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**sashas** · 03-10-2008, 10:38 AM

Wow man...how the hell did I miss this thread? There's too much beneath the surface here, we're just looking at the tip of the iceberg.

I've followed 9MM's posts ever since he's come here. Remember those blatantly "stolen" names being offered here a little while back (names owned by Sony, etc. - like 007.com)? 9MM was all over the place then too, said he'd been communicating with the scammer to "bring him to justice"

I find it very fishy that a 16 year old can form such elaborate fake identities, cover his traces so conveniently. Thats just too smart and criminal minded.

Like someone said, the internet is like the wild west. Easy money is a big lure, and scamming people is the most convenient way of going about this. No one appreciates a good hard day's work.

I remember a line from somewhere (I think it was Alan Moore's Watchmen), that shit happens when people want to spend hard money without a hard day's work.

**** this man...only makes me angry and sad.

**klklinc** · 03-10-2008, 10:50 AM

Not sure if this guy is connected to 9MM but does the name (removed) ring a bell with anyone?

**Rockefeller** · 03-10-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by domain newbie

guys~ please consider giving 9mm a chance ~ the jail time would ruin his life forever,

that was a stupid mistake

The problem is that these "kids" make these "small" mistakes and we're the ones that pay for it. This isn't smoking in the boys room at school, this is 6 figure theft.....brats.

**calif.bob** · 03-10-2008, 12:01 PM

Domain Newbie wrote:

Guy~ please consider giving 9mm a chance ~ the jail time would ruin his life forever,

that was a stupid mistake"
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Yes, what 9MM did was a stupid mistake.

Yes, aiding and conspiring in the sale of these stolen domains is also a stupid mistake.

Using multiple names, addresses, email addresses and phone numbers is also a deceitful mistake.

Creating PayPal accounts under fake names is also a stupid mistake.

Violating terms of service (PayPal, ICANN, etc..) when 9MM was underage and knowingly entered false information into the agreement forms is also a mistake.

The list is a lot longer than this, but I think you get the point. How many more mistakes should we just overlook and sweep under the carpet?

The fact that 9MM went to so many lengths to hide his identity from so many people for so long clearly shows Investigators, Prosecutors & potential jury's that he knew exactly what he was doing the whole time.

This so-called 16 year old kid apparently had enough help - but barely enough resources - to pull off one of the biggest domain scams in recent memory.

I believe that everyone is to remain innocent until proven guilty (yes, even Canadians), but with the facts piling up against 9MM, it seems a little hard to believe anything that he has brought to the table so far.

Just my $0.02

CB

**TheLegendaryJP** · 03-10-2008, 12:04 PM

I have confirmation of at LEAST 2 more indenties and their bank account info and home address. Now is it people close to him or peoples identies he made up I have no idea yet it would be based on his explination which as we know is worthless. These were seperate deals he was paid by via wire into 2 different bank accounts and names. There is also a third deal via paypal to a different addy. This " kid " is busy. I will keep everyone updated.

**theinvestor** · 03-10-2008, 12:20 PM

I think maybe www.rapleaf.com could be helpful here. It is an online reputation where you can search by email address and it will send you information.

Hope this helps.

**Rockefeller** · 03-10-2008, 12:30 PM

I just spent 2 hours of my life reading this thread.

**PREDATOR** · 03-10-2008, 12:43 PM

**Kamloops** · 03-10-2008, 12:51 PM

Wow - How did I miss this thread.
Jayspot - I feel for you.

9mm - you will get what you deserve. You screwed up and got caught and now are trying to cover your A$$ making up crap.

Mods - Why is 9mm not banned from here?

**jasdon11** · 03-10-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockefeller

I just spent 2 hours of my life reading this thread.

Here's the potted version;

9mm
scum
stolen names
thief ring
canada
iran
multiple accounts
scum
16 yo
older
$100,000+
twat pants
LLLL.coms
kids
scum
lost

If I missed anything, feel free to add.

**Johnn** · 03-10-2008, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamloops

Wow - How did I miss this thread.
Jayspot - I feel for you.

9mm - you will get what you deserve. You screwed up and got caught and now are trying to cover your A$$ making up crap.

Mods - Why is 9mm not banned from here?

We will take care of him when the issue is resolved.

**Kamloops** · 03-10-2008, 01:13 PM

Well they wont have to go far to arrest 9mm!

