    .mobi = 28
    .org = 16
    .info = 9

    Lastly the country codes. With the exception of two 6 figure sales, the range was $10-$85k. That also included .cc, .tv IDN and some 335 individual country codes competing for this spots. So if you just sit there and study Ron's page and FOLLOW THE MONEY, it is pretty easy to pick the finalists. You pick them from REALITY by sales not wishful thinking by me or you or anyone.

    Here are the extensions in the order of what the MARKET says by actual real world reported sales.

    .com
    .net
    .org
    .mobi
    .info

    Then .co.uk, .de, .tv, .us, idn

    http://www.dnjournal.com/ytd-sales-charts.htm

    Follow the money, look at the numbers, gauge the market, don't listen to rumors. The newest extension on the list is outperforming extensions out for many years. THAT is the reality.
    3.) Edelman Agency

    Edelman Agency is a prestigious international Advertising/PR powerhouse.

    Edelman's clients include: GE, Orange, MySpace, UPS, xBOX, Vivendi, Johnson & Johnson, The Recording Academy, AXE, Pfizer, Dove, Motorola, Oracle and plenty more.

    dotMobi is an Edelman client. Edelman is advancing and promoting the dotMobi namespace around the world. Consequently, because of Edelman's efforts, several endusers are adopting the .mobi extension.

    You are welcome to learn more about Edelman here:
    http://www.edelman.com/
    (Click on the dotMobi icon at this homepage)

    Question: Which posh Madison Avenue Ad agencies are advancing the .info, .biz, .net,.us, .org, etc. namespaces? NONE. NOBODY.

    Question: Who is meeting with CEOs lobbying for the .info, .org, .us, etc. extensions to use within their respective company branding? NONE. NOBODY

    4.) Which Fortune 1000 companies built & market .mobi sites for their Mobile Web initiatives?:

    Banking
    BofA.mobi (Bank of America)
    Deutsche-Bank.mobi
    Wachovia.mobi
    Barclays.mobi
    UnicreditGroup.mobi

    Insurance
    Ing.mobi
    StateFarm.mobi
    AXA.mobi
    Allstate.mobi

    Hotels
    Marriott.mobi
    Hilton.mobi

    Car Manufacturers
    Ferrari.mobi
    BMW.mobi
    Rolls-Royce.mobi
    FordCA.mobi (Ford Canada)

    HSM2.mobi (Disney's Highschool Musical series)

    Transportation
    Amtrak.mobi
    AAA.mobi (American Automobile Association)

    Sports
    ESPN.mobi
    NBA.mobi
    WNBA.mobi

    Magazines
    Time.mobi (Time Magazine)
    BusinessWeek.mobi
    CNNMoney.mobi

    Alcohol
    Smirnoff.mobi

    Internet
    MSN.mobi
    GoDaddy.mobi / TDNAM.mobi
    Netsol.mobi (Network Solutions)

    Technology
    Cisco.mobi

    News
    FoxNews.mobi
    ABCNews.mobi
    TBS.mobi
    AlJazeera.mobi

    Newspapers
    TheSun.mobi

    Guides
    Zagat.mobi

    Mobile Operators
    T-Mobile.mobi
    Three.mobi
    Vodafone.mobi
    TIM.mobi
    Orange.mobi
    3Next.mobi

    Mobile Manufacturers
    Nokia.mobi
    SonyEricsson.mobi

    Telecommunications
    Ericsson.mobi
    3Skype.mobi

    Weather
    Weather.mobi (The Weather Channel)

    Cities
    Helsinki.mobi

    Airlines
    SAS.mobi
    Spanair.mobi

    Clothing
    Polo.mobi
    Quikstore.mobi (Quiksilver)
    BenettonPress.mobi (United Colors of Benetton)

    Airports
    Schiphol.mobi (Amsterdam)

    5.) 2007 .mobi Sales:

