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    Arrow PCLA.com, TDMB.com & 900 domains

    Closed by the reason of PCLA.com was STOLEN now!

    WHO IS THIS GUY?

    Beware this guy alisoncraig27@hotmail.com

    Following is a current (maybe faked) whois of pcla.com so be careful to buy this domain name.
    PCLA.com was stolen now.
    After I receive the fund via PAYPAL.com,PCLA.com was pushed into the eNomCentral.com account(I made one instead of this guy).
    After he receive the domain name, he cancelled the payment of PAYPAL.com.
    I don't know how this kind of things happen in PAYPAL.
    After we receive the goods or domain names, can we cancel the payment anytime?

    (whois info of May.12.2009)
    AboutUs: pcla.com

    Registration Service Provided By: eNom, Inc.
    Contact: info2@eNom.com

    Domain name: pcla.com

    Administrative Contact:
    Individual
    Tracey Older (thesecondayofebruary@gmail.com)
    +1.254785442
    Fax:
    Two United Nations Plaza, 27th Floor,
    NY, NY 10017
    US

    Technical Contact:
    Individual
    Tracey Older (thesecondayofebruary@gmail.com)
    +1.254785442
    Fax:
    Two United Nations Plaza, 27th Floor,
    NY, NY 10017
    US

    Registrant Contact:
    Individual
    Tracey Older ()

    Fax:
    Two United Nations Plaza, 27th Floor,
    NY, NY 10017
    US

    Status: Locked

    Name servers:
    NS1.SEDOPARKING.COM
    NS2.SEDOPARKING.COM

    Creation date: 04 Dec 1999 06:22:43
    Expiration date: 04 Dec 2009 06:22:00



    (whois info of May.11.2009)
    [size]WHOIS InformationVisit AboutUs.org for more information about pcla.com
    AboutUs: pcla.com


    Registrant:
    Omer Ekinci
    Desnet Plaza Bağlar Mah. Fatih Cad. Gül Sokak No:27

    Istanbul 59427 TR



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    Administrative:
    Omer Ekinci
    Desnet Plaza Bağlar Mah. Fatih Cad. Gül Sokak No:27

    Istanbul , 59427 TR
    Phone: +90.02125451220
    Fax:



    Technical:
    Omer Ekinci
    Desnet Plaza Bağlar Mah. Fatih Cad. Gül Sokak No:27

    Istanbul , 59427 TR
    Phone: +90.02125451220
    Fax:



    nameserver:
    NS1.SEDOPARKING.COM
    NS2.SEDOPARKING.COM

    updated-date: 2008-11-08 08:40:45.000

    created-date: 1999-12-04 06:22:43.000

    registration-expiration-date: 2009-12-04 06:22:43.000

    status:
    registrar-lock
    clientDeleteProhibited

    domain: pcla.com


    Please Note: Access to eNom's Whois information is for informational purposes only. eNom makes this information available "as is," and does not guarantee its accuracy. The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of eNom's Whois information in its entirety, or a substantial portion thereof, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of eNom by accessing and using our Whois information, you agree to these terms.

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    does this person have any other email addresses??

    Which paypal email address was used by this person when you received money ??
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    "Hos�a'kal'" <umutbalonlari@gmail.com>
    alisoncraig27@hotmail.com
    thesecondayofebruary@gmail.com
    Sent by:
    brad stewart
    Buyer Email:
    bradstewart11@hotmail.com
    Transfer to:
    Dagmar Luehrig
    Buyer Email:
    DagmarL@bigfoot.com


    bradstewart11@hotmail.com
    DagmarL@bigfoot.com
    ------------------------------------
    ABOVE TWO EMAIL ADDRESSES WERE USED.
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    lol I think I was just contacted by this scammer

    he had an email address: traceyolder@hotmail.com
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    YES, I THINK HE IS EXACTLY THE SAME GUY.
    HE TOLD ME THAT HIS ID OF DNFORUM.COM is traceyolder.
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    I'm sorry to say this, but don't accept PayPal from people you don't know. It's way too unsecure with way too many scamming opportunities.


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    He contacted me through Namepros id: SteGaNoS making an offer for my CVCV.com and when I countered his offer with double the price, he kind of agreed asking for msn so that made me doubtful about him.

