- Unresolved Namess Sale -

[amcdonald]

whois history for another domain shows

Patrick Norman
142 Larch Street
Sudbury
Ontario
P3C 1X2
CA
+1.7059290535

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

I have a busy afternoon but maybe someone can get ahold of 9MM ( Norman ) he apparently has a phone ! I know you Jayspot will need this info. Not sure how accurate it is but his email is correct and he uses it on msn.

9MM is...
patrick norman
142 larch street
sudbury, ontario p3c3g5
Canada

+1 7059290555

[theinvestor]

I'd be glad to give him a few calls if need be
It's almost local ha ha! Although, i think it's past his bedtime right now.

[liberator]

Something that caught my eye was this statement 9MM made in the kko sales thread:

Very suspicious right now as a bank wire IS an e-mail transfer, unless your willing to push name first I am not too confident with even sending an e-mail transfer. I have a friend who is willing to send it for me cause he owes me money and he'd take it off it but I need to know your legit.

You do accept bank wire, but you want over $1, 000 which is dumb, bank wire is INSTANT and FREE of charge.

Wonder if thats the same friend that received the 5k payment...

[Restecpa]

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

lol your right mine went5 broad too. Oh well people can add sudbury to the search bar.

Actually, here it is: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...366,-80.991494

[calif.bob]

It's been about 24-hours and 9MM should be checking in sometime soon.

Can someone leave the light on for him?

When I was sixteen, I was busy shredding my neighbors lawn on my BMX Mongoose bike and listening to AC/DC Back in Black.

Boy how times have changed!

[Devil Dog]

Batter = domainers, Catcher = hackers, hijackers, lowlifes, etc.

[Mr. Deleted]

When I was sixteen, I was busy shredding my neighbors lawn on my BMX Mongoose bike and listening to AC/DC Back in Black.

when i was 16 i ran away from home.

[Jacksplat]

Googles satellite images are years old. Could look different now.

I was in Sudbury on monday, I'll be there anytime between this monday to three weeks from now. If there's no resolve to this when I'm there I'll update locale and any other pertinent info if it's there to grab.

For the record: I havent taken a loss here, and am not being intrusive. I will only extend myself within the boundries of public information.

[theinvestor]

Take some pictures for us of the house. Maybe post here later ...

[Jacksplat]

Originally Posted by theinvestor

Take some pictures for us of the house. Maybe post here later ...

That would be intrusive !!

[Acro]

I'm sure that things have taken their proper course and hopefully the perpetrator(s) will face justice soon.

The reason I urged for the barrage of comments to end yesterday, was because I take signs, statements and acts of attempting to harm oneself very seriously. In two separate incidents, I lost a friend and saved a friend's life. I learned from the first one - the loss - to consider every statement of self-inflicted harm as true, regardless of the circumstances. In the second incident, I put my knowledge to good use and contacted the police for a friend who was a few thousand miles away. Her life was spared because I didn't take her statements as a joke (as her other friends did).

I believe in karma and kismet. Look these words up.

[Restecpa]

I did my homework and broadened my search...

Here's an old whois record for DEATHSENTENCE.INFO, a domain which has since this whois data has been taken apparently changed hands (been sold I guess) and is now in possession of the NamePros.com. A quick search reveals that it was once for sale by Constantin at the namepros forum (his sale threads date from October 2006 to September 2007). No sales are listed there, so I first assumed it was a private sale to 9mm, seeing how already on 12-12-2007, he is the one listing it for sale, but then noticed the 11-Dec-2007 registration date, so I guess he caught it on a drop (and registered through the Namepros, which admin contact suggests). Seeing though how it's now supposedly owned by the Namepros.com them self (while it hasn't dropped in the mean time) I can only assume they bought it from 9mm after that, although I couldn't find any record of the sale on their forum.

Pay attention to what's in bold.