    2007 Poker.mobi $150,000
    2007 Ringtones.mobi $145,000
    2007 SportsBook.mobi $ 129,800
    2007 News.mobi $110,000
    2007 Hosting.mobi $ 101,000
    2007 RealEstate.mobi $ 85,000
    2007 Stocks.mobi $ 70,000
    2007 Casinos.mobi $ 52,000
    2007 Bank.mobi $51,501
    2007 Download.mobi $ 51,500
    2007 Email.mobi $50,000
    2007 Girls.mobi $ 49,000
    2007 Currency.mobi $ 47,000
    2007 Insurance.mobi $ 42,005
    2007 Chat.mobi $ 42,000
    2007 Singles.mobi $ 41,000
    2007 Traffic.mobi $ 36,008
    2007 Books.mobi $ 33,510
    2007 Scores.mobi $33,000
    2007 Gamble.mobi $ 33,000
    2007 Buy.mobi $32,500
    2007 Free.mobi $ 31,500
    2007 PhoneNumbers.mobi $ 28,000
    2007 Podcast.mobi $25,000
    2007 Mortgages.mobi $ 25,000
    2007 Pussy.mobi $ 23,098
    2007 Pics.mobi $ 23,000
    2007 Invest.mobi $ 22,500
    2007 Pizza.mobi $ 21,000
    2007 Directions.mobi $ 19,000
    2007 Cab.mobi - $17,500
    2007 MusicVideos.mobi $ 16,500
    2007 B2B.mobi $ 13,829
    2007 BetOnline.mobi $ 13,500
    2007 Cash.mobi - $12,500

    Most of the aforementioned 2007 .mobi sales transacted via TRAFFIC and sedo sponsored Auctions have content/developement requirements -- no blank pages, no parking pages. Consequently, this will ensure that companies will develop rich content via the Mobile Web utilizing the dotMobi brand consistently across all major industries.

    dotMobi is only 13 months old. Rome wasn't built in a day, neither was Mobi. However, day by day, the MOBI brand continues to be built across the globe by talented developers (i.e. dotmobiz.mobi) & endusers (i.e. ESPN.mobi) and therefore, as the years unfold MOBI will become increasingly ubiquitous.

    dotMobi is not a flop. dotMobi is the most accomplished domain extension to emerge since the inception of .com in 1985.

    I wish everyone well in all their dotMobi pursuits.

    Michael
    Last edited by Vision; 11-28-2007 at 12:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefeller View Post
    .name? That will never happen..

    .mobi was a flop from the start. New extensions are almost like a pump and dump scam, you get everyone excited about it so that they register 100 domains at $20 each and then it doesnt go anywhere. Sure, you're going to have sales of the premium terms but they didnt even give us a chance to reg those on our own, they keep them to themselves. So they've made money on the 2,000,000+ .mobis that are reg'd plus the money off the premiums they kept and auctioned off. What do they care if they fail?

    I agree. You always have to sell when the market is right, that goes for anything. You're going to hold onto them for 10 years and then try to sell them? I think the answer will be...what is a .mobi?


    you mean new extentions like .info for example?

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    Im sure you're saying that because you spent a lot of money on them. You could make a nice little presentation for any extension, including .name. You forgot the $400,000 .mobi sale by the one and only. Don't "seel" your .mobis, but I think you guys are getting false hope.

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    .mobi is a flop to a certain percentage of domainers, I don't know whether this is a minority or a majority, but some domainers never liked it from the start. As for the real world, many businesses seem to be using .mobi for their mobile sites, and the general population doesn't care, they will use it if it is marketed to them and it's a site they want to go to. Look at last night's domain sales report at dnjournal and see what .mobi's are going for.

    If these premium .mobi auctions had flopped, and businesses weren't using .mobi on the scale they are, then yes I'd say .mobi has flopped. But that isn't the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockefeller View Post
    Im sure you're saying that because you spent a lot of money on them. You could make a nice little presentation for any extension, including .name. You forgot the $400,000 .mobi sale by the one and only. Don't "seel" your .mobis, but I think you guys are getting false hope.
    Lets everyone perform a DNJournal search with respect to this drive-by .mobi critic, Justin Godfrey (aka Rockefeller)...

    http://www.dnjournal.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/archive.htm

    hmmmmm...In 2007 Justin was involved in most/all the top .info sales.