    But now when we were talking on msn, he agreed to escrow as well, later on rejected escrow saying he wants to pay by paypal as he dpesnt want to pay escrow fee.. I lowered my asing price saying I will bear those expenses and he agreed. As soon as I placed a request in moniker escrow for the transaction, he disappeared!! lol

    So I think accounts in question are:

    Namepros id: SteGaNo
    Email address: traceyolder@hotmail.com
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    i was so stupid at that time. The more stupid thing was i made an enomcentral.com account by myself. This guy told me to make one for him but i didn't doubt at that time. But this guy can command good english by msn. So don't trade with paypal with the person you don't know.
    Actually, i don't like paypal trade but i thought this guy was a big buyer.
    I was mad at that time.


    he likes 4 letter domain names. He told me, he is interested in my several 4 letter domain names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namebank View Post
    i was so stupid at that time. The more stupid thing was i made an enomcentral.com account by myself. This guy told me to make one for him but i didn't doubt at that time. But this guy can command good english by msn. So don't trade with paypal with the person you don't know.
    Actually, i don't like paypal trade but i thought this guy was a big buyer.
    I was mad at that time.
    Get another paypal accunt. This way you can use this one to receive funds, and second where you can xfer funds to after receiving them in the first one!!

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    HIS MSN EMAIL ADDRESS IS alisoncraig27@hotmail.com

    Interpol must investigate this intellectal property crime.

    don't do stupid things like me.

    special thanks to all.
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    Me; Green Letters Scammer: BLACK LETTERS
    alisoncraig27@hotmail.com
    Hi!
    Alison:
    Hello
    How you have been
    I found to you on DN!
    Fine, thanks.
    Alison:
    whatever this is alison, and how can I call you bro
    Yes.
    Alison:
    what is your name
    ****** Kang
    Alison:
    ok heu
    little bit difficult
    Alison:
    its sounds better than **** hehe.
    whatever.
    I have to make an ez name
    Alison:
    I am interested that your LLLL domains..
    as you know, what is bin price. I sent to mail on your box.
    what are those?
    Alison:
    tzon.com
    tkad.com
    pcla.com
    tdmb.com
    how much money each one for me ?
    BIN PRICE is USD 1,288/ one domain name
    u a responsible for escrow

    Alison님의 말:
    what about you paypal i am verified member on digitalpoint and have to +70 itrader point.
    1,288 X 4 = USD 5,152
    Alison:
    firstly i can buy one domain hehe
    what's that?
    Alison:
    pcla.com
    OK POST "SOLD"
    u prefer escrow.com or paypal?
    Alison:
    i think paypal is better / for me
    Paypal is bad for me
    How about escrow.com or
    buy DNESCROW of afternic?

    Alison:
    I can pay tdnam.com or paypal
    afternic i never used this
    but i can try.
    OK , PAYPAL
    Alison:
    any discount ?
    if you r payment cleared , I will push it into your
    eNom.com.

    No, sorry.
    it's very cheap
    Alison:
    which one is ok for you, echeck or funds
    cash
    Alison:
    ok
    wait i am trying to remember of my enom acc lol xD
    Alison:
    what is your paypal address ?
    *****@*****.COM
    My name = **********

    Alison:
    kk.
    buying only one?
    10 % discount for 10 domain names.

    Alison:
    at now yes cause i dont have some money for deal with you.
    but in future, whynot
    OK. Post Sold first. Then pay via Paypal
    Alison:
    OK.
    PCLA.com is the best one.
    Offered lots of times. U so lucky.

    Alison:
    sup ^^
    i cant find to your theared on dnforum lol.

    http://www.dnforum.com/f5/pcla-com-tdmb-com-900-domains-thread-366488.html
    Alison:
    thank you.
    I cant write a comment on your theared lol.
    why?
    Alison:
    because i am not platinum members.
    but i'll upgrade to asap
    What kind of member?
    Alison:
    I am normal member on dnforum but you can check my profile on digitalpoint dot com
    Anyway you can pay via PAYPAL.
    Alison:
    i am member holder since 2006 / 607 post +70 itrader point
    bla bla blaa..
    If you pay, I will post 'SOLD"
    Alison:
    OK!
    Pls let me know your eNom.com account.
    Alison:
    I am not sure name of enom account / i using to GoDaddy. please wait i can check to my mail for control of enom account.
    ok
    pls wait for 5 minutes. W/C

    Alison:
    kk
    I am ready. Sir!!!!!!!!!!
    Alison:
    I dont remember to enom account.
    Make one.
    www.eNomCentral.com.

    Alison:
    I cant create WTF
    wait please bro.
    ok
    Alison:
    could you create to for me bro, i am really sorry for said that.
    OK, pay first . Then I will make one for you.
    But you must give me your infos about email address,
    Name, Tel, etc.

    Alison:
    alisoncraig27@hotmail.com
    other information np hehe write to somethin' bro.
    OK, I am wating for your payment.
    Can we exchange good DN Forum profile for each other?