**TheLegendaryJP** · 03-10-2008, 01:50 PM

Ok serious again... here are two more bits of info. These two names were used to receive funds for names 9MM sold, look familiar to anyone. They were given by 9MM to receive payment. As the his story goes one is a relative. More research needed so the more that can help the better. This kid sure knows how to use people.

Onderwerp:
David Williams
Opmerking:
---.net - payment for 9MM on DNF
Verzendadres:
David Williams
PO Box 73
Goodna Queensland 4300
Australië

Second is...

Receiving Beneficiary (full names on account): Karen Nicholson

BMO Account:XXXXXXXXXXX

Account #: XXXX-XXX

Transit #: 21573

Bank Institution # (Bank ID): 001

Physical Address: 311 charette

Chelmsford, on P0M 1L0

**amcdonald** · 03-10-2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamloops

Mods - Why is 9mm not banned from here?

It probably won't matter, Im willing to bet he is already posting under another alias, even in this thread!

**gingeman** · 03-10-2008, 02:03 PM

9mm was clearly a POS from the moment he came on to this forum, involved in dodgy stolen name deals, making personal attacks on a large number of members. I protested at his inclusion on this forum several times. He deserves everything he gets. My only question is after he broke so many forum rules the first time, why was he allowed back so soon after? (like a matter of days) I recently read a thread here how the mods are tightening up on forum behaviour, yet the fact he wormed his way back directly contravenes this.
I understand it is difficult making these calls, but I honestly can't see a single reason why he should have been allowed back.

I said it in the previous thread before he was banned last time (after he personally attacked me and other members), but when under 16's are practically unaccountable for their actions in situations like this, there really has to be some sort of feature to let members here know that they are dealing with a minor.
I am not saying that minor's are any more likely to be scumbags than a 60 year old, but if the law doesn't extend to them, other members should be made aware before entering into transactions...

on a side note JP you have proved a true asset to this community once again. If only there were more members dedicating themselves to helping others, instead of the scum being hunted now.

**Devil Dog** · 03-10-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amcdonald

It probably won't matter, Im willing to bet he is already posting under another alias, even in this thread!

Doubt it, I think by now, there have been multiple crapping of one's trousers by this individual.

**RichInCollege** · 03-10-2008, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil Dog

Doubt it, I think by now, there have been multiple crapping of one's trousers by this individual.

**tinner666** · 03-10-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingeman

I am not saying that minor's are any more likely to be scumbags than a 60 year old, but if the law doesn't extend to them, other members should be made aware before entering into transactions...

Ditto from Me. At least let us know.

Quote:

on a side note JP you have proved a true asset to this community once again. If only there were more members dedicating themselves to helping others, instead of the scum being hunted now.

Now, if by pm or otherwise, some advice and links to free tools to help other help JP and the forum(s) so we don't have to wait on his results.
Yeah, I'm new, but I feel as if I have an interest here too.

**pcproffenno** · 03-10-2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

Ok serious again... here are two more bits of info. These two names were used to receive funds for names 9MM sold, look familiar to anyone. They were given by 9MM to receive payment. As the his story goes one is a relative. More research needed so the more that can help the better. This kid sure knows how to use people.

Onderwerp:
David Williams
Opmerking:
---.net - payment for 9MM on DNF
Verzendadres:
David Williams
PO Box 73
Goodna Queensland 4300
Australië

Wow .. Man ..

I received an offer for one of my LLLL.com's a couple of days ago, notice the name. I have X'ed out some personal details for buyer's protection (in case it isn't 9MM) :

Quote:

Originally Posted by email

Hi

I noticed that you are the owner of XXXX.com. I am currently looking to buy these type of domains and am willing to offer you $400 US if you wish to sell. I can provide an instant, hassle free payment.

If you have any questions or wish to proceed with this sale please feel free to contact me at any time.

Best regards
David Williams
XXXXXXX
Goodna Qld XXXX
AUSTRALIA
Ph: +617 3294 XXXX
Fax: +617 3036 XXXX
Email: david@rhXX.com

Added info:

I had a look at the e-mail header and I tracerouted the hostname that the e-mail was sent from and it actually resolved to an Australian ISP ( internode.on.net ) .

**TheLegendaryJP** · 03-10-2008, 02:49 PM