    He is the most succesful seller of .info domains on the planet.

    Great. Justin, a hearty congratulations regarding your .info sales.

    Justin is a proven .info investor/advocate.

    However, Justin certainly does not want to see this new popular kid, MOBI, further interfere and mitigate his future 2008, 2009 .info sales.

    But, is .info necessary?

    .info is a long 4 character extension!

    .info is a pump & dump scheme, just ask Justin.

    The .info registry is just making boatloads of cash via registrations.

    Why do we have to use .info when we already have .com?
    Last edited by Vision; 11-28-2007 at 11:11 AM.
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    Blimey! You're using the same arguments against .mobi on .info, and I see the irony!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    Lets everyone perform a DNJournal search with respect to this drive-by .mobi critic, Justin Godfrey (aka Rockefeller)...

    http://www.dnjournal.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/archive.htm

    hmmmmm...In 2007 Justin was involved in most/all the top .info sales.

    He is the most succesful seller of .info domains on the planet.

    Great. Justin, a hearty congratulations regarding your .info sales.

    Justin is a proven .info investor/advocate.

    However, Justin certainly does not want to see this new popular kid, MOBI, further interfere and mitigate his future 2008, 2009 .info sales.

    But, is .info necessary?

    .info is a long 4 character extension!

    .info is a pump & dump scheme, just ask Justin.

    The .info registry is just making boatloads of cash via registrations.

    Why do we have to use .info when we already have .com?
    ...Very Interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    2007 Poker.mobi $150,000
    2007 Ringtones.mobi $145,000
    2007 SportsBook.mobi $ 129,800
    2007 News.mobi $110,000
    2007 Hosting.mobi $ 101,000
    2007 RealEstate.mobi $ 85,000
    2007 Stocks.mobi $ 70,000
    2007 Casinos.mobi $ 52,000
    2007 Bank.mobi $51,501
    2007 Download.mobi $ 51,500
    2007 Email.mobi $50,000
    2007 Girls.mobi $ 49,000
    2007 Currency.mobi $ 47,000
    2007 Insurance.mobi $ 42,005
    2007 Chat.mobi $ 42,000
    2007 Singles.mobi $ 41,000
    2007 Traffic.mobi $ 36,008
    2007 Books.mobi $ 33,510
    2007 Scores.mobi $33,000
    2007 Gamble.mobi $ 33,000
    2007 Buy.mobi $32,500
    2007 Free.mobi $ 31,500
    2007 PhoneNumbers.mobi $ 28,000
    2007 Podcast.mobi $25,000
    2007 Mortgages.mobi $ 25,000
    2007 Pussy.mobi $ 23,098
    2007 Pics.mobi $ 23,000
    2007 Invest.mobi $ 22,500
    2007 Pizza.mobi $ 21,000
    2007 Directions.mobi $ 19,000
    2007 Cab.mobi - $17,500
    2007 MusicVideos.mobi $ 16,500
    2007 B2B.mobi $ 13,829
    2007 BetOnline.mobi $ 13,500
    2007 Cash.mobi - $12,500
    I'm sure those keywords would probably sell in any new extenstion created now or in the future....at least until domainers and big biz get tired of buying all the same keywords!


    I think Steve Jobs ruined the hopes of many .mobi speculators when the iphone came out and it had a .com site on the phone, rather than .mobi

    had it been the other way around....who knows
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggedon View Post
    I think Steve Jobs ruined the hopes of many .mobi speculators when the iphone came out and it had a .com site on the phone, rather than .mobi

    had it been the other way around....who knows

    common misconception.. this was something silly that people with million dollar .mobi dreams talked about early on.

    i cant speak for everyone... but the fact that there is a shortcut button for the most common TLD ever doesnt suprise me one bit.

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