    Alison:
    how ?
    meanwhile i am sorry
    phone.
    which account , is WTT
    what is WTT?
    Alison:
    want to trade
    Can we exchange good DN Forum profile for each other?
    whats mean
    leave good feedback for each other.
    Alison:
    forums.digitalpoint
    if you are using it.
    your id is digitalpoint ?
    Alison님의 말:
    ahah no bro
    my id is Tracey in DN
    my id is possible in forums.digitalpoint.com
    My id is namebank in DNForum
    Alison:
    are u using to another forums ?
    No.
    Alison:
    i think digitalpoint is better than all.
    Ah , I have . Korean domain Forum for Korean domainers
    I will take a look.

    Hello?
    Are U there?
    Alison:
    are u still here
    huh ?
    Yes
    Alison:
    is it true ?
    Payment Sent To: ***********************@******.com)
    Type: Service/Other
    Amount: $1.288,00 USD
    Total Amount: $1.288,00 USD
    yes it is
    Alison:
    cant you create to one enom account for me
    cause really i cant it lol xD
    what is lol xd?
    Alison:
    laugh on line
    and lots of laugh
    lol = muahshahsahsha ehehehehehe
    etc..
    please let me know when u create one acc for me
    i am ok for payment.
    pls wait for some minutes
    I have to check paypal
    Alison:
    cant you open to enom acc.
    I can
    not eNom.com but eNomCentral.com
    eNom is a wholesaler account

    Alison:
    ok please open one acc and let me know
    after to i send to money ^^
    and after to payment u can push to domain.
    ok
    Alison:
    kk
    Did you sent the money?
    Alison:
    no
    waiting to your response
    cause i cant open to enomcentral account.
    OK, I will make one and push the domain into your eNomCentral.com.
    But I don't know why u can't open eNomCentral.com.

    It is easy
    Alison:
    I cant
    please open to one account for me / i am waiting bro
    Please wait , I will make.
    Organization Name

    let me know your organization name
    name
    address
    city
    country Tel. FAX

    Alison:
    write to somethin ^^
    Name : Alison Dagmar Luehrig
    Address: Im Kamp 42D-59427 Unna Germany
    +49 57741510
    kk
    ok <3
    city name?
    Alison:
    UNNA
    login
    logi id?

    Alison:
    id : alisoncraig
    pw : alisonunna
    postal code?
    Alison:
    59427
    so opened ?
    Now you can login.
    www.eNomcentral.com
    Alison:
    tell me paypal address ?
    *****@****.COM ?
    *****@****.COM ?

    your payment is cancelled
    I don't know why.

    Alison:
    I know cause its bank transfer, its not safe
    I will send as FUNDS
    its better for you
    am i right ^^
    I don't know
    what is FUND?

    Alison:
    balance on paypal
    cash money | not transfer to debit card
    its non refundable = funds
    is it same as cash?
    Alison:
    yes its same
    what you saw when i sent to payment
    completed or pending which one you saw on your paypal ?
    after pending it was cancelled
    Alison:
    ok.
    i am waiting
    Alison:
    yes i am talking to my partner
    for our deal about pcla
    and i found to funds for you.
    *****@*****.COM is it ?
    yes
    Alison:
    check it thank you.
    i leave to itrader point on dnforum if u want ?
    i received. usd 50 disappeared
    1,237 received
    Alison:
    kk wait i'll done.
    i'll send to $50 dont worry bro
    ****ing to premier acc comission wtf.
    ok
    Alison:
    as u know my enom acc.
    please wait
    5 minutes
    Alison:
    sure.
    i'll back 2-3mins later / WC

    and waiting to push to domain after to i leave to itrader point on dnforum
    id : alisoncraig
    ok
    PCLA.com successfully pushed as follows
    WHOIS InformationVisit AboutUs.org for more information about pcla.com
    AboutUs: pcla.com

    Registrant:
    Alison Dagmar Luehrig
    Im Kamp 42D-59427

    UNNA 59427 DE
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    Alison:
    i leaving to itrader point ^^
    lwhy u cancelled again?
    payapal
    Alison:
    not canceled
    paid 1,288 and paid -1288
    Alison:
    wait i can check
    and tell me enom id i declined to domain
    when we'll resolve to problem
    what are u doing now?
    Alison:
    i loging to paypal
    and enomcentral
    YOU NOW HAVE THE DOMAIN PCLA.COM.
    Alison:
    tell me enom id bro
    yes i canceled to domain transfer
    if you tell me enom id
    re-push to domain on your account ^^
    i hate this ****ing paypal " Your account access is limited. Learn how to remove this limitation. " WTF
    CAN'T PUSH AGAIN WITHIN 7 DAYS
    Alison:
    i am so sorry so
    i can tell to my id and pw
    really i am sorry..
    dont think about me " scammer .. "
    and please start to escrow.com translaction
    pfff..
    OK LET ME KNOW YOUR ID AND PW
    Alison:
    2/05/2009 PP-703-184-628 Inquiry by PayPal

    Temporary Hold
    ********** Trading Co., Ltd. -$1,288.00 USD 12/05/2009 Awaiting other party's response
    paypal held to our money
    i THINK YOU ARE NOT DOING THE RIGHT THINGS
    WHY THIS MESS HAPPENS?