OLD WHOIS (believed to be taken sometime between 11-14 Dec 2007):

Domain ID:D22771211-LRMS
Domain Name:DEATHSENTENCE.INFO
Created On:11-Dec-2007 22:01:15 UTC
Expiration Date:11-Dec-2008 22:01:15 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R126-LRMS)
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:53405B9ACB65F0E1
Registrant Name:Tracy Wilder
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street1:142 Larch Street
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Sudbury
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:p3c3c5
Registrant Country:CA
Registrant Phone:+1.17059290555
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:article.writer@hotmail.com
Admin ID:CF92D55ABFBB8531
Admin Name:Domain Administrator
Admin Organization:NamePros.com
Admin Street1:P.O. Box 55
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Pinole
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:94564
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.8778464695
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:whois@namepros.com
Billing ID:53405B9ACB65F0E1
Billing Name:Tracy Wilder
Billing Organization:
Billing Street1:142 Larch Street
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:Sudbury
Billing State/Province:
Billing Postal Code:p3c3c5
Billing Country:CA
Billing Phone:+1.17059290555
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email:article.writer@hotmail.com
Tech ID:CF92D55ABFBB8531
Tech Name:Domain Administrator
Tech Organization:NamePros.com
Tech Street1:P.O. Box 55
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Pinole
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:94564
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.8778464695
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:whois@namepros.com
Name Server:DNS1.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS2.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS3.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS4.NAME-SERVICES.COM
Name Server:DNS5.NAME-SERVICES.COM

Latest WHOIS (Namepros.com related) can be found here: http://www.enom.com/domains/whois.as...=45&submit.y=9

Now check Reeces blog here: http://4letternoob.wordpress.com/200...lllcom-parking. Well what do you know... Not only do the addresses match, but so does the email (article.writer@hotmail.com). What is left to figure out now is who is Tracy Wilder?

And there is more: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...56&postcount=5 so you guys might want to check out these emails too: article.writer@hotmail.com, The.dev.angel@hotmail.com and articles@live.ca

At some point 9mm claimed to have over 440 LLLL.COMs available for sale. That's at least what he claimed to be selling on December 27, 2007 and again on January 5, 2008 (he was in a hurry too), though based on Reeces Blog post about 9mm (http://4letternoob.wordpress.com/200...lcoms-brokered) he might have been just "brokering" them (whether the actual owners knew anything about it is another question). Anyway, Here's yet another email to be added to the watch list: freestyler@live.ca

So is there still anybody here who thinks we was in this (domain related frauds) only since the last week or so?

Anyway, I'll look into it some more, in the meantime I just thought I'd give you some more info to chew on...

Hopefully everybody gets their money back soon.

[tekz999]

The tags in here is so funny =.=

[buysellfast]

Restecpa, has shed some very very interesting facts abt 9mm directly implicated for another scam on http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showp...56&postcount=5

Shows the mods on this forums, banned him before, released his account, only for him to continue and create a bigger mess...

[MediaHound]

Originally Posted by calif.bob

It's been about 24-hours and 9MM should be checking in sometime soon.

Can someone leave the light on for him?

We are.

[spidergoat]

one of the numbers:

705-929-0535

is the fax # of a Justin Ward of Sudbury.

juz(@)unitz.ca

could be faked, but someone might want to let him know ...

[whitebark]

I can say this - I worked in a jail right here in Canada. I've personally locked the cell door on punks as young or younger than 16 for stealing much less than the $ amounts being bandied about here. I wouldn't be surprised if he was raised to adult court and sentenced as such anyways.

The Internet is sure like the wild-west at times. But good thing there are lots of good sheriffs on duty!

[EG.domains]

Originally Posted by Restecpa

I did my homework and broadened my search...

....

Your research helped me so much.

- 9MM didn't know much about domaining or at least GoDaddy push until 1 May 2007 according to this post

- He may be 19/20 years old according to these post

- His family is not that poor (as he stated before) according to this post

- He used to be an *** according to this post "Convince my mom to loan me $3,000 and you will win $25!"

- He is a losing gambler using e-gold according to these posts # # #

- His e-gold number is 4365112 according to this post

- He mention his bank "TD Bank" when he was selling $5000 e-gold for bank wire.

- He was buying, selling, exchanging e-gold & MB in big amounts. One of these times he was buying e-gold for $13,400 Paypal / $2,000 cash (bank wire) / $3,100 moneybookers

- In this post i found a domain which still under his email writer@live.ca .. unusually.org

Registrant Name:Benefit Lawrence
Registrant Street1:222 Legross Road
Registrant City:Barrie
Registrant State/Province:Ontario
Registrant Postal Code:p1g5h5
Registrant Country:CA
Registrant Phone:+1.7059294444
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email: writer@live.ca

I hope this will help in anyway.