    Alison:
    are u there ?
    yes
    pay immediately

    Alison:
    tell me bank details
    i can send to your banka ccount
    pay by paypal


    MSN WITH THIS SCAMMER ENDED AND HEARD NO NEWS FROM THIS GUY.

    this scammer already changed enomcentral.com password.

    this scammer changed whois info of enomcentral.com three times already.
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    I found this guy at DNForum.com with the help of the member of DNForum.com.
    The current whois of PCLA.com is exactly same as the whois of FUJE.com.
    This guy is selling FUJE.com at DNFORUM now and his id of DNFORUM is s2006 .
    He is selling fuje.com at the following thread of DNFORUM.
    http://www.dnforum.com/f529/fuje-com...ad-370793.html

    Stolen Domain PCLA.com Link
    http://www.dnforum.com/f417/pcla-com...ml#post1707231
    Please advice me the next step.

    Whois of FUJE.com.

    FUJE.COM



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    Hi there,

    I just want to inform you thatI sold the domain to Tracy Older.

    I wish you told me this earlier I sold the domain to Tracy Older just a day ago, and she is not only opened a Paypal dispute she is refusing to release the funds to pay me.

    I believe she is a con artist, I am trying my best to get a refund by Paypal and get my domain Fuje.com back.

    Thanks
    Si
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    Hi there,

    I wish you told me this earlier I sold the domain to Tracy Older just a day ago, and she is not only opened a Paypal dispute she is refusing to release the funds to pay me.

    I believe she is a con artist, I am trying my best to get a refund by Paypal and get my domain Fuje.com back.

    Thanks
    Si

    Here is the link to the email from her:-

    http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1461/12372126.jpg
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    Tracey Older is a real scammer, according to your answer.
    And s2006 is not Tracey Older, right?
    I also reported this to sedo.com and they will inform me more details about you
    and the current owner of Fuje.com.
    s2006, are you the person who listed fuje.com at sedo.com now?
    Please let me know.
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    [QUOTE=loudbeats.com;1716982]Get another paypal accunt. This way you can use this one to receive funds, and second where you can xfer funds to after receiving them in the first one!!

    This is interesting. Does it work? What does paypal do on a reverse when the account has no money? Paypal could try to pull it from your checking or any backup credit card...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksinclair View Post
    This is interesting. Does it work? What does paypal do on a reverse when the account has no money? Paypal could try to pull it from your checking or any backup credit card...?

    Definitely interesting, I have secondary account verified and linked with a minor credit card which never has more then $20-$30 available as credit. So if Paypal will try to recover reversed funds , they will get nothing and my account balance will go negative, however I will save my money "which some scammer will triy to scam me off" by filing dispute with paypal because I have already xferred those funds to my primary paypal account, very much legal and is under my brothers name.

    P.S. This type of method is suggested and should only be used for legitimate purposes and dont ever try to scam any one!!
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    sorry to hear this but IMO not a smart way of doing this deal IMO.. $1300 paypal from someone you don't know....

    I guess you'll think twice now before doing it again.

    I'd start a paypal dispute on the cancelled payment and get on the phone with their customer service.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeats.com View Post
    Definitely interesting, I have secondary account verified and linked with a minor credit card which never has more then $20-$30 available as credit. So if Paypal will try to recover reversed funds , they will get nothing and my account balance will go negative, however I will save my money "which some scammer will triy to scam me off" by filing dispute with paypal because I have already xferred those funds to my primary paypal account, very much legal and is under my brothers name.

    P.S. This type of method is suggested and should only be used for legitimate purposes and dont ever try to scam any one!!
    I think that this is not good method because my friend had been scamed by someone and his paypal had negative balance, and now he is getting letters from debt collection agency...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNB View Post
    I think that this is not good method because my friend had been scamed by someone and his paypal had negative balance, and now he is getting letters from debt collection agency...
    Interesting point, never knew Paypal started hiring Collection Agents!! However as far as I know, they can only email or call seeking you do something about negative balance, however if you were right and had used your account for legitimate purposes Paypal cant force you to pay!

    Paypal cant do anything when users file unauthorized transaction claims as they go by the book and do what is said in their policies or terms of use even if you were being scammed!! But what I've recommend above method is to save your A*S from such scammers by quickly switching funds from your secondary account to primary account and stay in peace!!

    Method is working PERFECTLY for me, so I thought I had share since alot of fellow members/users are being scammed by few dirtbags out there :(
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